NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

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Anonymous wrote:The country and the media are both nuts. Biden dropping out should not even be a talking point.

The media should be whining for Trump to drop out.

All this to sell advertising.


+1. Their ratings and clicks were in the basement and all of a sudden all this drama and hysteria. So predictable.
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Anonymous wrote:It will be a huge mess, and the ballots in some states may not be able to be changed. But it needs to happen.

Biden may release his delegates to Harris or he may release them generally to have an open or semi-open conference.


I don't believe that ballots are an issue. The Democrats don't have an official candidate yet so what would be on the ballots at this point?


Heritage Foundation has identified potential issues
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heritage-working-election-legal-challenges-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination
Heritage points out that many states — including swing states such as Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin — might not allow a replacement on the ballot.

Wisconsin does not allow a candidate's name to be withdrawn from the ballot except due to death. Nevada allows changes to its ballot up until 5:00pm on the fourth Friday of June in the election year — it also allows special consideration for if nominees die or are determined to be mentally unable to proceed.

Georgia would allow Biden to withdraw up to 60 days before the election. If Biden withdraws afterward, his name would remain on the ballot but votes for him would be discarded.



Which is why the right and the media created this mess. If even one of these states follows through on not allowing the dem candidate, Trump will win.


lol the right created Biden’s debacle of a debate?
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It will be a huge mess, and the ballots in some states may not be able to be changed. But it needs to happen.

Biden may release his delegates to Harris or he may release them generally to have an open or semi-open conference.


I don't believe that ballots are an issue. The Democrats don't have an official candidate yet so what would be on the ballots at this point?


Heritage Foundation has identified potential issues
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heritage-working-election-legal-challenges-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination
Heritage points out that many states — including swing states such as Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin — might not allow a replacement on the ballot.

Wisconsin does not allow a candidate's name to be withdrawn from the ballot except due to death. Nevada allows changes to its ballot up until 5:00pm on the fourth Friday of June in the election year — it also allows special consideration for if nominees die or are determined to be mentally unable to proceed.

Georgia would allow Biden to withdraw up to 60 days before the election. If Biden withdraws afterward, his name would remain on the ballot but votes for him would be discarded.



Which is why the right and the media created this mess. If even one of these states follows through on not allowing the dem candidate, Trump will win.


I don’t think Pelosi and Schumer care about Donald “Jeb Bush” Trump winning, per se, I think they’re worried about Trump carrying down ticket GOP clown show and taking the house and senate.
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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


No, and even if that were the case, just because the other guy is feeble or senile, doesn't mean you should be OK with your candidate being feeble or senile. The reality is that Biden is much more physically diminished than Trump. Mentally, they're both in decline, but in different ways. And from a moral perspective, Biden is well and Trump has always been pathological.

Biden's time is over. Harris will do a great job.



Harris is less qualified to lead than Biden right now. And she's less likely to win.


She is more qualified than Vance and probably more qualified than Trump, who STILL doesn't understand how NATO works.
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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?


Yes, and fairly easily.


But Americans are brutal to female leaders.


Yes but times have changed and she is running against a sketchy guy.


She polls behind Trump now and hasn’t even been subject to an opposition campaign yet.


She polls favorably to Trump and "generic Dem" other than Biden crushes Trump
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Genuine question:

If he very soon drops out of the race due to medical issues, how then can he still be fit to remain president for the next six months?

This is so irregular. What happens now?


If he drops out of the race, he will finish out his term. He will simply say that he is passing the torch and is busy managing the economy, NATO/Ukraine, Gaza etc. and will focus on doing the job he was elected to do.
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It will be a huge mess, and the ballots in some states may not be able to be changed. But it needs to happen.

Biden may release his delegates to Harris or he may release them generally to have an open or semi-open conference.


I don't believe that ballots are an issue. The Democrats don't have an official candidate yet so what would be on the ballots at this point?


Heritage Foundation has identified potential issues
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/heritage-working-election-legal-challenges-case-biden-pulled-from-dnc-nomination
Heritage points out that many states — including swing states such as Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin — might not allow a replacement on the ballot.

Wisconsin does not allow a candidate's name to be withdrawn from the ballot except due to death. Nevada allows changes to its ballot up until 5:00pm on the fourth Friday of June in the election year — it also allows special consideration for if nominees die or are determined to be mentally unable to proceed.

Georgia would allow Biden to withdraw up to 60 days before the election. If Biden withdraws afterward, his name would remain on the ballot but votes for him would be discarded.



Which is why the right and the media created this mess. If even one of these states follows through on not allowing the dem candidate, Trump will win.


lol the right created Biden’s debacle of a debate?

+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They will need to do a new primary


No, they won't.

