Did you gather in large groups for the holidays? A virus may be your post-holiday present

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Today is Thursday. My sibling went on vacation to two cities in Mexico over Christmas week. Then came home and had a small NYE party. On NY Day I went over to drop off a birthday gift, and kept a mask on the entire time. An hour ago my sibling told me they tested positive for Covid.

I have wondered if it’s polite to semi-quarantine for a few days after a trip.

Not a full quar, but maybe a social one. Optional activities..stay home.

I thought about this last cruise. I didn’t get sick, but .. the day I returned it was my bday. I went out with friends for dinner. Maybe I should I have postponed my bday stuff a few days, out of courtesy.

No. Possibly letting people that are truly and severely immunocompromised know, but even that seems silly when everyone regularly has exposures to people with covid, whether they know it or not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had direct and prolonged exposure right before Christmas. Somehow the rest of us miraculously avoided it. Multiple negative tests and no symptoms.

+1

Same. One kid brought it home, we live in an apt, and miraculously nobody else got it, despite 36 hours of likely exposure (and high viral loads--their test lite up positive in 30 seconds). I attribute that to the HEPA filters we run continuously in the apt. And that we moved the infected kid to a hotel ASAP after they tested positive. And then we masked when had to be around them (and moved a HEPA filter to their hotel room as well)

you sent your sick kid to a hotel? alone? wtf.

See, those people at the hotel do not matter, but the PP is now super virtuous and going to heaven because her household is now safe.

I love you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had direct and prolonged exposure right before Christmas. Somehow the rest of us miraculously avoided it. Multiple negative tests and no symptoms.

+1

Same. One kid brought it home, we live in an apt, and miraculously nobody else got it, despite 36 hours of likely exposure (and high viral loads--their test lite up positive in 30 seconds). I attribute that to the HEPA filters we run continuously in the apt. And that we moved the infected kid to a hotel ASAP after they tested positive. And then we masked when had to be around them (and moved a HEPA filter to their hotel room as well)

you sent your sick kid to a hotel? alone? wtf.

See, those people at the hotel do not matter, but the PP is now super virtuous and going to heaven because her household is now safe.

Kid is a 25 yo adult. Hotel was 1 block away. Kid was never staying at our place---they were in a guest suite when getting sick. After you downsize when kids graduate college, it is an issue if they come home and have no place to sleep---so we rent spaces. It's fine---they masked when not in room and hospital grade hepa filter running on high and windows open. By time anyone entered the hotel room the air was long ago clear.

And yes, not bringing a covid positive person into a tiny apartment to infect everyone else. This is no different than someone in the apartment next-door to you having covid.

It is really not PP.

You picked your family over strangers no matter how much you rationalize it.

Just own it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

A hotel with windows that open? Did you also time travel to the 1950s?

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why folks are giving PP a hard time about the hotel room. Any covid air from the room is getting disbursed by the time it hits someone else, to the point where it won't be infecting someone. The dose makes the poison, right? Inhaling 1 molecule of covid doesn't infect someone (their body can fight off that small amount of the infection), but inhaling like 200 does, or whatever.

The mere fact of someone being in a hotel room separate from others staying there, where air vents break up and dispurse the air (and in this case PP had windows open and a HEPA filter etc) -- this isn't a risk factor for other people. The risk factor is standing close to someone with covid and breathing the same air they breathe for more than a second or two if you don't have a mask on, or for longer if you do have a mask on.

I think the covid deniers just don't really understand the basics re covid transmission so they come out with these weird arguments that don't really make sense.

[Anonymous]

This is also why it's usually safe to walk around maskless outdoors. The air currents and effect of walking around is disbursing the covid. You are probably inhaling a molecule or two from random infected people that have been disbursed through the wind outside. But in general the air currents are breaking things up enough so that (unless you're in a thick crowd) you're not getting any real transfer of breathed air from any one person you're walking past or near etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had direct and prolonged exposure right before Christmas. Somehow the rest of us miraculously avoided it. Multiple negative tests and no symptoms.

+1

Same. One kid brought it home, we live in an apt, and miraculously nobody else got it, despite 36 hours of likely exposure (and high viral loads--their test lite up positive in 30 seconds). I attribute that to the HEPA filters we run continuously in the apt. And that we moved the infected kid to a hotel ASAP after they tested positive. And then we masked when had to be around them (and moved a HEPA filter to their hotel room as well)

you sent your sick kid to a hotel? alone? wtf.

See, those people at the hotel do not matter, but the PP is now super virtuous and going to heaven because her household is now safe.

Says a selfish idiot who refuses to mask anywhere, but wants to act like they have the high ground here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had direct and prolonged exposure right before Christmas. Somehow the rest of us miraculously avoided it. Multiple negative tests and no symptoms.

+1

Same. One kid brought it home, we live in an apt, and miraculously nobody else got it, despite 36 hours of likely exposure (and high viral loads--their test lite up positive in 30 seconds). I attribute that to the HEPA filters we run continuously in the apt. And that we moved the infected kid to a hotel ASAP after they tested positive. And then we masked when had to be around them (and moved a HEPA filter to their hotel room as well)

you sent your sick kid to a hotel? alone? wtf.

See, those people at the hotel do not matter, but the PP is now super virtuous and going to heaven because her household is now safe.

I love you.

You're both ugly. Go fsck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

A hotel with windows that open? Did you also time travel to the 1950s?

Nj ope just a few blocks from our apartment—hotel in historic Bldg

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why folks are giving PP a hard time about the hotel room. Any covid air from the room is getting disbursed by the time it hits someone else, to the point where it won't be infecting someone. The dose makes the poison, right? Inhaling 1 molecule of covid doesn't infect someone (their body can fight off that small amount of the infection), but inhaling like 200 does, or whatever.

