Dr. Reid replacing school discipline with “restorative justice” ?

[Anonymous]

The voters have made their choice, and the populace will adapt.

Why should we be any different from New York, where rich people of all political parties and none cluster in a handful of “good” government schools or pay tens of thousands for private?

Time to invest in tutoring companies and opening new privates. The demand is there and will only grow.

[Anonymous]

The last SB meeting announced a lot of $$ going into RJ training. So RJ is in place, but no training has been provided? How is that working out?

[Anonymous]

Restorative Justice is not new. It's been around in FCPS for at least the past 15 years, and you just haven't been paying attention. Stop the dramatics, please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Restorative justice is an awful idea that empowers the bullies and trouble makers, weakens the teachers and administrators, and puts the burden for bad behavior on the kids who behave.

Restorative justice Does. Not. Work.

It can. It just doesn’t work well in schools and the training for it is terrible.

Teachers absolutely hate it. The lack of consequences for bad behavior is fueling major burnout.

You have to be a troll. All we’re doing is consequences. There is so much documentation and procedural work. RJ is not replacing consequences. It’s in ADDITION to consequences.
—exhausted FCPS administrator

Another clueless admin. who doesn’t get things are reaching a tipping point. Teachers don’t want to keep teaching when NOTHING happens to so many students. Teachers are being cussed at, attacked, and constantly interrupted by students in class, or students wandering in and out of classrooms. We see students being mercilessly bullied. We see students fighting and they go to the office and are sent back to class with some candy.

I'd like to know what school this is, because I have a kid at Robinson and it's definitely not like that. My son has never seen any teacher cussed at or attacked, and says that there isn't much interruption at all and kids definitely don't wander in and out of classrooms without a hall pass. So please, tell us where this terrible place is so we can avoid it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The voters have made their choice, and the populace will adapt.

Why should we be any different from New York, where rich people of all political parties and none cluster in a handful of “good” government schools or pay tens of thousands for private?

Time to invest in tutoring companies and opening new privates. The demand is there and will only grow.

You clearly have no idea how private schools work. They’re only a solution to making lots of money for a small number of people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the new education catch phrase to deal with problem students and it’s crap. All the teachers know it. We just want to teach.

Who thought of this?
I didn’t sign up to be a therapist.

Signed,
a fed up teacher.

Who? DEMOCRATS - that’s who.

If you vote for any democrat for the school board, you are literally voting to destroy FCPS.

Support teachers! VOTE REPUBLICAN!

That’s the irony of it all.
This is the design of the democrats who are in control of higher level education and schools of thought there.
They like the idea of schools as counseling centers where teachers are the compassionate therapists who use their influence to shape the ideaology of the next generation. They call it educating the whole student, but it seems to be at the expense of educating them IN core subject matter.

Teachers and admins who come out of that system are all in with Democrat theories of “restorative justice” and teachers as therapists and all kinds of “solutions” that involve having teachers attempt to repair the social issues students face as a result of Democrat societal devaluing of the nuclear family and turn the government into “daddy.”
But in this shift, they forgot to let the *effective* teachers (who have been in the classroom for decades) in on this grand plan, and those teachers know that they can’t teach core subjects if there is no accountability or expectation that students will be responsible for their part in their own education. At the very minimum, the teacher should be able to count on support for expecting that a student not be disruptive and disrespectful.
And when they are finding that isn’t the case anymore, teachers are leaving.
And what’s left is teachers who care about counseling kids in crisis and giving 1000 opportunities for do-overs and having a therapy session instead of detention, and who want to take on the role of social worker and advocacy agent of social justice. And that makes for a great lifetime movie if your school is homogeneously made up entirely of failing kids from bad neighborhoods whose home life is full of dysfunctional challenges…………..but it doesn’t work so well in the average FCPS school if the goal is to keep up standards of academic rigor and uphold an environment where students who want to learn have a classroom/school and teachers who are able to focus on teaching content.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Restorative Justice is not new. It's been around in FCPS for at least the past 15 years, and you just haven't been paying attention. Stop the dramatics, please.

Some people just like to be “outraged” over whatever they can scrape up.

[Anonymous]

I'd like to know what school this is, because I have a kid at Robinson and it's definitely not like that. My son has never seen any teacher cussed at or attacked, and says that there isn't much interruption at all and kids definitely don't wander in and out of classrooms without a hall pass. So please, tell us where this terrible place is so we can avoid it.

It definitely happens in elementary schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'd like to know what school this is, because I have a kid at Robinson and it's definitely not like that. My son has never seen any teacher cussed at or attacked, and says that there isn't much interruption at all and kids definitely don't wander in and out of classrooms without a hall pass. So please, tell us where this terrible place is so we can avoid it.