Harris will have the mantle as he would if Biden hadn't been able to finish a second term. She will pick a VP and they will go on to win.
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Anonymous wrote:This seems very unfair. He's no more feeble or senile than Trump, and he at least has sane, smart advisors. I understand why this is necessary, but it feels like the the bad guys are winning.


No, and even if that were the case, just because the other guy is feeble or senile, doesn't mean you should be OK with your candidate being feeble or senile. The reality is that Biden is much more physically diminished than Trump. Mentally, they're both in decline, but in different ways. And from a moral perspective, Biden is well and Trump has always been pathological.

Biden's time is over. Harris will do a great job.



Harris is less qualified to lead than Biden right now. And she's less likely to win.

She’s more qualified than Trump.


So was Hilary.


There's more to getting elected than just being brainy. You need to be able to connect with people, and most people don't vote for someone who openly looks down on them.


I'm aware, but Harris doesn't connect with people either.


I have seen her in action, she absolutely does.
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jsteele wrote:
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jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?


Yes, and fairly easily.


Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.


My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.


You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?


I expect that the VP choice will be a White male former or current governor. I don't think it matters which one.


Who’s a former governor who could be on the radar? Obviously NC and Kentucky’s current govs are on the radar.



If Kamala Harris is simply declared the presidential nominee by the party elite, the real talented governors - i.e, Beshear, Whitmer, Shapiro, Moore - are not taking the VP slot. Sinking ship and all. They will choose to live and fight in '28.

The Bidens and their allies destroyed the party. The new generation will have to rebuild it.
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Why would anyone believe anything from Charlie Kirk? Particularly out of the Biden camp?
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Anonymous wrote:It is surreal to think that the following will happen:

1. Elite members of the ruling political party will select a candidate who won zero primaries.

2. That unelected nominee will then suggest that a vote for the opposition party is the end of democracy.

You can almost picture the English-language subtitles explaining that *true* democracy means excluding [the bourgeois / the anti-revolutionaries / the ____]


It is sad to see Biden's decline, so like my father's decline. I'm glad that you have not lived with that.


It is sad. What is also sad is that it was evident for years to those paying attention. It was the Democrats and the complicit media that attempted to destroy anyone who brought it up - see Robert Hur. Schiff et al owe him a huge apology especially in light of Schiff calling on Biden to quit the race.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:Of equal importance, if not more so, is what will happen with the Biden/Harris campaign funds. They have something like $90 million. My understanding is that only Harris can access it if Biden drops out. If that is true, she is really the only option to replace him.

Do you really think she can win?


Yes, and fairly easily.


Jeff, normally I agree with your take and find you very reasonable. But this response baffles me. Why do you think Kamala can easily win? She did poorly in the primary and dropped out early. The unfair misogyny that plagued Hilary hasn’t disappeared. Polls show her faring not much better than Biden. To be fair, they don’t show any Democrat with much of an edge, but lack of name recognition is a factor for the less known Dems. Everyone knows who Kamala is.


My theory is that Biden actually has a great legislative record. My single complaint is his handling of the Israel-Gaza war. The economy is in pretty good shape with high employment, the stock market hitting record highs, and inflation under control. If Biden were 20 years younger, this election wouldn't even be close. But, Biden is not 20 years younger. However, Kamala Harris is. She can take credit for many of Biden's achievements because she was part of the team and she can promise to keep the same course. She will be a very credible messenger on women's health issues and I think she will inspire young people.

I don't believe Hillary Clinton lost because of misogyny, She lost because she ran a poor campaign and because of James Comey's attempting to act politically and screwing it up royally.

In short, Harris just has to campaign on a message to continue the path that has dug the U.S. out of the hole Trump put us in, the path that has made our economy the envy of the world, and promise to protect reproductive rights. And then show energy. She will out hustle Trump and can campaign everywhere. Her historic candidacy will be inspiring and create a lot of excitement.


You think her hypothetical VP pick matters (I think it does)? If yes, who’s your prediction?


My choice is Bashear.

He can credibly go into purple areas and help swing places like Maine and New Hampshire, and the suburbs if independents a as well as Virginia etc.
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Funny that you chose Charlie Kirk's retweet rather than anyone else's (I have seen this from others on X). Hmm.


Here's Halperin's report:https://twitter.com/2waytvapp/status/1814101445232189691


He is the guy who had 5 credible sex abuse charges, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The wanted Biden. Pushed out all challengers. No debates during Dem primaries. Shame on the Dems for cramming Biden down our throats. Now we are stuck with him. If he steps down from the election, the voters have NO say in the next Dem nominee. It’s all by delegates and party elites! WTH!

And then you think of who is actually running the country Right now!!! If Biden steps down, the whole administration is done for.


Challengers were not pushed out. They didn't move the needle.

When was the last time there was a credible challenge to a sitting president? Maybe 1980 when Ted Kennedy ran against Carter and got crushed.
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