Hogan running for Senate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a former Reagan Republican who has been abandoned by the current MAGA Republican party. I was a Republican who voted for Trump and Hogan in their first elections. I was an independent who voted for Biden and Hogan the second time Trump and Hogan ran for their offices. I like Hogan, I absolutely abhor Trone as a raging hypocrite who only goes with liberal policies because they are politically expediant.

All that said, I cannot vote for Hogan, for a Congressional seat in either chamber of Congress because of current national politics. The current MAGA party is dangerous for our nation and I will do what I can to avoid giving them control of either chamber. So I will vote Democratic for any candidate going to Congress. While I respect a lot of Hogan's positions (and frankly, he pretty accurately represents many of my own personal political mores), I have no faith that he will be able to stand up to the political machinery and he will become a rank and file member of his party should he be elected. There is no bucking the Republican party in Congress. Not safely. It's political suicide.

I would say that NOT bucking the MAGAs in the Senate would be political suicide for Hogan in Maryland. Part of his appeal to moderate Dems and Republicans and independents is that he is not MAGA. It’s not like he’s a Republican running in a crazy @ss state like Alabama where he has to join the crazy to win and stay in office, he’s running in a traditionally Democratic state. If he goes to the Senate and all of a sudden turns MAGA, he’s a one and done. He’s also politically savvy enough to know this.

This is a good point. If Hogan goes MAGA, he will be one and done. I don't think that's what he's after. I think he's positioning himself to run for POTUS, and he can't run as a MAGA POTUS because he's already alienated the MAGA crowd. So, he will go in as a moderate R to try to pull the real Rs, Independents and some moderate Dems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not a snowballs chance in h*ll would I vote for Hogan, and Maryland probably won't either
1 - Hogan is incredibly right wing (was kept in check by democratic state legislature during his time in office). I probably disagree with him on every single policy
2 - MD, a very blue state (not purple) is not going to tip the senate
3 - abortion and access to birth control are very much on my mind, and I assume the mind of every female in the state (and I am way past the age of having babies, but I worry about my daughters and their friends, and all the young women)

I agree with you on everything except I think Hogan is going to win. I’m one of the few Marylanders who actively dislikes Hogan and does not understand this hold he has over this state. But I think he will win.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a former Reagan Republican who has been abandoned by the current MAGA Republican party. I was a Republican who voted for Trump and Hogan in their first elections. I was an independent who voted for Biden and Hogan the second time Trump and Hogan ran for their offices. I like Hogan, I absolutely abhor Trone as a raging hypocrite who only goes with liberal policies because they are politically expediant.

All that said, I cannot vote for Hogan, for a Congressional seat in either chamber of Congress because of current national politics. The current MAGA party is dangerous for our nation and I will do what I can to avoid giving them control of either chamber. So I will vote Democratic for any candidate going to Congress. While I respect a lot of Hogan's positions (and frankly, he pretty accurately represents many of my own personal political mores), I have no faith that he will be able to stand up to the political machinery and he will become a rank and file member of his party should he be elected. There is no bucking the Republican party in Congress. Not safely. It's political suicide.

I would say that NOT bucking the MAGAs in the Senate would be political suicide for Hogan in Maryland. Part of his appeal to moderate Dems and Republicans and independents is that he is not MAGA. It’s not like he’s a Republican running in a crazy @ss state like Alabama where he has to join the crazy to win and stay in office, he’s running in a traditionally Democratic state. If he goes to the Senate and all of a sudden turns MAGA, he’s a one and done. He’s also politically savvy enough to know this.

Reagan Republican back.

No, Hogan cannot buck the MAGA's. That's a sure-fire way to be the most ineffective Senator to ever get elected. If he bucks the MAGAs he will be even more outcast than George Santos in the House. He will have any appointments taken away. He will be a Senator for voting only with no other voice in the Senate. He will have problems come reelection time because he will have nothing, no successes, no actions, no bills, no positive work to bank on for reelection. And Marylanders are politically savvy, they will see that he wasn't just not effective, but was actually a boat anchor for MD. His only chance to be effective enough in the Senate to actually stand a chance at reelection or to launch a presidential campaign based on his work in the Senate is to go along with the MAGA and actually have some political ribbons to pin a reelection campaign on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a former Reagan Republican who has been abandoned by the current MAGA Republican party. I was a Republican who voted for Trump and Hogan in their first elections. I was an independent who voted for Biden and Hogan the second time Trump and Hogan ran for their offices. I like Hogan, I absolutely abhor Trone as a raging hypocrite who only goes with liberal policies because they are politically expediant.

