Marylanders: Did you regret not choosing Virginia when it came time to apply to college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, UMD just doesn't have the reputation as UVA. Try as you might with your lowly pop-culture references. UVA's superior reputation is due partly as a result of the presidential legacy of UVA (Jeffersonian architecture), part of it is the location (Charlottesville is far more beautiful), much of it is the endowment.

UVA: 3.5 BILLION
UMD: 350 million

Also, I'm not sure where the UMD bossters are getting their stats, but according to US News, in 2009 UVA accepted 32% of applicants vs 42% at UMD.

Good point...Uva has a far superior endowment. Umd now only has 15 superior attributes to Uva's 4 and 3 ties.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just going on the stats there were more murders on the Uva lacrosse team than in College Park last year. not to mention the rest of Charlottesville. As far as degree value ...world university rank Umd 103 uva 137..more pulitzers, more nobels, more national championships, more famous alumni, more tangeble contributions to society by graduates, more absolute geniuses graduated. Go ahead and live in your version of reality but you can never use Google, watch Seinfeld, the Wire, Curb your Enthusiasm, a stadium Jumbotron, wear any Underarmour products, use any gasoline that has an octane level, purchase any product that has the universal price code on it, have your or any of your relatives children watch the Muppets, use any weather report that uses doppler radar, ever need an insulin pump or implated defilbutator. appreciate that Nixon was impeached via Watergate, use a frequent flyer program, watch a Baywatch rerun, listen to sirius satelite radio, without deep inside paying homage to the superiority of Umd. I of course never have to worry about that because nobody from Uva has ever created anything anybody really needs...are you guys even trying to be smart? By the way we defeated you in all 4 sports we played you in last week. you guys are pitiful....but loveable.

5 stars

[Anonymous]

For some reason you left out Johns Hopkins... The USNA. those two plus Umd are more accomplished and supeioe to all the schools in Va. Hopkins is a private/ public partneship. Congratulations....yuo lose.

The question, dimwit, relates to giving kids an advantage (whether in admissions or tuition) by living in Maryland or Virginia. If you can provide a link to that shows that Hopkins gives admissions preference or reduced tuition to Maryland residents, go for it. The USNA obviously doesn't prefer Maryland residents over Virginia residents, and there is no tuition.

You're kinda . . . let's go with slow. [Insert UMd crack here - let's hope you aren't a USNA graduate.]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pp...it would be impossible to live in the United States and not use Google or the Universal Price Code.

I know....it cracks me up that probably 90% of Uva students are using Google to do their homework and school term papers

Lol, same with everyone on this forum!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just going on the stats there were more murders on the Uva lacrosse team than in College Park last year. not to mention the rest of Charlottesville. As far as degree value ...world university rank Umd 103 uva 137..more pulitzers, more nobels, more national championships, more famous alumni, more tangeble contributions to society by graduates, more absolute geniuses graduated. Go ahead and live in your version of reality but you can never use Google, watch Seinfeld, the Wire, Curb your Enthusiasm, a stadium Jumbotron, wear any Underarmour products, use any gasoline that has an octane level, purchase any product that has the universal price code on it, have your or any of your relatives children watch the Muppets, use any weather report that uses doppler radar, ever need an insulin pump or implated defilbutator. appreciate that Nixon was impeached via Watergate, use a frequent flyer program, watch a Baywatch rerun, listen to sirius satelite radio, without deep inside paying homage to the superiority of Umd. I of course never have to worry about that because nobody from Uva has ever created anything anybody really needs...are you guys even trying to be smart? By the way we defeated you in all 4 sports we played you in last week. you guys are pitiful....but loveable.

5 stars

Omg..I am going to spread this all around the internet..this is awesome!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, UMD just doesn't have the reputation as UVA. Try as you might with your lowly pop-culture references. UVA's superior reputation is due partly as a result of the presidential legacy of UVA (Jeffersonian architecture), part of it is the location (Charlottesville is far more beautiful), much of it is the endowment.

UVA: 3.5 BILLION
UMD: 350 million

Also, I'm not sure where the UMD bossters are getting their stats, but according to US News, in 2009 UVA accepted 32% of applicants vs 42% at UMD.

Good point...Uva has a far superior endowment. Umd now only has 15 superior attributes to Uva's 4 and 3 ties.

You are an idiot if you think that a handful of alum makes up for an endowment that is 10x the size for far fewer students.

[Anonymous]

I'm not saying Uva isn't a good place to learn how to do a real estate settlement. Its just that the only explanation as to why no tangable results have ever come out of the school is that the students are not very good at math and science. They are more the type that sit around, drink like a wahoo, and discuss philosophy. It's funny that Umd has more pulitzer prize alumni as well. Uva does have a large endowment (then again a relative of mine sold Vitamin Water to Coke for more than Uva's endowment) but they apparently do not attract producers as students. They probably do have a record that will never be broken in overall lacrosse team murders.

