Dr. Reid replacing school discipline with “restorative justice” ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They tried Restorative Justice circle with DC’s bully last year and the bullying continued anyway afterwards. I also felt bad for DC who was forced to face victim and tell him how he felt in each bullying instance. This emboldened the bully and he continued right after the useless circle. Now the bully was affirmed that his tactics were emotionally disturbing DC.

+1 Yep, it revictimizes the victim! The bully wins again!

Your DC could have declined RJ.

Is it an option to decline RJ, or just an option for the victim to decline participating in the aspect of RJ that involves a dialogue with the bully? And how much information are bullied students provided in order to make an informed choice about their options, or is there tacit pressure to be a good sport and participate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When can we fire Dr Reid and send her back to Washington State where she belongs? Keep her PNW to herself.

+1000 This is such bullshit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They tried Restorative Justice circle with DC’s bully last year and the bullying continued anyway afterwards. I also felt bad for DC who was forced to face victim and tell him how he felt in each bullying instance. This emboldened the bully and he continued right after the useless circle. Now the bully was affirmed that his tactics were emotionally disturbing DC.

+1 Yep, it revictimizes the victim! The bully wins again!

Your DC could have declined RJ.

Is it an option to decline RJ, or just an option for the victim to decline participating in the aspect of RJ that involves a dialogue with the bully? And how much information are bullied students provided in order to make an informed choice about their options, or is there tacit pressure to be a good sport and participate?

"Participating in a Restorative Justice process is voluntary for all parties."

Given that it’s victim based, if there is no victim to participate then there is no RJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When can we fire Dr Reid and send her back to Washington State where she belongs? Keep her PNW to herself.

+1000 This is such bullshit

Why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is just an extension of ongoing DEI virtue signaling with approaches that are not backed by evidence. It's also disturbing that it's just asserted that there are disparities in discipline. I would be willing to bet that the data do not support this. If anything students from certain groups are probably more likely to get handled with kid gloves than given consequences that might actually improve their behavior and/or the school environment. It's f'd up that families are expected to just stand by and tolerate an increasingly unsafe environment for their kids in the name of social justice.

You're really trying to rebut their "no evidence" with your own "no evidence"?

You aren't willing to bet unless you actually bet.

DP. FCPS publishes discipline statistics for schools and demographics - and they've changed. Suspensions for white children have increased and suspensions for Black children have significantly dropped. Has the behavior of the all children changed dramatically? That is unreported.

+1. I'm the PP who "betted" that there are no disparities in discipline. The claim that there are disparities rests on the notion that students of certain racial backgrounds (black, hispanic) are disproportionately targeted and punished for behavior, because of their race. This is asserted as fact because of correlational data, disregarding the possibility that, actually, kids in these groups actually are acting up more. The ideology does not allow for this to be spoken or acknowledged. I see this in research as well, which has a strong left-wing bias. The only way you'd know if students were disproportionately targeted is if you assessed if students with the exact same history and same behaviors were given different punishments. This study has not been done.

No, not “targeted.” The point of the research is the bias is much more subtle than that.

It also patterns incarceration in the justice system.

Gee, I wonder why...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is just an extension of ongoing DEI virtue signaling with approaches that are not backed by evidence. It's also disturbing that it's just asserted that there are disparities in discipline. I would be willing to bet that the data do not support this. If anything students from certain groups are probably more likely to get handled with kid gloves than given consequences that might actually improve their behavior and/or the school environment. It's f'd up that families are expected to just stand by and tolerate an increasingly unsafe environment for their kids in the name of social justice.

You're really trying to rebut their "no evidence" with your own "no evidence"?

You aren't willing to bet unless you actually bet.

Uh, ok...? I actually do research in a related area and I can tell you that the data are correlational at best. There's no good evidence that students are targeted because of their race. It's impossible to get that data because they are confounded. I'm sorry if you do not know what that means. You can go back to your daytime talk show now.

Funny how your research is sacrosanct but the school districts' research is invalid.

DP. All education research is bs. The worst of the worst for the soft sciences.

Yup...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They tried Restorative Justice circle with DC’s bully last year and the bullying continued anyway afterwards. I also felt bad for DC who was forced to face victim and tell him how he felt in each bullying instance. This emboldened the bully and he continued right after the useless circle. Now the bully was affirmed that his tactics were emotionally disturbing DC.

It seems like this process frequently fails in school settings. And, it re-victimizes the victim by making them re-live the bullying incident, which must be sort of humiliating (especially in front of some FCPS employee).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When can we fire Dr Reid and send her back to Washington State where she belongs? Keep her PNW to herself.