All that said, I cannot vote for Hogan, for a Congressional seat in either chamber of Congress because of current national politics. The current MAGA party is dangerous for our nation and I will do what I can to avoid giving them control of either chamber. So I will vote Democratic for any candidate going to Congress. While I respect a lot of Hogan's positions (and frankly, he pretty accurately represents many of my own personal political mores), I have no faith that he will be able to stand up to the political machinery and he will become a rank and file member of his party should he be elected. There is no bucking the Republican party in Congress. Not safely. It's political suicide.

I would say that NOT bucking the MAGAs in the Senate would be political suicide for Hogan in Maryland. Part of his appeal to moderate Dems and Republicans and independents is that he is not MAGA. It’s not like he’s a Republican running in a crazy @ss state like Alabama where he has to join the crazy to win and stay in office, he’s running in a traditionally Democratic state. If he goes to the Senate and all of a sudden turns MAGA, he’s a one and done. He’s also politically savvy enough to know this.

Reagan Republican back.

No, Hogan cannot buck the MAGA's. That's a sure-fire way to be the most ineffective Senator to ever get elected. If he bucks the MAGAs he will be even more outcast than George Santos in the House. He will have any appointments taken away. He will be a Senator for voting only with no other voice in the Senate. He will have problems come reelection time because he will have nothing, no successes, no actions, no bills, no positive work to bank on for reelection. And Marylanders are politically savvy, they will see that he wasn't just not effective, but was actually a boat anchor for MD. His only chance to be effective enough in the Senate to actually stand a chance at reelection or to launch a presidential campaign based on his work in the Senate is to go along with the MAGA and actually have some political ribbons to pin a reelection campaign on.

I don’t agree with this at all. Maryland will not back a MAGA. Remember the Dems openly assisting Dan Cox be the GOP candidate for governor because they knew he could never get elected in a state-wide race? A sure fire way for Hogan to ensure he serves only 1 term in the Senate is to turn MAGA, his coalition of voters will not support that. I also think there’s more room to maneuver for a non-MAGA Republican in the Senate than in the House, particularly if Biden is re-elected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a former Reagan Republican who has been abandoned by the current MAGA Republican party. I was a Republican who voted for Trump and Hogan in their first elections. I was an independent who voted for Biden and Hogan the second time Trump and Hogan ran for their offices. I like Hogan, I absolutely abhor Trone as a raging hypocrite who only goes with liberal policies because they are politically expediant.

All that said, I cannot vote for Hogan, for a Congressional seat in either chamber of Congress because of current national politics. The current MAGA party is dangerous for our nation and I will do what I can to avoid giving them control of either chamber. So I will vote Democratic for any candidate going to Congress. While I respect a lot of Hogan's positions (and frankly, he pretty accurately represents many of my own personal political mores), I have no faith that he will be able to stand up to the political machinery and he will become a rank and file member of his party should he be elected. There is no bucking the Republican party in Congress. Not safely. It's political suicide.

I would say that NOT bucking the MAGAs in the Senate would be political suicide for Hogan in Maryland. Part of his appeal to moderate Dems and Republicans and independents is that he is not MAGA. It’s not like he’s a Republican running in a crazy @ss state like Alabama where he has to join the crazy to win and stay in office, he’s running in a traditionally Democratic state. If he goes to the Senate and all of a sudden turns MAGA, he’s a one and done. He’s also politically savvy enough to know this.

Reagan Republican back.

No, Hogan cannot buck the MAGA's. That's a sure-fire way to be the most ineffective Senator to ever get elected. If he bucks the MAGAs he will be even more outcast than George Santos in the House. He will have any appointments taken away. He will be a Senator for voting only with no other voice in the Senate. He will have problems come reelection time because he will have nothing, no successes, no actions, no bills, no positive work to bank on for reelection. And Marylanders are politically savvy, they will see that he wasn't just not effective, but was actually a boat anchor for MD. His only chance to be effective enough in the Senate to actually stand a chance at reelection or to launch a presidential campaign based on his work in the Senate is to go along with the MAGA and actually have some political ribbons to pin a reelection campaign on.

I don’t agree with this at all. Maryland will not back a MAGA. Remember the Dems openly assisting Dan Cox be the GOP candidate for governor because they knew he could never get elected in a state-wide race? A sure fire way for Hogan to ensure he serves only 1 term in the Senate is to turn MAGA, his coalition of voters will not support that. I also think there’s more room to maneuver for a non-MAGA Republican in the Senate than in the House, particularly if Biden is re-elected.

