Hogan running for Senate

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Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.

While I generally agree with this, maybe there is a scenario where it could be helpful. If MD isn't the state that pushes the senate in the R column would it be helpful to have some moderate Rs filling the role that Sinema and Manchin play now for the Ds. It could give Hogan, and maybe Susan Collins, more power against the MAGA types to force more rational decisions? Or it could allow the Rs to roll over everything. In other words if the Senate is going to be R anyway, does it help to have Hogan in there?

Committee assignments dictate what reaches the floor. Hogan is also marginally pro choice at best. I don't think he's defying his party to hold up legislation. Susan "he looked me in the eye" Collins is not a moderate, she just plays one on TV.

Hogan is not pro choice.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.

While I generally agree with this, maybe there is a scenario where it could be helpful. If MD isn't the state that pushes the senate in the R column would it be helpful to have some moderate Rs filling the role that Sinema and Manchin play now for the Ds. It could give Hogan, and maybe Susan Collins, more power against the MAGA types to force more rational decisions? Or it could allow the Rs to roll over everything. In other words if the Senate is going to be R anyway, does it help to have Hogan in there?

Committee assignments dictate what reaches the floor. Hogan is also marginally pro choice at best. I don't think he's defying his party to hold up legislation. Susan "he looked me in the eye" Collins is not a moderate, she just plays one on TV.

+1 on capturing Collins exactly. In what way was she ever a moderating force that mattered?!?

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It would be helpful among all this in the Senate if Murkowski left the Republican Party, which it appears she is finally considering.

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Anonymous wrote:Hogan is a Republican they are no longer fit for office anywhere.

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Hogan likely to win by 20 points. He will sell himself as the leader of the opposition if the republicans. His power comes from his seat. Does not need maga. His vote has a good chance of being the swing vote. He is a smart pol. He got in at the last minute because the polls showed he almost can’t lose. Sure he can lose but it will take effort.

No, he got in at the last minute so that Cardin couldn’t change his mind and run again. He is running to force the Dems to waste money on MD, probably in exchange for guaranteed support from McConnell and the “establishment” Republican money when he runs for President next cycle.

Hogan has never won a statewide election during a Presidential year. If he actually wanted to be in the Senate, he would have run two years ago against Van Hollen.

No. Van Hollen could beat him. That is why he did not run. This time whoever is the nominee cannot run. His support is from dems that will split ballot.

Your idea on why running is nuts. No one would do that. And McConnell is gone. No payback. He is running because it is easy to win this cycle. Otherwise he would have stayed out.

Hogan was polling above Van Hollen in hypothetical match ups. McConnell is still in the Senate through 2026 and still has plenty of influence over the old money side of the GOP, which is exactly who Hogan will be relying on during a 2028 campaign.

He was but those numbers were not solid. This time they were solid. McConnell is out not matter what -- done -- washed up no matter who wins. This is all about Senate now; White House 2028.

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Larry Hogan overrode warnings, safety concerns and costs to bring container ships, like the one that took down Key Bridge, to the Port of Baltimore.
https://www.levernews.com/hogan-pressed-for-bigger-ships-despite-safety-warnings/

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Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan overrode warnings, safety concerns and costs to bring container ships, like the one that took down Key Bridge, to the Port of Baltimore.
https://www.levernews.com/hogan-pressed-for-bigger-ships-despite-safety-warnings/

This is a really important story, but moreso because it reflects the GOP deference to business at the expense of consumers and workers - you know, the regular people.

It is all fine and good to say there are too many regulations that curtail the ability of business to thrive, but then something like this happens, people are dead and a city and its workers/residents will be negatively impacted for years.

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Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan overrode warnings, safety concerns and costs to bring container ships, like the one that took down Key Bridge, to the Port of Baltimore.
https://www.levernews.com/hogan-pressed-for-bigger-ships-despite-safety-warnings/

This is a really important story, but moreso because it reflects the GOP deference to business at the expense of consumers and workers - you know, the regular people.

It is all fine and good to say there are too many regulations that curtail the ability of business to thrive, but then something like this happens, people are dead and a city and its workers/residents will be negatively impacted for years.

It is actually not all fine and good to say that. Regulations protect the health and safety of people and the environment. Businesses that can only thrive by harming the health and safety of people and the environment should not be in business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hogan is a Republican they are no longer fit for office anywhere.