+ 1000. Why Republicans are needed on the school board.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When can we fire Dr Reid and send her back to Washington State where she belongs? Keep her PNW to herself.

+1000 This is such bullshit

Her term shall expire June 30, 2026, unless terminated sooner by SB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They tried Restorative Justice circle with DC’s bully last year and the bullying continued anyway afterwards. I also felt bad for DC who was forced to face victim and tell him how he felt in each bullying instance. This emboldened the bully and he continued right after the useless circle. Now the bully was affirmed that his tactics were emotionally disturbing DC.

It seems like this process frequently fails in school settings. And, it re-victimizes the victim by making them re-live the bullying incident, which must be sort of humiliating (especially in front of some FCPS employee).

Citation?

It's all voluntary - if the victim doesn't want to do it then they don't do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They tried Restorative Justice circle with DC’s bully last year and the bullying continued anyway afterwards. I also felt bad for DC who was forced to face victim and tell him how he felt in each bullying instance. This emboldened the bully and he continued right after the useless circle. Now the bully was affirmed that his tactics were emotionally disturbing DC.

+1 Yep, it revictimizes the victim! The bully wins again!

Your DC could have declined RJ.

These elementary kids and parents don’t even know what it is. Then it’s the only thing that the principal calls up and asks the parent, “Is it ok to hold a RJ?” The parent would be perceived negatively to decline at this point. There is sort of a pressure there for the parent to say yes. No other consequence is being offered by the principal for the bully. The principal poses it as a great plan. The parent would appear oppositional at this point. So, it’s not as easy to decline as one might think (especially if you are ignorant of the whole idea).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Reid says she is implementing “restorative justice.”

This is a portion of Michelle Reid’s weekly update sent to FCPS parents:

"The second initiative is our Restorative Justice Program’s new Responsible Pathway to Restorative Justice Facilitation. This pathway program will enable trained and endorsed members of Team FCPS to operate as school-based restorative justice facilitators. By this time next year, our goal is to have two of these facilitators in each of our schools. I’m thrilled about this program and how it will support us to provide excellence, equity, and opportunity for each and every one of our students, especially those impacted by discipline disparities. [i] As I shared with the principals on Thursday, I know there likely are a lot of questions about these two initiatives! More information on our Instructional Rounds and the Responsible Pathway to Restorative Justice Facilitation will be made available in the coming weeks; stay tuned!"

Do you think this is a good idea? Will this new approach increase or decrease crime in your child’s school?

Cool. That's good. It will actually solve behavioral issues instead of just putting them off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have had a rise in discipline issues at our local schools post pandemic "school"

Honestly, the kids involved need their phones taken away and if they cannot behave, school suspension/expulsions.

They don't need to revictimize victims by forcing them to talk to their bullies and troublemakers, nor do the troublemakers need to kumbaya circle of affirmation.

What a stupid idea. Hoping and praying that at least some school board seats flip from dems to republican next week at the school board elections. We need to pull this crazy far left pendulum back towards the center.

+100
Early voting is open!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They tried Restorative Justice circle with DC’s bully last year and the bullying continued anyway afterwards. I also felt bad for DC who was forced to face victim and tell him how he felt in each bullying instance. This emboldened the bully and he continued right after the useless circle. Now the bully was affirmed that his tactics were emotionally disturbing DC.

+1 Yep, it revictimizes the victim! The bully wins again!

Your DC could have declined RJ.

These elementary kids and parents don’t even know what it is. Then it’s the only thing that the principal calls up and asks the parent, “Is it ok to hold a RJ?” The parent would be perceived negatively to decline at this point. There is sort of a pressure there for the parent to say yes. No other consequence is being offered by the principal for the bully. The principal poses it as a great plan. The parent would appear oppositional at this point. So, it’s not as easy to decline as one might think (especially if you are ignorant of the whole idea).

No one is "forced" to face the victim.

And of course there will be an alternate consequence if RJ doesn't happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have had a rise in discipline issues at our local schools post pandemic "school"

Honestly, the kids involved need their phones taken away and if they cannot behave, school suspension/expulsions.

They don't need to revictimize victims by forcing them to talk to their bullies and troublemakers, nor do the troublemakers need to kumbaya circle of affirmation.

What a stupid idea. Hoping and praying that at least some school board seats flip from dems to republican next week at the school board elections. We need to pull this crazy far left pendulum back towards the center.

+100
Early voting is open!

Republicans:
I don't know what this is but it seems like an easy way to bash the current school board.
F yeah!