It definitely happens in elementary schools.

Which ones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the new education catch phrase to deal with problem students and it’s crap. All the teachers know it. We just want to teach.

Who thought of this?
I didn’t sign up to be a therapist.

Signed,
a fed up teacher.

Who? DEMOCRATS - that’s who.

If you vote for any democrat for the school board, you are literally voting to destroy FCPS.

Support teachers! VOTE REPUBLICAN!

That’s the irony of it all.
This is the design of the democrats who are in control of higher level education and schools of thought there.
They like the idea of schools as counseling centers where teachers are the compassionate therapists who use their influence to shape the ideaology of the next generation. They call it educating the whole student, but it seems to be at the expense of educating them IN core subject matter.

Teachers and admins who come out of that system are all in with Democrat theories of “restorative justice” and teachers as therapists and all kinds of “solutions” that involve having teachers attempt to repair the social issues students face as a result of Democrat societal devaluing of the nuclear family and turn the government into “daddy.”
But in this shift, they forgot to let the *effective* teachers (who have been in the classroom for decades) in on this grand plan, and those teachers know that they can’t teach core subjects if there is no accountability or expectation that students will be responsible for their part in their own education. At the very minimum, the teacher should be able to count on support for expecting that a student not be disruptive and disrespectful.
And when they are finding that isn’t the case anymore, teachers are leaving.
And what’s left is teachers who care about counseling kids in crisis and giving 1000 opportunities for do-overs and having a therapy session instead of detention, and who want to take on the role of social worker and advocacy agent of social justice. And that makes for a great lifetime movie if your school is homogeneously made up entirely of failing kids from bad neighborhoods whose home life is full of dysfunctional challenges…………..but it doesn’t work so well in the average FCPS school if the goal is to keep up standards of academic rigor and uphold an environment where students who want to learn have a classroom/school and teachers who are able to focus on teaching content.

You sound like someone who has never worked in a school and actually has no idea how they operate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'd like to know what school this is, because I have a kid at Robinson and it's definitely not like that. My son has never seen any teacher cussed at or attacked, and says that there isn't much interruption at all and kids definitely don't wander in and out of classrooms without a hall pass. So please, tell us where this terrible place is so we can avoid it.

It definitely happens in elementary schools.

Which ones, please? I worked in one for nearly 10 years, and my son went to another, and with the exception of some isolate incidents - and the ED Center's self-contained classes - these things did not happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the new education catch phrase to deal with problem students and it’s crap. All the teachers know it. We just want to teach.

Who thought of this?
I didn’t sign up to be a therapist.

Signed,
a fed up teacher.

Who? DEMOCRATS - that’s who.

If you vote for any democrat for the school board, you are literally voting to destroy FCPS.

Support teachers! VOTE REPUBLICAN!

That’s the irony of it all.
This is the design of the democrats who are in control of higher level education and schools of thought there.
They like the idea of schools as counseling centers where teachers are the compassionate therapists who use their influence to shape the ideaology of the next generation. They call it educating the whole student, but it seems to be at the expense of educating them IN core subject matter.

Teachers and admins who come out of that system are all in with Democrat theories of “restorative justice” and teachers as therapists and all kinds of “solutions” that involve having teachers attempt to repair the social issues students face as a result of Democrat societal devaluing of the nuclear family and turn the government into “daddy.”
But in this shift, they forgot to let the *effective* teachers (who have been in the classroom for decades) in on this grand plan, and those teachers know that they can’t teach core subjects if there is no accountability or expectation that students will be responsible for their part in their own education. At the very minimum, the teacher should be able to count on support for expecting that a student not be disruptive and disrespectful.
And when they are finding that isn’t the case anymore, teachers are leaving.
And what’s left is teachers who care about counseling kids in crisis and giving 1000 opportunities for do-overs and having a therapy session instead of detention, and who want to take on the role of social worker and advocacy agent of social justice. And that makes for a great lifetime movie if your school is homogeneously made up entirely of failing kids from bad neighborhoods whose home life is full of dysfunctional challenges…………..but it doesn’t work so well in the average FCPS school if the goal is to keep up standards of academic rigor and uphold an environment where students who want to learn have a classroom/school and teachers who are able to focus on teaching content.

Very on point, and especially true for elementary and middle school.

Basically, many parents have figured out that school is essentially a giant waste of time for kids; nowadays it's mostly just a place to socialize with friends while the teachers try to babysit in a respectful way while pretending they're teaching them important things. Kindergarten/first grade is still ok because the kids are mostly still curious and the teachers actually do have to teach them basic reading and math skills. But by 2nd grade they've become indoctrinated into the start of the crazy 'curriculum' and rightfully realize it's all boring and neither very meaningful, nor challenging in any way. The lucky kids get the actual teaching experience after they come home.

