Where are all the Ivy admits coming from you wonder? Dalton NYC 2023 Matriculations

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Anonymous wrote:DC was a "lifer" who graduated from Trinity. We are not billionaires nor are we well-connected or Prep for prep as common wisdom would have it. The academics at Trinity are intense, probably too intense, such that a GPA of 3.6 is considered really good. All classes are essentially taught at the college level. Not sure I would put my DC through it if we had to do it all over again.

Friend liked Trinity for her DC in younger years, but is over HS and thinks kid should have left.

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I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

I know tins of east and south asian multi-multi millionaires in NYC. New money hedge fund/PE people. It's not just wasp's these days who can be rich. That said, I agree w/ your bigger point. Why are these kids winning at the college lottery at Dalton vs. DC private school asian kids who did struggle this year with just one or two exceptions at our local DC private school

perhaps the NYC parents of asian kids donated more to colleges. Or perhaps those schools just have better college process/rigor/reputations w/ top 30 schools that our vaunted DC schools do

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

I know tins of east and south asian multi-multi millionaires in NYC. New money hedge fund/PE people. It's not just wasp's these days who can be rich. That said, I agree w/ your bigger point. Why are these kids winning at the college lottery at Dalton vs. DC private school asian kids who did struggle this year with just one or two exceptions at our local DC private school

perhaps the NYC parents of asian kids donated more to colleges. Or perhaps those schools just have better college process/rigor/reputations w/ top 30 schools that our vaunted DC schools do

Well I gathered that a Dalton class of 2023 POC parent is one of the top partners worldwide at an MBB so $$$$$$$

Which goes back to there being less money around here

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Parents’ NYT wedding announcements, private school alumni magazine birth announcements & webpages of guest lists for Ivy alum family dinners tell a story.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

Dalton has never been a WASP/old money school. It's always attracted celebrity kids and had a very high Jewish population. In NYC, WASPs send their kids to the single sex schools then to boarding school.

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Love the NY thread. The top publics are not nornal publics - its like have 8 TJs in NYC.

Specialized high schools are test-in high schools based on one test in 8th grade, the SHSAT, Something like 30,000 8th graders apply, take a one- shot 2 hour test, and Stuyvesant (arguably the top one) lets in 850 based on top scores and then a forced ranking the kid does when he applies). THE SHSAT is like a logic test - my kids took it and also got into Stuy, though they eventually went private. There are 8 or so schools like this. so the fact that this school (or one of the other 8, HSMSE) sends kids to the Ivy League is not surprising since they are already letting in the top academic performers under stress,.

This is also a problem because if you don't test well under pressure, you won't get into Stuy.

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Anonymous wrote:Love the NY thread. The top publics are not nornal publics - its like have 8 TJs in NYC.

Specialized high schools are test-in high schools based on one test in 8th grade, the SHSAT, Something like 30,000 8th graders apply, take a one- shot 2 hour test, and Stuyvesant (arguably the top one) lets in 850 based on top scores and then a forced ranking the kid does when he applies). THE SHSAT is like a logic test - my kids took it and also got into Stuy, though they eventually went private. There are 8 or so schools like this. so the fact that this school (or one of the other 8, HSMSE) sends kids to the Ivy League is not surprising since they are already letting in the top academic performers under stress,.

This is also a problem because if you don't test well under pressure, you won't get into Stuy.

What happens to academically average (such as, kids that will get 1000-1100 on the SAT when they take it) kids in NYC if they are middle class or poor? Guessing they go to charter schools, parochial or lottery into a random high school?

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

Some of Asians and Indians you see in the list are also legacies, so don't think it is just sheer hardwork. However, in addition to legacy these kids are very strong academically and are accomplished in some EC as well. At the TT privates in NYC, getting into HYP as a non legacy and non prep for prep is extremely difficult.

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I do think that the NYC transportation system allows the top public & private schools there to draw from a truly massive pool geographically. I don’t want to speculate too much on economic statuses based on race but I definitely do not think DC privates draw from anywhere close to that size of a pool, when perhaps they could attempt to draw bigger than they currently do.

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Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

Money is the word that you're looking for. Money has always mattered more than anything else in America.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love the NY thread. The top publics are not nornal publics - its like have 8 TJs in NYC.

Specialized high schools are test-in high schools based on one test in 8th grade, the SHSAT, Something like 30,000 8th graders apply, take a one- shot 2 hour test, and Stuyvesant (arguably the top one) lets in 850 based on top scores and then a forced ranking the kid does when he applies). THE SHSAT is like a logic test - my kids took it and also got into Stuy, though they eventually went private. There are 8 or so schools like this. so the fact that this school (or one of the other 8, HSMSE) sends kids to the Ivy League is not surprising since they are already letting in the top academic performers under stress,.

This is also a problem because if you don't test well under pressure, you won't get into Stuy.

What happens to academically average (such as, kids that will get 1000-1100 on the SAT when they take it) kids in NYC if they are middle class or poor? Guessing they go to charter schools, parochial or lottery into a random high school?

Most go to public schools; there are very few zoned schools, so most HS pull from all over the city. There are lots of schools for academically average kids.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

Dalton has never been a WASP/old money school. It's always attracted celebrity kids and had a very high Jewish population. In NYC, WASPs send their kids to the single sex schools then to boarding school.

This they go to Deerfield

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

I know tins of east and south asian multi-multi millionaires in NYC. New money hedge fund/PE people. It's not just wasp's these days who can be rich. That said, I agree w/ your bigger point. Why are these kids winning at the college lottery at Dalton vs. DC private school asian kids who did struggle this year with just one or two exceptions at our local DC private school

perhaps the NYC parents of asian kids donated more to colleges. Or perhaps those schools just have better college process/rigor/reputations w/ top 30 schools that our vaunted DC schools do

As an Indian-American,

Umc/rich Indian-Americans in New York are VERY different from Indian-Americans in Bethesda and NOVA

The former are way more polished the latter are way more dorkier

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually think it's kind of interesting to see that there are quite a few Indian and Asian surnames are in the Dalton group. That suggests that these are not WASP types with old money. So the parents of these Dalton kids were able to break into the upper echelons somehow, probably through sheer hard work, determination, and intelligence.

I know tins of east and south asian multi-multi millionaires in NYC. New money hedge fund/PE people. It's not just wasp's these days who can be rich. That said, I agree w/ your bigger point. Why are these kids winning at the college lottery at Dalton vs. DC private school asian kids who did struggle this year with just one or two exceptions at our local DC private school

perhaps the NYC parents of asian kids donated more to colleges. Or perhaps those schools just have better college process/rigor/reputations w/ top 30 schools that our vaunted DC schools do

IME the only place that still has that "old WASPY money" vibe in NYC is Chapin and the K-8 boys schools (excluding Allen Stevenson)