Woman missing after reporting seeing a toddler on the highway

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM armchair detectives have way too much time on their hands (looking up traffic cam videos, aerial views, Reddit, average income of Hoover, AL, etc).

They are getting it all from Websleuths. THOSE people have too much time on their hands. Its clear some of them literally spend hours a day websleuthing.

Allow me to introduce you to the 30 second Google search.

I spent part of my time growing up in Mountain Brook, and I know Hoover. Worked there as a teenager. The actual numbers are easy to find -- you don't have to dust off the card catalogue anymore, you know.

Mountain brook is right next door.
Natalie Halloway?!?

Nope! I was in the "slums" of Mountain Brook, just the outskirts. Just far enough in to make it to the school system.

I worked as a serf at the country club. You wouldn't know me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not adding up based on that video. She didn’t see a toddler at all or else she would not have slowly rolled down the shoulder so far. She is having some sort of mental issue. You guys are just too much with your fantastical scenarios about criminals using a toddler to lure a random woman. Get a grip. That is not a thing.

She probably got off at the exit and turned back around to take another look. If she u-turned on the highway, she could’ve been back in the same spot in about five minutes, driving slowly until she saw the person again.

I did this when I thought I saw an injured animal and would 100 percent go back if I thought I saw a child. However, I think the child was actually an adult and she probably stumbled upon some illegal activity.

There is one car that brakes as if if the driver sees something that looks off. I’m sure the police have received more info from other motorists that night but aren’t making anything public.

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Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

I can see that, but dragging away a struggling 160lb women bathed in headlights and flashers next to relatively slow-moving traffic, after she started screaming? (The phone was still in her car when the police drove up, minutes after she stopped.) I think it would be noticed. It would almost certainly be picked up on one of the passing semi's dash cams.

I think there is a lot of this that does not add up, and I hope she is found safe and sound. Maybe having gone through that pipe of her own volition, maybe not. Hopefully safe either way.

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Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

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Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

If she fell, where is she now? They have combed that whole area with police, dogs, and volunteers.

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Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

That would explain a sudden scream and then no more contact. Praying she’s found and will be okay.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/carlee-russell-what-we-know-today-about-woman-who-vanished-on-i-459-in-hoover.html

Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

If she fell, where is she now? They have combed that whole area with police, dogs, and volunteers.

Maybe she feel and passed out. Woke up later walked toward the highway and was hit. She wouldn’t be in the area they would have to expand the search area

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/carlee-russell-what-we-know-today-about-woman-who-vanished-on-i-459-in-hoover.html

Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

If she fell, where is she now? They have combed that whole area with police, dogs, and volunteers.

Maybe she feel and passed out. Woke up later walked toward the highway and was hit. She wouldn’t be in the area they would have to expand the search area

Please go look up the area. It’s not rural or remote. There is nowhere to pass out and wake up later and be hit. This is not that type of area nor roadway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not adding up based on that video. She didn’t see a toddler at all or else she would not have slowly rolled down the shoulder so far. She is having some sort of mental issue. You guys are just too much with your fantastical scenarios about criminals using a toddler to lure a random woman. Get a grip. That is not a thing.

Educate yourself.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/sanfrancisco/news/oakland-kidnappings-black-girls-young-women-ebony-alert/

https://www.kcur.org/news/2022-12-27/as-black-women-go-missing-in-kansas-city-black-community-looks-to-itself-for-solutions



https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/show/woman-who-escaped-kidnapper-highlights-often-ignored-plight-of-missing-black-women

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/carlee-russell-what-we-know-today-about-woman-who-vanished-on-i-459-in-hoover.html

Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

If she fell, where is she now? They have combed that whole area with police, dogs, and volunteers.

Maybe she feel and passed out. Woke up later walked toward the highway and was hit. She wouldn’t be in the area they would have to expand the search area

The police arrived three minutes later. Wouldn’t they have seen her if she fell?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/carlee-russell-what-we-know-today-about-woman-who-vanished-on-i-459-in-hoover.html

Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

If she fell, where is she now? They have combed that whole area with police, dogs, and volunteers.