National Abortion ban
Project 2025
First 100 days installing Christian Nationalists that bow to Donald Trump
Dictator

Hogan likely to win by 20 points. He will sell himself as the leader of the opposition if the republicans. His power comes from his seat. Does not need maga. His vote has a good chance of being the swing vote. He is a smart pol. He got in at the last minute because the polls showed he almost can’t lose. Sure he can lose but it will take effort.

No, he got in at the last minute so that Cardin couldn’t change his mind and run again. He is running to force the Dems to waste money on MD, probably in exchange for guaranteed support from McConnell and the “establishment” Republican money when he runs for President next cycle.

Hogan has never won a statewide election during a Presidential year. If he actually wanted to be in the Senate, he would have run two years ago against Van Hollen.

No. Van Hollen could beat him. That is why he did not run. This time whoever is the nominee cannot run. His support is from dems that will split ballot.

Your idea on why running is nuts. No one would do that. And McConnell is gone. No payback. He is running because it is easy to win this cycle. Otherwise he would have stayed out.

Hogan was polling above Van Hollen in hypothetical match ups. McConnell is still in the Senate through 2026 and still has plenty of influence over the old money side of the GOP, which is exactly who Hogan will be relying on during a 2028 campaign.

He was but those numbers were not solid. This time they were solid. McConnell is out not matter what -- done -- washed up no matter who wins. This is all about Senate now; White House 2028.

Oh? How were the numbers “not solid” then? Please elaborate.

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The polls have tightened.

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Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan overrode warnings, safety concerns and costs to bring container ships, like the one that took down Key Bridge, to the Port of Baltimore.
https://www.levernews.com/hogan-pressed-for-bigger-ships-despite-safety-warnings/

As someone who works in global logistics, this is one of the dumber hit pieces Ive ever seen.

Every port on the east coast allows panamax container ships. NY, NJ, Norfolk, etc.

If for some reason the port of Baltimore did not (and therte is literally no reason for them not to), they would be at such an economic disadvantage, it would be devastating to the state.

Complete non story.

And if for some reason allowing panamax was so bad, and dangerous- why did Wes Moore not rescind it? Why did the MD house and senate do nothing about it??

Because its completely fine.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a former Reagan Republican who has been abandoned by the current MAGA Republican party. I was a Republican who voted for Trump and Hogan in their first elections. I was an independent who voted for Biden and Hogan the second time Trump and Hogan ran for their offices. I like Hogan, I absolutely abhor Trone as a raging hypocrite who only goes with liberal policies because they are politically expediant.

All that said, I cannot vote for Hogan, for a Congressional seat in either chamber of Congress because of current national politics. The current MAGA party is dangerous for our nation and I will do what I can to avoid giving them control of either chamber. So I will vote Democratic for any candidate going to Congress. While I respect a lot of Hogan's positions (and frankly, he pretty accurately represents many of my own personal political mores), I have no faith that he will be able to stand up to the political machinery and he will become a rank and file member of his party should he be elected. There is no bucking the Republican party in Congress. Not safely. It's political suicide.

I would say that NOT bucking the MAGAs in the Senate would be political suicide for Hogan in Maryland. Part of his appeal to moderate Dems and Republicans and independents is that he is not MAGA. It’s not like he’s a Republican running in a crazy @ss state like Alabama where he has to join the crazy to win and stay in office, he’s running in a traditionally Democratic state. If he goes to the Senate and all of a sudden turns MAGA, he’s a one and done. He’s also politically savvy enough to know this.

Reagan Republican back.

No, Hogan cannot buck the MAGA's. That's a sure-fire way to be the most ineffective Senator to ever get elected. If he bucks the MAGAs he will be even more outcast than George Santos in the House. He will have any appointments taken away. He will be a Senator for voting only with no other voice in the Senate. He will have problems come reelection time because he will have nothing, no successes, no actions, no bills, no positive work to bank on for reelection. And Marylanders are politically savvy, they will see that he wasn't just not effective, but was actually a boat anchor for MD. His only chance to be effective enough in the Senate to actually stand a chance at reelection or to launch a presidential campaign based on his work in the Senate is to go along with the MAGA and actually have some political ribbons to pin a reelection campaign on.

You're not very plugged into the current Senate, are you? MAGA Republicans are the minority of the caucus, and power remains with those who reject Trump and thwarted his policies (even if not publicly or loudly).

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Anonymous wrote:The polls have tightened.

