MAGA - describe when America was “Great”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll bite. Broadly, I'd take anytime before early 2000s (I distinctly view forever wars that started after 9/11 as NOT great) but in particular, 1960s- technical innovation, rigorous schools, low crime, civil rights, nuclear family still intact, low cost of living, cheap college. Very much admire President Kennedy and what he wanted for this country.

That’s a very selective look back at a decade that witnessed an unpopular war that tore the country apart, political assasinations, racially motivated attacks against black people including the bombing of a church that killed children, when women couldn’t open up credit card accounts by themselves, and casual racism was acceptable pretty much everywhere, never mind the deeper racism of legal segregation that wasn’t overturned until later in the decade.

The 60s had great music and also it was an inspirational time of reckoning with our bigotry and misogyny as well as other faults of a nation that didn’t live up to its promise. But I doubt most women or people of color would ever want to return to that decade. Or even the young men who were called up to serve in a horrible conflict thousands of miles away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1950s through the 1980s.

For white men. For sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Asking MAGAs honestly - please describe when America was “great” and what you want “again”. Thank you.

1980’s. Silicon Valley was crating innovation without own children

Business would hire US citizens and train them

College grads could find entry leve jobs and afford a house in 5 years of saving

It was immoral to fire someone and replace them with cheap temporary foreign worker

NP
Politics aside I think this is the first time I've ever heard anyone look back at the 1980s fondly.

Do you associate in any way with actual humans that were alive at that time? Or do you spend all your time grinding your teeth about politics and reading the internet?

80s were fun! And race relations were great then as reflected by appreciative pop culture. America was a big hug. The only thing we had to fear were the Ruskies, and yes, that was scary but it united us .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'll bite. Broadly, I'd take anytime before early 2000s (I distinctly view forever wars that started after 9/11 as NOT great) but in particular, 1960s- technical innovation, rigorous schools, low crime, civil rights, nuclear family still intact, low cost of living, cheap college. Very much admire President Kennedy and what he wanted for this country.

That’s a very selective look back at a decade that witnessed an unpopular war that tore the country apart, political assasinations, racially motivated attacks against black people including the bombing of a church that killed children, when women couldn’t open up credit card accounts by themselves, and casual racism was acceptable pretty much everywhere, never mind the deeper racism of legal segregation that wasn’t overturned until later in the decade.

The 60s had great music and also it was an inspirational time of reckoning with our bigotry and misogyny as well as other faults of a nation that didn’t live up to its promise. But I doubt most women or people of color would ever want to return to that decade. Or even the young men who were called up to serve in a horrible conflict thousands of miles away.

Thank you for articulating this better than I could. Rose-colored glasses indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll bite. Broadly, I'd take anytime before early 2000s (I distinctly view forever wars that started after 9/11 as NOT great) but in particular, 1960s- technical innovation, rigorous schools, low crime, civil rights, nuclear family still intact, low cost of living, cheap college. Very much admire President Kennedy and what he wanted for this country.

Did you forget the turmoil of the mid to late 1960's, the US engaged in Vietnam, two Kennedy assassinations that changed the course of history and the peak of the cold war and the ongoing fight for Civil rights, women's rights and worker rights? That is actually the condition reflected in the current tension between the parties that they are still fighting. The GOP wants to turn the clock back to before those wins, not codify them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before the neocons took over in 2001. 1980s Reagan era-1990s Clinton era were a peak for America.

Trump was right. The best thing he is doing is kicking the Cheneys, Bushes, Wolfowitzes, and the rest of the chicken hawks out of the Republican Party and giving them an unceremonious exit.

Reagan set the clock back for racial equality by decades and destroyed the outlook for the US Economy by implementing "voo doo economics" and setting us on the path we are on, rather than actually reaping the peace dividend from the Cold War that he sort of won.

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Anonymous wrote:Asking MAGAs honestly - please describe when America was “great” and what you want “again”. Thank you.

1980’s. Silicon Valley was crating innovation without own children

Business would hire US citizens and train them

College grads could find entry leve jobs and afford a house in 5 years of saving

It was immoral to fire someone and replace them with cheap temporary foreign worker

NP
Politics aside I think this is the first time I've ever heard anyone look back at the 1980s fondly.