[Anonymous]

Wow! Lots of posts with agendas and hysteria being posted here!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the new education catch phrase to deal with problem students and it’s crap. All the teachers know it. We just want to teach.

Who thought of this?
I didn’t sign up to be a therapist.

Signed,
a fed up teacher.

Who? DEMOCRATS - that’s who.

If you vote for any democrat for the school board, you are literally voting to destroy FCPS.

Support teachers! VOTE REPUBLICAN!

That’s the irony of it all.
This is the design of the democrats who are in control of higher level education and schools of thought there.
They like the idea of schools as counseling centers where teachers are the compassionate therapists who use their influence to shape the ideaology of the next generation. They call it educating the whole student, but it seems to be at the expense of educating them IN core subject matter.

Teachers and admins who come out of that system are all in with Democrat theories of “restorative justice” and teachers as therapists and all kinds of “solutions” that involve having teachers attempt to repair the social issues students face as a result of Democrat societal devaluing of the nuclear family and turn the government into “daddy.”
But in this shift, they forgot to let the *effective* teachers (who have been in the classroom for decades) in on this grand plan, and those teachers know that they can’t teach core subjects if there is no accountability or expectation that students will be responsible for their part in their own education. At the very minimum, the teacher should be able to count on support for expecting that a student not be disruptive and disrespectful.
And when they are finding that isn’t the case anymore, teachers are leaving.
And what’s left is teachers who care about counseling kids in crisis and giving 1000 opportunities for do-overs and having a therapy session instead of detention, and who want to take on the role of social worker and advocacy agent of social justice. And that makes for a great lifetime movie if your school is homogeneously made up entirely of failing kids from bad neighborhoods whose home life is full of dysfunctional challenges…………..but it doesn’t work so well in the average FCPS school if the goal is to keep up standards of academic rigor and uphold an environment where students who want to learn have a classroom/school and teachers who are able to focus on teaching content.

Very on point, and especially true for elementary and middle school.

Basically, many parents have figured out that school is essentially a giant waste of time for kids; nowadays it's mostly just a place to socialize with friends while the teachers try to babysit in a respectful way while pretending they're teaching them important things. Kindergarten/first grade is still ok because the kids are mostly still curious and the teachers actually do have to teach them basic reading and math skills. But by 2nd grade they've become indoctrinated into the start of the crazy 'curriculum' and rightfully realize it's all boring and neither very meaningful, nor challenging in any way. The lucky kids get the actual teaching experience after they come home.

And yet, these same people were screaming the loudest to get their kids back into classrooms during Covid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the new education catch phrase to deal with problem students and it’s crap. All the teachers know it. We just want to teach.

Who thought of this?
I didn’t sign up to be a therapist.

Signed,
a fed up teacher.

Who? DEMOCRATS - that’s who.

If you vote for any democrat for the school board, you are literally voting to destroy FCPS.

Support teachers! VOTE REPUBLICAN!

That’s the irony of it all.
This is the design of the democrats who are in control of higher level education and schools of thought there.
They like the idea of schools as counseling centers where teachers are the compassionate therapists who use their influence to shape the ideaology of the next generation. They call it educating the whole student, but it seems to be at the expense of educating them IN core subject matter.

Teachers and admins who come out of that system are all in with Democrat theories of “restorative justice” and teachers as therapists and all kinds of “solutions” that involve having teachers attempt to repair the social issues students face as a result of Democrat societal devaluing of the nuclear family and turn the government into “daddy.”
But in this shift, they forgot to let the *effective* teachers (who have been in the classroom for decades) in on this grand plan, and those teachers know that they can’t teach core subjects if there is no accountability or expectation that students will be responsible for their part in their own education. At the very minimum, the teacher should be able to count on support for expecting that a student not be disruptive and disrespectful.
And when they are finding that isn’t the case anymore, teachers are leaving.
And what’s left is teachers who care about counseling kids in crisis and giving 1000 opportunities for do-overs and having a therapy session instead of detention, and who want to take on the role of social worker and advocacy agent of social justice. And that makes for a great lifetime movie if your school is homogeneously made up entirely of failing kids from bad neighborhoods whose home life is full of dysfunctional challenges…………..but it doesn’t work so well in the average FCPS school if the goal is to keep up standards of academic rigor and uphold an environment where students who want to learn have a classroom/school and teachers who are able to focus on teaching content.

Come back after you learn how to spell.