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The community really tried!!! They rallied around the principal central office was moving; had a student AND a community petition, had meetings, ect. Everything was dismissed and essentially fell on deaf ears. Central office does what central office wants. They are the worst. |
At the parent meeting last night, it was stated that 0% of teachers were planning on leaving in February, when they were last surveyed. Now 25% are leaving. What has changed so much in 4 months? And yes, I am aware that leaving is not a snap decision. How many times have fellow parents also been stuck in a less-than-optimal position at their job? Most disgruntled employees just grumble and vent to colleagues over lunch. I've been there, done that. So what you're telling us is, these are just the ones that managed to get out. Shall we expect an even bigger exodus next year? |
100. We are blessed to have a principal exactly like this (at a different MCPS school) and the school has great energy: teachers, students, parents, admin all relaxed and happy and working together. Unfortunately this does not seem to be the case with your principal. Just pointing out that a principal does not have to behave in that manner and the community is not crazy to be deeply concerned, despite what appears to be the principal’s attempt at gaslighting. |
10 already left and 30 still there. does not mean the 30 teachers will NOT leave. They might already start looking for job |
BTDT. Left school A with an abusive principal after 5 years because we had no idea that Central Office was removing him. 25 staff departed. But my tongue in every interview. Landed at school B, which I liked. But I was surplussed at the end of the year due to my hire date. Landed at school C, which I also liked. Again surplussed at the end of the year. Landed at school D, which was an insane asylum. But I wasn’t the person with the least seniority so I tried to tough it out. I would consider openings but then look at the department to figure out if I would be “the new guy” and at risk of being surplussed. School D brought in an unhinged principal. 75% of my department left so I fled, too. School E has been tranquil until this year when we got a new principal who is a dictator. I am weary. |
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It sounds like a hot mess over there but the point about the meeting being locked to MCPS-only accounts as some kind of nefarious plot is completely off the mark. MCPS Zoom accounts have always been locked down so only MCPS email addresses can log in, since early 2020. It's a systemwide setting and schools can't change it. It's for security and to block Zoom-bombing by trolls, not a new plot against Lakewood ES parents. They should have communicated better that you needed to be on your child's account to log in, but locking the meeting like that has been standard and unchangeable for years.
As for recording it, no. You must be joking. It is 100% guaranteed in 2023 that some unhinged parent would share it around and somebody would take snips from it and blast it on TikTok or Twitter and the lunatic fringe from 4chan would SWAT the school in an anti-DEI frenzy or something. Public discourse is in the gutter. I don't blame them for not providing loaded weapons to use against themselves. People these days get very angry about everything and can't be trusted. It doesn't mean that everybody in this thread doesn't have very valid concerns and that things aren't being poorly run over there, but those specific criticisms I think are not well-made. |
I work for the Virtual Academy, and there is a setting MCPS enabled so that we can unlock that setting. We do that for equitable purposes as well as record meetings outside of the school setting for parents (again, equity). This principal was doing her own thing. People are right to be upset. |
I stand corrected. But I still don't think it was out of line not to do so. People have lost their minds about education and civilized behavior. Recording innocuous Virtual Academy sessions is different. Do you actually think somebody wouldn't have shared snippets of a recording around to "just a few people" and the next thing you know, it's a TikTok meme and the phones are deluged with hate calls? Really? |
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So she had a right not to be recorded for fear of being ridiculed? It’s HER JOB to address and inform the community. Since so many people wanted to join the call but were not able to log in, that 100% warrants recording the meeting. There’s a lot to be said if the principal can’t even handle that responsibility. |
Agreed. Our Principal records meetings like this and makes them available afterwards for parents who are unable to attend. You know, it’s the Equitable thing to do. Some parents might work, or not be able to attend the meetings. If anything, the meetings should be recorded in the name of Equity. This principal sounds like a hypocrite. |
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I think it really comes down to having exit interviews for departing staff (at Lakewood and all schools). The county should have a way to determine if teachers are fleeing a school due to a principal or for a myriad of other reasons. If teachers are fleeing the school, then the central office absolutely should intervene. There is a HUGE teacher shortage and the last thing that is needed is for MCPS not to be able to retain the talent that they have due to a principal.
I do not work at this school, but at another MCPS elementary school that is also seeing a lot of fleeing staff. At our school, it is absolutely tied to a weak principal but also due to county policies around not being able to discipline children who are physically and mentally abusing teachers and other students. Each day is a struggle to get through even if I never see the principal. I think this is equally important for the central office to know that their policies are not evening out the playing field, but instead making kids feel that school is not a safe place. |
| One LFI parent expressed that she wanted to join the meeting and was unable to. Expecting that any and all parents could just ask their child for MCPS credentials so they can log in and join the meeting is absolutely an equity issue. |
They don’t even seem to do surveys anymore. If one was done this year, it wasn’t published. I think a lot of principals were hemorrhaging teachers before the pandemic but now can blame it on that. Rarely is anything done to improve the working conditions for teachers in schools with ineffective leaders. |
Exactly, MCPS doesn’t seem to care at all. After seeing so many complaints from parents, her boss director Michelle Schultze still came out to fully support her and told the community the Principal did nothing wrong. It’s just beyond ridiculous. |