Do you associate in any way with actual humans that were alive at that time? Or do you spend all your time grinding your teeth about politics and reading the internet?

80s were fun! And race relations were great then as reflected by appreciative pop culture. America was a big hug. The only thing we had to fear were the Ruskies, and yes, that was scary but it united us .

Race relations were great? Have you rewatched some of your favorite movies from that time to see the gross stereotypes still in play? Long Duk Dong anyone??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Before the neocons took over in 2001. 1980s Reagan era-1990s Clinton era were a peak for America.

Trump was right. The best thing he is doing is kicking the Cheneys, Bushes, Wolfowitzes, and the rest of the chicken hawks out of the Republican Party and giving them an unceremonious exit.

That is fine - the democrats don't want them either, but he is also setting racial and gender equality back to the 1950's or earlier.

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Anonymous wrote:Asking MAGAs honestly - please describe when America was “great” and what you want “again”. Thank you.

1980’s. Silicon Valley was crating innovation without own children

Business would hire US citizens and train them

College grads could find entry leve jobs and afford a house in 5 years of saving

It was immoral to fire someone and replace them with cheap temporary foreign worker

NP
Politics aside I think this is the first time I've ever heard anyone look back at the 1980s fondly.

Do you associate in any way with actual humans that were alive at that time? Or do you spend all your time grinding your teeth about politics and reading the internet?

80s were fun! And race relations were great then as reflected by appreciative pop culture. America was a big hug. The only thing we had to fear were the Ruskies, and yes, that was scary but it united us .

“Welfare queen” — yeah tell us more about how great race relations were back in the 80’s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"When them thar ______ knew their place."

They'll lie and say that's not it, but that's it.

Trump probably has more black, Japanese, Arab, Latino, and Jewish friends than you ever had and people of all these races rented rooms at Trump Tower . He’s a New Yorker but keep on, bro.

Trump is right that the wars and political correctness destroyed the US

Trump literally has no friends. He is 100% transactional, so any "friends" he has are people paying him for something, most recently classified US secrets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the last time:
9/14/2001 when W united the country with a bullhorn. It did get highly partisan after this and has progressively gotten worse to this day because of morons in both parties.
It shouldn't take a terrorist attack for this sentiment and patriotism to happen more frequently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkvsjOEzhzQ

W didn't unite the country. An attack on our ground united the country, W was president, but he didn't do anything any other president, other than perhaps Trump, would have done. It got worse because we invaded Iraq for no reason and then the Tea Party carried forward Newt Gingrich's social attacks on US citizens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Asking MAGAs honestly - please describe when America was “great” and what you want “again”. Thank you.

1980’s. Silicon Valley was crating innovation without own children

Business would hire US citizens and train them

College grads could find entry leve jobs and afford a house in 5 years of saving

It was immoral to fire someone and replace them with cheap temporary foreign worker

So what policies are Trump proposing to get us there? Because tariffs and deporting migrant workers won't.

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Anonymous wrote:Asking MAGAs honestly - please describe when America was “great” and what you want “again”. Thank you.

1980’s. Silicon Valley was crating innovation without own children

Business would hire US citizens and train them

College grads could find entry leve jobs and afford a house in 5 years of saving

It was immoral to fire someone and replace them with cheap temporary foreign worker

NP
Politics aside I think this is the first time I've ever heard anyone look back at the 1980s fondly.

Do you associate in any way with actual humans that were alive at that time? Or do you spend all your time grinding your teeth about politics and reading the internet?

80s were fun! And race relations were great then as reflected by appreciative pop culture. America was a big hug. The only thing we had to fear were the Ruskies, and yes, that was scary but it united us .

Back in the 80’s interracial marriage was still considered scandalous among my white midwestern Catholic community and when a relative married a black man there were family members who refused to go to the wedding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1950s through the 1980s.

So you think the 1950's were good for non whites in the US then?
Do you think women were equal then?
Do you know what the tax rates were in the 1950's-1980?
Do you know how much the Dow grew in the late 1950's to early 1970's?

If you think that post war era was so great, you are looking at it through a very narrow lens.

[Anonymous]

The more important question is how Trump supporters think he’s going to take them back to that time when America was “great.” He didn’t do it in his first term. What makes them think he’ll do it in a second one? Like, do you think he has magical powers?