Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

[Anonymous]

The thing about the quarantine hotels discussed in BOTH of those articles linked above is that people stay there because they have covid or they're suspected to have been exposed to it. Seems like there's a much higher ratio of covid infected air than you'd have at a regular hotel, fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

Ask the hotel staff how they feel about cleaning a bathroom a Covid positive person used as their personal safe haven. I hope you left a really big tip to cover their days off due to illness your loved one knowingly exposed them to.

[Anonymous]

DP. But if you're not staying home when you're ill and masking indoors to protect others from asymptomatic infection, then please shut up about other people who are masking, opening windows, and using HEPA filters lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. But if you're not staying home when you're ill and masking indoors to protect others from asymptomatic infection, then please shut up about other people who are masking, opening windows, and using HEPA filters lol.

Seriously. The same "it's just a cold" people who do nothing to protect themselves or others want to give those of us doing more notes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

Yes and you flattened the curve by having minimum wage gig people doing all of your grocery shopping and food deliveries.
Just own that you put yourself above others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. But if you're not staying home when you're ill and masking indoors to protect others from asymptomatic infection, then please shut up about other people who are masking, opening windows, and using HEPA filters lol.

If you're checking into a hotel when sick, you're not staying home either. Do as I say, not as I do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

You are supposed to notify the hotel if you test positive for covid while you're staying there. They all have protocols to follow for airing out the room and cleaning after you leave. And they also have plans in place to deliver food and care items to you so you don't have to exit the room and expose others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

A hotel with windows that open? Did you also time travel to the 1950s?

Nj ope just a few blocks from our apartment—hotel in historic Bldg

Historic buildings are renowned for their modern building standards.

The hotel had a window we could open, so we did. It's not really up for debate. It's a fact that there are hotels with windows that open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. But if you're not staying home when you're ill and masking indoors to protect others from asymptomatic infection, then please shut up about other people who are masking, opening windows, and using HEPA filters lol.

If you're checking into a hotel when sick, you're not staying home either. Do as I say, not as I do.

You guys are something else. Someone isolating in a room by themselves with open windows and a HEPA with minimal other human contact, rather than staying in a two room apartment with their whole family, has a lower chance of infecting more people, family or not. Meanwhile you're not masking or doing the slightest thing to prevent yourselves from getting infected but please do lecture this PP about responsibility that's rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

Ask the hotel staff how they feel about cleaning a bathroom a Covid positive person used as their personal safe haven. I hope you left a really big tip to cover their days off due to illness your loved one knowingly exposed them to.

Wait, so now we're back to Covid lives on surfaces? Have I stumbled into a time machine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why folks are giving PP a hard time about the hotel room. Any covid air from the room is getting disbursed by the time it hits someone else, to the point where it won't be infecting someone. The dose makes the poison, right? Inhaling 1 molecule of covid doesn't infect someone (their body can fight off that small amount of the infection), but inhaling like 200 does, or whatever.

The mere fact of someone being in a hotel room separate from others staying there, where air vents break up and dispurse the air (and in this case PP had windows open and a HEPA filter etc) -- this isn't a risk factor for other people. The risk factor is standing close to someone with covid and breathing the same air they breathe for more than a second or two if you don't have a mask on, or for longer if you do have a mask on.

I think the covid deniers just don't really understand the basics re covid transmission so they come out with these weird arguments that don't really make sense.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-05/omicron-s-spread-across-hotel-hall-highlights-transmission-worry
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/17/air-systems-in-some-uk-quarantine-hotels-risk-spreading-covid

All good though right?

They had the windows open and a HEPA filter going full blast, as they have said multiple times, but go off!

Love this coming from the people who don't mask or stay home when they're sick, but are quick to point at people who do take precautions over the slightest chance of them causing an infection. Oh did this sick person possibly infect you from across the hallway of the hotel? Maybe you should be wearing a mask indoors then, guess you never heard that advice, hmm.

+1

Apparently they are not worried about riding in the elevator with other maskless individuals, many who could be ill with covid or flu or rsv. The risk from air in an individual hotel room where the door is only opened 4-5 times per day (at which point the sick individual is masked), with a hepa filter running and window open is minimal. Similar risk (or lower) to walking 10 ft from someone infected outside. If you live in an apartment, the person nearest you could have covid raging in their apartment and you would be at similar or much higher risk (if no filters or windows open).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing about the quarantine hotels discussed in BOTH of those articles linked above is that people stay there because they have covid or they're suspected to have been exposed to it. Seems like there's a much higher ratio of covid infected air than you'd have at a regular hotel, fwiw.

Excellent point!
Plus, if they had been exposed (hence why in the covid hotel), it is MUCH more likely that they got covid from that actual exposure, not "covid air traveling under the door"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

Ask the hotel staff how they feel about cleaning a bathroom a Covid positive person used as their personal safe haven. I hope you left a really big tip to cover their days off due to illness your loved one knowingly exposed them to.

If I were cleaning public restrooms, I would wear gloves and a mask to avoid catching any disease. But in reality all they would need is the gloves if they were concerned and who the hell cleans hotel restrooms and doesn't wear gloves? Or wash their hands before touching their face/phone/etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

You are supposed to notify the hotel if you test positive for covid while you're staying there. They all have protocols to follow for airing out the room and cleaning after you leave. And they also have plans in place to deliver food and care items to you so you don't have to exit the room and expose others.

DP: No protocols anymore for "notifying the hotels". That might have been 2020 and 2021, but certainly not 2023.

2nd: exiting the room with a KN95/N95 mask to go outside is not "exposing others". the PP did not say the kid went to the restaurant to have dinner. If you choose to go into a public place without a mask, you have to assume you will encounter at least one (if not several ) people who have covid currently (or RSV/Flu/other illnesses). That kid wearing a quality mask is the least of your concerns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. But if you're not staying home when you're ill and masking indoors to protect others from asymptomatic infection, then please shut up about other people who are masking, opening windows, and using HEPA filters lol.

If you're checking into a hotel when sick, you're not staying home either. Do as I say, not as I do.

You guys are something else. Someone isolating in a room by themselves with open windows and a HEPA with minimal other human contact, rather than staying in a two room apartment with their whole family, has a lower chance of infecting more people, family or not. Meanwhile you're not masking or doing the slightest thing to prevent yourselves from getting infected but please do lecture this PP about responsibility that's rich.

You had to check in, ride the elevator, greet people, you were around other people. So selfish.