I truly do not understand the anti WFH sentiment

[Anonymous]

A lot of people are referencing 9 hour days, like this is the standard. I always thought 8 hours was the standard? My job is actually 7 hours per day, but I know that isn't super common. 9 hours seems like a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it's killing my marriage very slowly..... It is a big turn off seeing him lay around him bed all day

if he's laying in bed all day the problem is not work from home, it's not work at all and not even get out of bed.

+1

DH and I each have dedicated office space on different levels of the house. He is on calls more than me so tends to dress somewhat put together (like a nice Henley and chinos). I’m not on camera and tend to wrap up my day by 3:30 to get the kids from school and go to the park/play dates so I’m a bit more into athleisure/t-shirt dress/leggings and fitted top etc. But we always make beds, get dressed, and have ourselves and the house put together during the workday. Someone in bed all day sounds depressed, unambitious, or both.

Now if you were in office I would have you work till 530 or six every day so your job is out 10-12 hours each week. That is a bigger driver RTO people at home should work more not less hours.

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Anonymous wrote:So I stopped WFH and one staff was gob smacked.

Was in my office like 3 hours on and off.

By end of day I discovered he started two side businesses, his wife is also WFH, he got two younger kids to get on bus, off bus and to make snacks and he has some medical conditions where he runs to doctor a lot during work day. Even more amazing his wife not only is full time WFH but also on side sells AFLAC.

He also moved cheap area two hours from work. Guess what he has 9 hours in office r everyday and four hours commuting. That is 13 hours a day. His pyramid is collapsing.

I am going to re-roll out hybrid and WFH after these free loaders are flushed out

I mean obviously the side businesses are a bit sketch. But if he was previously hitting all work goals while also able to manage his chronic health issues and get his kids to school without needing to pay for before/aftercare, I’m not sure why you would care about that? It’s like some employers just want robots for hire and don’t even see their employees as actual people with their own personal needs.

If he was a low performer then you have a substantive issue. But that isn’t necessarily due to WFH.

He is not meeting his metrics at all. Honestly too much distractions at home. He needs to sit at his desk 8 hours distraction free. His house sounds like a circus. I don’t WFH, my boss does not WFH so he is useless to me outside of 830 to 530 and at home he can’t focus

If you’re going to keep faking that you manage people, please learn English. “Too much distractions”?

[Anonymous]

Since I've WFH I can volunteer in our town more often, eat healthier food, work out more, and oh yeah am more productive than before. I go in every couple of weeks to have some facetime with the youngs and help them but I'd prefer they work from home and actually get stuff done rather than spend all day discussing their upcoming ping pong tournaments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11 pages of why boomers still can’t comprehend that some of us can do our jobs without having to sit in a cube or have small talk in the break room about sports or the weather.

As long as the work is getting done, none of that matters.

This is because a lot of boomer middle managers don't really contribute much to the companies they work for. They just walk around all day and "manage" (annoy) their subordinates, and schedule pointless meetings to waste everyone's time. They're concerned that if their bosses realize employees don't need this middle layer of deadwood to remain productive, they'll get rid of them.

[Anonymous]

If I had a job where going to the office and interacting with others made no difference in terms of doing the job or advancing professionally I’d look for another. Sitting in front of a computer in a makeshift office in my basement and having no human interaction all day besides my kids would depress and bore me to tears. It’s like you’ve decided to live like we’re in a pandemic for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11 pages of why boomers still can’t comprehend that some of us can do our jobs without having to sit in a cube or have small talk in the break room about sports or the weather.

As long as the work is getting done, none of that matters.

I honestly don't believe they are all boomers. I don't think this is a "boomer vs non-boomer" argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11 pages of why boomers still can’t comprehend that some of us can do our jobs without having to sit in a cube or have small talk in the break room about sports or the weather.

As long as the work is getting done, none of that matters.

The boomer bashing is getting old.

Just admit that you want to work from home because it’s easier for you and enables you to slack off without fear.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I had a job where going to the office and interacting with others made no difference in terms of doing the job or advancing professionally I’d look for another. Sitting in front of a computer in a makeshift office in my basement and having no human interaction all day besides my kids would depress and bore me to tears. It’s like you’ve decided to live like we’re in a pandemic for the rest of your life.

Some of us have hobbies, civic organizations, churches, etc where we get our interaction. You're not morally superior because you want yours through work.

[Anonymous]

I just met my buddy for lunch and we were laughing about good old days of remote with our 2-4 laptops out making mad money,

Six paychecks each month was sweet. I will miss it. My SS was crazy as doing it three jobs at once!!

Isn’t that enough reason to stop WFH? No one cares if fired when you have back up jobs. And bosses are stooooopid. I had balls to fire two people for overemployment while I had 3 jobs. No patience as I need them to do their work as I got three jobs and can’t babysit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just met my buddy for lunch and we were laughing about good old days of remote with our 2-4 laptops out making mad money,

Six paychecks each month was sweet. I will miss it. My SS was crazy as doing it three jobs at once!!

Isn’t that enough reason to stop WFH? No one cares if fired when you have back up jobs. And bosses are stooooopid. I had balls to fire two people for overemployment while I had 3 jobs. No patience as I need them to do their work as I got three jobs and can’t babysit

Crazies are out in full force. Maybe full moon.

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Anonymous wrote:11 pages of why boomers still can’t comprehend that some of us can do our jobs without having to sit in a cube or have small talk in the break room about sports or the weather.

As long as the work is getting done, none of that matters.

The boomer bashing is getting old.

Just admit that you want to work from home because it’s easier for you and enables you to slack off without fear.

PP. I'm a lawyer in private practice, so whether or not I'm being productive is easily apparent to my firm.

And working from home makes me more productive. I can start my workday when my kids are out the door at 7:30, and rather than wasting an hour or so every day commuting to and from work, I can actually bill time during what would otherwise be dead time.

Commuting to and from work just to sit in front of a different set of computer screens is inefficient.

(though I'm actually in the office right now because I needed logistical support from my secretary and a paralegal)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are referencing 9 hour days, like this is the standard. I always thought 8 hours was the standard? My job is actually 7 hours per day, but I know that isn't super common. 9 hours seems like a lot.

8-5 is 9 hours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are referencing 9 hour days, like this is the standard. I always thought 8 hours was the standard? My job is actually 7 hours per day, but I know that isn't super common. 9 hours seems like a lot.

8-5 is 9 hours.

Govt is 8.5 hr days

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I had a job where going to the office and interacting with others made no difference in terms of doing the job or advancing professionally I’d look for another. Sitting in front of a computer in a makeshift office in my basement and having no human interaction all day besides my kids would depress and bore me to tears. It’s like you’ve decided to live like we’re in a pandemic for the rest of your life.

Some of us have hobbies, civic organizations, churches, etc where we get our interaction. You're not morally superior because you want yours through work.

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Except if you’re doing any of that when you’re supposed to be working - and you know you are - then you’re morally inferior. In fact, you’re a cheater.

It also doesn’t change that fact that spending 8 to 10 hours a day in complete isolation is depressing.