+1 Hogan stands no chance of holding a multi term Senate seat in Maryland if he flipped flopped on his stance against Trump at any point. His political success in Maryland has a lot to do with his integrity and fair-minded approach as an executive offsetting some of the inevitable political viewpoint conflicts he has with a majority of Maryland voters. If he were to embrace anything Trump or MAGA during his campaign or while serving in the Senate, his integrity would change from a strength to a weakness and his political career in Maryland would be over.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a former Reagan Republican who has been abandoned by the current MAGA Republican party. I was a Republican who voted for Trump and Hogan in their first elections. I was an independent who voted for Biden and Hogan the second time Trump and Hogan ran for their offices. I like Hogan, I absolutely abhor Trone as a raging hypocrite who only goes with liberal policies because they are politically expediant.

All that said, I cannot vote for Hogan, for a Congressional seat in either chamber of Congress because of current national politics. The current MAGA party is dangerous for our nation and I will do what I can to avoid giving them control of either chamber. So I will vote Democratic for any candidate going to Congress. While I respect a lot of Hogan's positions (and frankly, he pretty accurately represents many of my own personal political mores), I have no faith that he will be able to stand up to the political machinery and he will become a rank and file member of his party should he be elected. There is no bucking the Republican party in Congress. Not safely. It's political suicide.

I would say that NOT bucking the MAGAs in the Senate would be political suicide for Hogan in Maryland. Part of his appeal to moderate Dems and Republicans and independents is that he is not MAGA. It’s not like he’s a Republican running in a crazy @ss state like Alabama where he has to join the crazy to win and stay in office, he’s running in a traditionally Democratic state. If he goes to the Senate and all of a sudden turns MAGA, he’s a one and done. He’s also politically savvy enough to know this.

Reagan Republican back.

No, Hogan cannot buck the MAGA's. That's a sure-fire way to be the most ineffective Senator to ever get elected. If he bucks the MAGAs he will be even more outcast than George Santos in the House. He will have any appointments taken away. He will be a Senator for voting only with no other voice in the Senate. He will have problems come reelection time because he will have nothing, no successes, no actions, no bills, no positive work to bank on for reelection. And Marylanders are politically savvy, they will see that he wasn't just not effective, but was actually a boat anchor for MD. His only chance to be effective enough in the Senate to actually stand a chance at reelection or to launch a presidential campaign based on his work in the Senate is to go along with the MAGA and actually have some political ribbons to pin a reelection campaign on.

I don’t agree with this at all. Maryland will not back a MAGA. Remember the Dems openly assisting Dan Cox be the GOP candidate for governor because they knew he could never get elected in a state-wide race? A sure fire way for Hogan to ensure he serves only 1 term in the Senate is to turn MAGA, his coalition of voters will not support that. I also think there’s more room to maneuver for a non-MAGA Republican in the Senate than in the House, particularly if Biden is re-elected.

He doesn't need to "turn MAGA". He is a Republican. The Republican Party is now the MAGA Party. No matter how much he might want to be a non-MAGA Republican, you can't be something that doesn't exist anymore.

[Anonymous]

There is no room in the Senate for a no -MAGA Republican.

Look at Romney, who had to retire. Look at Susan Collins who has given up any pretense of independence.

Remember that McConnell is retiring as leader and the new leader will be even more MAGA.

People suggesting Hogan can be an independent Republican are just selling a big steaming pile of crap so the Rs can control the Senate and adopt nationwide ban on abortion, birth control etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no room in the Senate for a no -MAGA Republican.

Look at Romney, who had to retire. Look at Susan Collins who has given up any pretense of independence.

Remember that McConnell is retiring as leader and the new leader will be even more MAGA.

People suggesting Hogan can be an independent Republican are just selling a big steaming pile of crap so the Rs can control the Senate and adopt nationwide ban on abortion, birth control etc.

And... guess what... there is no room in the Senate for a moderate Democrat. They all follow the loony left when it comes to voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hogan is a Republican they are no longer fit for office anywhere.

National Abortion ban
Project 2025
First 100 days installing Christian Nationalists that bow to Donald Trump
Dictator

Hogan likely to win by 20 points. He will sell himself as the leader of the opposition if the republicans. His power comes from his seat. Does not need maga. His vote has a good chance of being the swing vote. He is a smart pol. He got in at the last minute because the polls showed he almost can’t lose. Sure he can lose but it will take effort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hogan is a Republican they are no longer fit for office anywhere.