[Anonymous]

Umd budget $1,575,337,276. Uva budget $1,330,000,000. Umd's budget is 18% higher than Uva's and it doesn't include the Medical Complex that is located in Baltimore. Uva's Budget does include the Uva Medical complex. So Umd can afford to spend 25%+++ more on undegraduates than Uva can. Additionally the Federal Government spends $518,000,000 in research per year at Umd and $325,000,000 at Uva. So officially the United States of America values Umd brain-power as being 59% more valuable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying Uva isn't a good place to learn how to do a real estate settlement. Its just that the only explanation as to why no tangable results have ever come out of the school is that the students are not very good at math and science. They are more the type that sit around, drink like a wahoo, and discuss philosophy. It's funny that Umd has more pulitzer prize alumni as well. Uva does have a large endowment (then again a relative of mine sold Vitamin Water to Coke for more than Uva's endowment) but they apparently do not attract producers as students. They probably do have a record that will never be broken in overall lacrosse team murders.[/quote]

really a below-the-belt comment, and a bit ineffective as a dig considering the accused murderer is from Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying Uva isn't a good place to learn how to do a real estate settlement. Its just that the only explanation as to why no tangable results have ever come out of the school is that the students are not very good at math and science. They are more the type that sit around, drink like a wahoo, and discuss philosophy. It's funny that Umd has more pulitzer prize alumni as well. Uva does have a large endowment (then again a relative of mine sold Vitamin Water to Coke for more than Uva's endowment) but they apparently do not attract producers as students. They probably do have a record that will never be broken in overall lacrosse team murders.[/quote]

really a below-the-belt comment, and a bit ineffective as a dig considering the accused murderer is from Maryland.

Well it's unfortunate for Uva, but symbolic of the stereotype of mean, preppy, not too bright, frustrated types who are attracted to Uva. Don't forget about the poor Va tech student who was abducted and murdered attending a concert on Uva's campus last year as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Umd budget $1,575,337,276. Uva budget $1,330,000,000. Umd's budget is 18% higher than Uva's and it doesn't include the Medical Complex that is located in Baltimore. Uva's Budget does include the Uva Medical complex. So Umd can afford to spend 25%+++ more on undegraduates than Uva can. Additionally the Federal Government spends $518,000,000 in research per year at Umd and $325,000,000 at Uva. So officially the United States of America values Umd brain-power as being 59% more valuable.

The numbers mean nothing unless you divide my the number of students. What is the per capita spending per student?

[Anonymous]

I live in VA with one child having graduated from a state school and a second preparing to choose. Parents from MD, DC and PA have all expressed envy for our choices in state universities.

Our state and county services are great. No complaints.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Umd budget $1,575,337,276. Uva budget $1,330,000,000. Umd's budget is 18% higher than Uva's and it doesn't include the Medical Complex that is located in Baltimore. Uva's Budget does include the Uva Medical complex. So Umd can afford to spend 25%+++ more on undegraduates than Uva can. Additionally the Federal Government spends $518,000,000 in research per year at Umd and $325,000,000 at Uva. So officially the United States of America values Umd brain-power as being 59% more valuable.

This is so true. The U.S spends research dollars where it can get results. It has nothing to do with the number of students. Not only that, but the $200,000,000 more that Umd gets per year more than doubles the yearly return on Uva's endowment return.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just going on the stats there were more murders on the Uva lacrosse team than in College Park last year. not to mention the rest of Charlottesville. As far as degree value ...world university rank Umd 103 uva 137..more pulitzers, more nobels, more national championships, more famous alumni, more tangeble contributions to society by graduates, more absolute geniuses graduated. Go ahead and live in your version of reality but you can never use Google, watch Seinfeld, the Wire, Curb your Enthusiasm, a stadium Jumbotron, wear any Underarmour products, use any gasoline that has an octane level, purchase any product that has the universal price code on it, have your or any of your relatives children watch the Muppets, use any weather report that uses doppler radar, ever need an insulin pump or implated defilbutator. appreciate that Nixon was impeached via Watergate, use a frequent flyer program, watch a Baywatch rerun, listen to sirius satelite radio, without deep inside paying homage to the superiority of Umd. I of course never have to worry about that because nobody from Uva has ever created anything anybody really needs...are you guys even trying to be smart? By the way we defeated you in all 4 sports we played you in last week. you guys are pitiful....but loveable.

Higher yearly budgets at Umd, 58% higher goverment research funding. ect, so on and so forth.

[Anonymous]

I am a professor (not at UVA or UMD) and I have to say that the UMD booster is a bit clueless as to what makes a university reputable for undergraduate education. The references to inventions/cultural icons are perhaps important to a few people, but not to the people who make decisions about a schools' reputation. Research dollars do matter in terms of a university's research status, but they tell very little about how good an undergraduate education a college provides. Most of these research dollars are for equipment and salaries for graduate and post-graduate researchers. In fact, one might reasonably argue that many second-tier research universities (like UMD) actually place LESS value undergraduate education because the faculty is rewarded for research, not for teaching. Think of the small liberal arts colleges--Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, Wesleyan, Pomona--these are routinely regarded as best for undergraduate education.

But I digress. FWIW, I can think of few of my colleagues who would send their children to UMD above UVA.