The mere fact of someone being in a hotel room separate from others staying there, where air vents break up and dispurse the air (and in this case PP had windows open and a HEPA filter etc) -- this isn't a risk factor for other people. The risk factor is standing close to someone with covid and breathing the same air they breathe for more than a second or two if you don't have a mask on, or for longer if you do have a mask on.

I think the covid deniers just don't really understand the basics re covid transmission so they come out with these weird arguments that don't really make sense.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-05/omicron-s-spread-across-hotel-hall-highlights-transmission-worry
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/17/air-systems-in-some-uk-quarantine-hotels-risk-spreading-covid

All good though right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thread full of ignorant and unnecessarily hostile posts by people who don't frickin' read.

This is about avoiding contact with VULNERABLE loved ones right after the kinds of large gatherings you have at the holidays. This was common sense before the pandemic and is common sense now. Covid just adds another virus to the mix of things (Flu, RSV etc) we don't want to give to our vulnerable relatives.

So many posters on here going on about scared people, but -you- are the f'd up ones. All ready to jump up in everyone's face about mah freedom before you actually know what is being discussed. No one is making your precious pre-schoolers wear masks or telling you you can't go to work.

Good Lord. Seek therapy.

And as long as you don't know the people in the hotel, it's fine dumping your COVID positive loved one there.

Good lord, they did not share a hotel room with anyone. They stayed in their room with windows open and hepa filter running on high. They masked when they exited the room to get outside and get fresh air. Everyone in that hotel was 99% more likely actually exposed to someone ill who wasn't masking but was contagious. By time they left hotel, they were not contagious so the air was totally cleaned. Risk to anyone would be minimal at that point as cleaners use gloves.

A hotel with windows that open? Did you also time travel to the 1950s?

Nj ope just a few blocks from our apartment—hotel in historic Bldg

Historic buildings are renowned for their modern building standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why folks are giving PP a hard time about the hotel room. Any covid air from the room is getting disbursed by the time it hits someone else, to the point where it won't be infecting someone. The dose makes the poison, right? Inhaling 1 molecule of covid doesn't infect someone (their body can fight off that small amount of the infection), but inhaling like 200 does, or whatever.

The mere fact of someone being in a hotel room separate from others staying there, where air vents break up and dispurse the air (and in this case PP had windows open and a HEPA filter etc) -- this isn't a risk factor for other people. The risk factor is standing close to someone with covid and breathing the same air they breathe for more than a second or two if you don't have a mask on, or for longer if you do have a mask on.

I think the covid deniers just don't really understand the basics re covid transmission so they come out with these weird arguments that don't really make sense.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-05/omicron-s-spread-across-hotel-hall-highlights-transmission-worry
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/17/air-systems-in-some-uk-quarantine-hotels-risk-spreading-covid

All good though right?

They had the windows open and a HEPA filter going full blast, as they have said multiple times, but go off!

Love this coming from the people who don't mask or stay home when they're sick, but are quick to point at people who do take precautions over the slightest chance of them causing an infection. Oh did this sick person possibly infect you from across the hallway of the hotel? Maybe you should be wearing a mask indoors then, guess you never heard that advice, hmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We had direct and prolonged exposure right before Christmas. Somehow the rest of us miraculously avoided it. Multiple negative tests and no symptoms.

+1

Same. One kid brought it home, we live in an apt, and miraculously nobody else got it, despite 36 hours of likely exposure (and high viral loads--their test lite up positive in 30 seconds). I attribute that to the HEPA filters we run continuously in the apt. And that we moved the infected kid to a hotel ASAP after they tested positive. And then we masked when had to be around them (and moved a HEPA filter to their hotel room as well)

you sent your sick kid to a hotel? alone? wtf.

See, those people at the hotel do not matter, but the PP is now super virtuous and going to heaven because her household is now safe.

Says a selfish idiot who refuses to mask anywhere, but wants to act like they have the high ground here.

At least you concede that you know you don't. But keep trying to justify your selfish irrational ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why folks are giving PP a hard time about the hotel room. Any covid air from the room is getting disbursed by the time it hits someone else, to the point where it won't be infecting someone. The dose makes the poison, right? Inhaling 1 molecule of covid doesn't infect someone (their body can fight off that small amount of the infection), but inhaling like 200 does, or whatever.

The mere fact of someone being in a hotel room separate from others staying there, where air vents break up and dispurse the air (and in this case PP had windows open and a HEPA filter etc) -- this isn't a risk factor for other people. The risk factor is standing close to someone with covid and breathing the same air they breathe for more than a second or two if you don't have a mask on, or for longer if you do have a mask on.

I think the covid deniers just don't really understand the basics re covid transmission so they come out with these weird arguments that don't really make sense.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-05/omicron-s-spread-across-hotel-hall-highlights-transmission-worry
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/17/air-systems-in-some-uk-quarantine-hotels-risk-spreading-covid

All good though right?

They had the windows open and a HEPA filter going full blast, as they have said multiple times, but go off!

Love this coming from the people who don't mask or stay home when they're sick, but are quick to point at people who do take precautions over the slightest chance of them causing an infection. Oh did this sick person possibly infect you from across the hallway of the hotel? Maybe you should be wearing a mask indoors then, guess you never heard that advice, hmm.

You do have a point though that energy efficient hotels that are recirculating air without cleaning it -- as opposed to hotels that are pulling more air from outside -- are going to be more risky in terms of spreading covid I guess. Something to consider when making reservations.