National Abortion ban
Project 2025
First 100 days installing Christian Nationalists that bow to Donald Trump
Dictator

Hogan likely to win by 20 points. He will sell himself as the leader of the opposition if the republicans. His power comes from his seat. Does not need maga. His vote has a good chance of being the swing vote. He is a smart pol. He got in at the last minute because the polls showed he almost can’t lose. Sure he can lose but it will take effort.

No, he got in at the last minute so that Cardin couldn’t change his mind and run again. He is running to force the Dems to waste money on MD, probably in exchange for guaranteed support from McConnell and the “establishment” Republican money when he runs for President next cycle.

Hogan has never won a statewide election during a Presidential year. If he actually wanted to be in the Senate, he would have run two years ago against Van Hollen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hogan is a Republican they are no longer fit for office anywhere.

National Abortion ban
Project 2025
First 100 days installing Christian Nationalists that bow to Donald Trump
Dictator

Hogan likely to win by 20 points. He will sell himself as the leader of the opposition if the republicans. His power comes from his seat. Does not need maga. His vote has a good chance of being the swing vote. He is a smart pol. He got in at the last minute because the polls showed he almost can’t lose. Sure he can lose but it will take effort.

No, he got in at the last minute so that Cardin couldn’t change his mind and run again. He is running to force the Dems to waste money on MD, probably in exchange for guaranteed support from McConnell and the “establishment” Republican money when he runs for President next cycle.

Hogan has never won a statewide election during a Presidential year. If he actually wanted to be in the Senate, he would have run two years ago against Van Hollen.

No. Van Hollen could beat him. That is why he did not run. This time whoever is the nominee cannot run. His support is from dems that will split ballot.

Your idea on why running is nuts. No one would do that. And McConnell is gone. No payback. He is running because it is easy to win this cycle. Otherwise he would have stayed out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.

My thoughts exactly. My husband and I were talking about it. It's too dangerous to have them majority Republicans in our senate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hogan is a Republican they are no longer fit for office anywhere.

National Abortion ban
Project 2025
First 100 days installing Christian Nationalists that bow to Donald Trump
Dictator

Hogan likely to win by 20 points. He will sell himself as the leader of the opposition if the republicans. His power comes from his seat. Does not need maga. His vote has a good chance of being the swing vote. He is a smart pol. He got in at the last minute because the polls showed he almost can’t lose. Sure he can lose but it will take effort.

No, he got in at the last minute so that Cardin couldn’t change his mind and run again. He is running to force the Dems to waste money on MD, probably in exchange for guaranteed support from McConnell and the “establishment” Republican money when he runs for President next cycle.

Hogan has never won a statewide election during a Presidential year. If he actually wanted to be in the Senate, he would have run two years ago against Van Hollen.

No. Van Hollen could beat him. That is why he did not run. This time whoever is the nominee cannot run. His support is from dems that will split ballot.

Your idea on why running is nuts. No one would do that. And McConnell is gone. No payback. He is running because it is easy to win this cycle. Otherwise he would have stayed out.

Hogan was polling above Van Hollen in hypothetical match ups. McConnell is still in the Senate through 2026 and still has plenty of influence over the old money side of the GOP, which is exactly who Hogan will be relying on during a 2028 campaign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.

While I generally agree with this, maybe there is a scenario where it could be helpful. If MD isn't the state that pushes the senate in the R column would it be helpful to have some moderate Rs filling the role that Sinema and Manchin play now for the Ds. It could give Hogan, and maybe Susan Collins, more power against the MAGA types to force more rational decisions? Or it could allow the Rs to roll over everything. In other words if the Senate is going to be R anyway, does it help to have Hogan in there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.

While I generally agree with this, maybe there is a scenario where it could be helpful. If MD isn't the state that pushes the senate in the R column would it be helpful to have some moderate Rs filling the role that Sinema and Manchin play now for the Ds. It could give Hogan, and maybe Susan Collins, more power against the MAGA types to force more rational decisions? Or it could allow the Rs to roll over everything. In other words if the Senate is going to be R anyway, does it help to have Hogan in there?

Committee assignments dictate what reaches the floor. Hogan is also marginally pro choice at best. I don't think he's defying his party to hold up legislation. Susan "he looked me in the eye" Collins is not a moderate, she just plays one on TV.