This is from Fox five article. I don’t know what the poll numbers were like before but this is a quote. These numbers are interesting and I wonder if they’ll change due to the fact that Trone has been heavily advertising for months. Angela Alsorookes also started running ads not too long ago but Hogan hasn’t so when, he does start running ads. Will those numbers get wider or will it not matter?

“ In a hypothetical race against Prince George’s County Executive Angela Alsobrooks, 44 percent of respondents said they’d back Hogan, 40 percent said they’d vote for Alsobrooks, and 11 percent were undecided.

In a hypothetical race against U.S. Rep. David Trone, Hogan took 43 percent of respondents, Trone took 42 percent, and 10 percent of respondents were undecided”

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Anonymous wrote:I am a former Reagan Republican who has been abandoned by the current MAGA Republican party. I was a Republican who voted for Trump and Hogan in their first elections. I was an independent who voted for Biden and Hogan the second time Trump and Hogan ran for their offices. I like Hogan, I absolutely abhor Trone as a raging hypocrite who only goes with liberal policies because they are politically expediant.

All that said, I cannot vote for Hogan, for a Congressional seat in either chamber of Congress because of current national politics. The current MAGA party is dangerous for our nation and I will do what I can to avoid giving them control of either chamber. So I will vote Democratic for any candidate going to Congress. While I respect a lot of Hogan's positions (and frankly, he pretty accurately represents many of my own personal political mores), I have no faith that he will be able to stand up to the political machinery and he will become a rank and file member of his party should he be elected. There is no bucking the Republican party in Congress. Not safely. It's political suicide.

I would say that NOT bucking the MAGAs in the Senate would be political suicide for Hogan in Maryland. Part of his appeal to moderate Dems and Republicans and independents is that he is not MAGA. It’s not like he’s a Republican running in a crazy @ss state like Alabama where he has to join the crazy to win and stay in office, he’s running in a traditionally Democratic state. If he goes to the Senate and all of a sudden turns MAGA, he’s a one and done. He’s also politically savvy enough to know this.

Reagan Republican back.

No, Hogan cannot buck the MAGA's. That's a sure-fire way to be the most ineffective Senator to ever get elected. If he bucks the MAGAs he will be even more outcast than George Santos in the House. He will have any appointments taken away. He will be a Senator for voting only with no other voice in the Senate. He will have problems come reelection time because he will have nothing, no successes, no actions, no bills, no positive work to bank on for reelection. And Marylanders are politically savvy, they will see that he wasn't just not effective, but was actually a boat anchor for MD. His only chance to be effective enough in the Senate to actually stand a chance at reelection or to launch a presidential campaign based on his work in the Senate is to go along with the MAGA and actually have some political ribbons to pin a reelection campaign on.

You're not very plugged into the current Senate, are you? MAGA Republicans are the minority of the caucus, and power remains with those who reject Trump and thwarted his policies (even if not publicly or loudly).

They have all rejected Trump by ... endorsing him.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.

While I generally agree with this, maybe there is a scenario where it could be helpful. If MD isn't the state that pushes the senate in the R column would it be helpful to have some moderate Rs filling the role that Sinema and Manchin play now for the Ds. It could give Hogan, and maybe Susan Collins, more power against the MAGA types to force more rational decisions? Or it could allow the Rs to roll over everything. In other words if the Senate is going to be R anyway, does it help to have Hogan in there?

Committee assignments dictate what reaches the floor. Hogan is also marginally pro choice at best. I don't think he's defying his party to hold up legislation. Susan "he looked me in the eye" Collins is not a moderate, she just plays one on TV.

Hogan is not pro choice.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Larry Hogan overrode warnings, safety concerns and costs to bring container ships, like the one that took down Key Bridge, to the Port of Baltimore.
https://www.levernews.com/hogan-pressed-for-bigger-ships-despite-safety-warnings/

As someone who works in global logistics, this is one of the dumber hit pieces Ive ever seen.

Every port on the east coast allows panamax container ships. NY, NJ, Norfolk, etc.

If for some reason the port of Baltimore did not (and therte is literally no reason for them not to), they would be at such an economic disadvantage, it would be devastating to the state.

Complete non story.

And if for some reason allowing panamax was so bad, and dangerous- why did Wes Moore not rescind it? Why did the MD house and senate do nothing about it??

Because its completely fine.

I mean it’s obviously not completely fine since the port is shut down for months and it will cost billions to repair the bridge?