Maybe she feel and passed out. Woke up later walked toward the highway and was hit. She wouldn’t be in the area they would have to expand the search area

The police arrived three minutes later. Wouldn’t they have seen her if she fell?

I thought they were implying that she fell into the drainage pipe or a deep hole near it. If she traversed the drainage pipe, looking for a way out or was knocked unconscious by a fall or drowned inside it, there wouldn’t have been anything to see or hear.

[Anonymous]

I know a PP posted about the problem of abductions and attempted abductions of Black girls and young women, which is an incredibly underreported problem -- but is there any other case where someone disappears in 3-4 minutes, lured off the road by a toddler?

Is there any other case like this at all? Those stories seem to be about very different cases than this.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/carlee-russell-what-we-know-today-about-woman-who-vanished-on-i-459-in-hoover.html

Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

If she fell, where is she now? They have combed that whole area with police, dogs, and volunteers.

Maybe she feel and passed out. Woke up later walked toward the highway and was hit. She wouldn’t be in the area they would have to expand the search area

The police arrived three minutes later. Wouldn’t they have seen her if she fell?

I thought they were implying that she fell into the drainage pipe or a deep hole near it. If she traversed the drainage pipe, looking for a way out or was knocked unconscious by a fall or drowned inside it, there wouldn’t have been anything to see or hear.

They have combed the area for miles around, including the length of the drainage pipe. There is no water in it and no recent rain. No holes in the ground found, either. So she happened to slip and fall into a hole that is neither visible nor can be scented by rescue dogs, or she lost her memory from the fall, traversed the pipe, and is wandering in a residential area without her memory but not being seen or noticed by anybody?

I'm trying to see any way this fits.

[Anonymous]

People don’t just vanish without a trace. You all act like this woman pulled a Jason Bourne or something. Someone took her.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.al.com/news/2023/07/carlee-russell-what-we-know-today-about-woman-who-vanished-on-i-459-in-hoover.html

Russell is a Black female, 5-feet, 4-inches tall and weighs between 150 and 160 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black shirt, black pants, and white Nike shoes.

She's about average height for a woman and about 150-160 lbs. That's not someone easy to quickly pick up and just whisk away, especially if she were struggling. I mean, maybe? But that brush is thick, and there were police going through the area with K-9 units. If it was a wild animal that moved that fast, there would be signs of the struggle.

I could see it if she walked down into the woods, but it's pretty tight and dense brush down there. Still, if she were chasing a child? But she was on the phone when she screamed, and the traffic background noise remained loud, from the family's public statement. Like, really loud.

I just don't see how ~42 cars (in less than 4 minutes) with headlights on, passing feet away, could miss a struggling 150-160 lb woman, especially with the flashers drawing their attention to look that way. And even if they did miss it, there is only so far you could go in that dense brush. If she were pulled through to a car waiting in the next road over, that vehicle would be caught on someone's Ring camera or other traffic camera. It's a pretty well-to-do residential area.

Reddit is reporting that there is an 8 foot diameter drainage pipe that runs under the freeway at this exact point. She have been dragged through the tunnel to the other side of the highway (or run through by her own volition).

Meaning she fell???

Why would anyone abduct her I think fell is most likely.

If she fell, where is she now? They have combed that whole area with police, dogs, and volunteers.

Maybe she feel and passed out. Woke up later walked toward the highway and was hit. She wouldn’t be in the area they would have to expand the search area

The police arrived three minutes later. Wouldn’t they have seen her if she fell?

I thought they were implying that she fell into the drainage pipe or a deep hole near it. If she traversed the drainage pipe, looking for a way out or was knocked unconscious by a fall or drowned inside it, there wouldn’t have been anything to see or hear.

They have combed the area for miles around, including the length of the drainage pipe. There is no water in it and no recent rain. No holes in the ground found, either. So she happened to slip and fall into a hole that is neither visible nor can be scented by rescue dogs, or she lost her memory from the fall, traversed the pipe, and is wandering in a residential area without her memory but not being seen or noticed by anybody?

I'm trying to see any way this fits.

Yeah but I have seen plenty of stories of how they do searches with dogs and find nothing. Then months even years later the person is going literally steps from where they disappeared