Why have conservatives become such mean spirited bigots?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

[Anonymous]

Because white southern conservatives took over the party. The label doesn't matter - Democrat, Republican, or other - white southern conservatives are always on the wrong side of American history.

[Anonymous]

Education: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_American_academics

Medicine:
https://www.abms.org/newsroom/abms-member-boards-advance-dei-efforts/

Journalism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States

"According to a study by Lars Willnat and David H. Weaver, professors of journalism at Indiana University, conducted via online interviews with 1,080 reporters between August and December 2013, 38.8% of US journalists identify as "leaning left" (28.1% identify as Democrats), 12.9% identify as "leaning right" (7.1% as Republicans), and 43.8% as "middle of the road" (50.2% as independents)"

(I'm sure in 10 years it has not moved rightward)

Tech:

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/big-tech-moves-to-the-right-silicon-valleys-embrace-of-conservatives

"The Information’s analysis of political giving by employees of Google, Apple, Amazon and Meta shows that 15% of donations have gone to Republican candidates or political action committees this election cycle. That figure is up from 5% in 2020 and 8% in 2018."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

All of them.

Face it, the right wants a world without science or facts and as a result demonize fact based insitutions - the media, medicine, tech, education...they want everyone worshiping Jesus and ignorant to anything but whatever ;dear leader" says.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

All of them.

Face it, the right wants a world without science or facts and as a result demonize fact based insitutions - the media, medicine, tech, education...they want everyone worshiping Jesus and ignorant to anything but whatever ;dear leader" says.

so to be clear, you're not disputing that the left dominates these sectors, which are obviously all in hot pursuit of eternal scientific truth, no matter what it does to profits

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Education: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_American_academics

Medicine:
https://www.abms.org/newsroom/abms-member-boards-advance-dei-efforts/

Is there something wrong with having more people of color in medicine?

Journalism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States

"According to a study by Lars Willnat and David H. Weaver, professors of journalism at Indiana University, conducted via online interviews with 1,080 reporters between August and December 2013, 38.8% of US journalists identify as "leaning left" (28.1% identify as Democrats), 12.9% identify as "leaning right" (7.1% as Republicans), and 43.8% as "middle of the road" (50.2% as independents)"

(I'm sure in 10 years it has not moved rightward)

Right leaning bilionaires have snapped up so many media outlets and closed them down. Then you have the corporate owned ABC, CNN, NBC and CBS and the right wing owns Fox and Sinclair, but sure the media is left leaning.

Tech:

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/big-tech-moves-to-the-right-silicon-valleys-embrace-of-conservatives

"The Information’s analysis of political giving by employees of Google, Apple, Amazon and Meta shows that 15% of donations have gone to Republican candidates or political action committees this election cycle. That figure is up from 5% in 2020 and 8% in 2018."

Let's talk about right leaning tech titans like Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg and Peter Theil, to name three who have used their platform and money to undermine US and global democracy.

Seriously, you need a better grounding in facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

All of them.

Face it, the right wants a world without science or facts and as a result demonize fact based insitutions - the media, medicine, tech, education...they want everyone worshiping Jesus and ignorant to anything but whatever ;dear leader" says.

so to be clear, you're not disputing that the left dominates these sectors, which are obviously all in hot pursuit of eternal scientific truth, no matter what it does to profits

What you are calling "the left" is what most normal people would call "people interest in facts and truths"

And per the other post, the people who own medicine, who own media and who own Tech are right leaning. Facts really do matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

All of them.

Face it, the right wants a world without science or facts and as a result demonize fact based insitutions - the media, medicine, tech, education...they want everyone worshiping Jesus and ignorant to anything but whatever ;dear leader" says.

so to be clear, you're not disputing that the left dominates these sectors, which are obviously all in hot pursuit of eternal scientific truth, no matter what it does to profits

What you are calling "the left" is what most normal people would call "people interest in facts and truths"

And per the other post, the people who own medicine, who own media and who own Tech are right leaning. Facts really do matter.

if you say so

by "own" do you mean "currently control and make hiring decisions" or do you mean "got in early on the business side and are now very rich individuals"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Education: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_American_academics

Medicine:
https://www.abms.org/newsroom/abms-member-boards-advance-dei-efforts/

Is there something wrong with having more people of color in medicine?

Journalism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States

"According to a study by Lars Willnat and David H. Weaver, professors of journalism at Indiana University, conducted via online interviews with 1,080 reporters between August and December 2013, 38.8% of US journalists identify as "leaning left" (28.1% identify as Democrats), 12.9% identify as "leaning right" (7.1% as Republicans), and 43.8% as "middle of the road" (50.2% as independents)"

(I'm sure in 10 years it has not moved rightward)

Right leaning bilionaires have snapped up so many media outlets and closed them down. Then you have the corporate owned ABC, CNN, NBC and CBS and the right wing owns Fox and Sinclair, but sure the media is left leaning.

Tech:

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/big-tech-moves-to-the-right-silicon-valleys-embrace-of-conservatives

"The Information’s analysis of political giving by employees of Google, Apple, Amazon and Meta shows that 15% of donations have gone to Republican candidates or political action committees this election cycle. That figure is up from 5% in 2020 and 8% in 2018."

Let's talk about right leaning tech titans like Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg and Peter Theil, to name three who have used their platform and money to undermine US and global democracy.

Seriously, you need a better grounding in facts.

educate me, master

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I wouldn’t say they’ve changed but your perception of them has be likely changed as popular culture has evolved to the point that they seem even more retrograde than they always were.

My conservative family was always mean. I thought it was normal until I moved away to a city, grew up, and was exposed to nicer people.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the intellectual bankruptcy underpinning their policy preferences has been repeatedly exposed. And, as a result, it's harder and harder for conservatives to hide their bigotry behind intellectual windowdressing. In decades past, conservatives have been able to dress up their bigotry as "state's rights," "fiscal conservatism," "small government," "local control," etc, etc, when their real sentiment is "f*** anybody who doesn't look like me, and especially f*** poor people who don't look like me."

The mirror image on the left is, naturally, f*** anyone who does THINK like me and especially f*** poor people who don’t think like me

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

All of them.

Face it, the right wants a world without science or facts and as a result demonize fact based insitutions - the media, medicine, tech, education...they want everyone worshiping Jesus and ignorant to anything but whatever ;dear leader" says.

That's not remotely true.

The left just by and large controls the narrative in this country. Any right wing sources are "not credible" and only left leaning voices are creditable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

The left are those with left of center politics. Traditionally speaking those who prefer less hierarchical structures, compared to the right which prefers hierarchical structures. Going back to when those who supported the monarchy sat on the seats in the right, and those who supported more liberty/revolution sat on the left.

Most are ceding to the left by allowing for the delegitimization of right wing viewpoints and sources, excluding right wingers from acceptable discourse, and taking the position that right wing views are illegitimate and makes right leaning people bad people.

The left, because many want to change the world, set the limits for acceptable discourse. The right, because they tend to value rules, over results, tend to operate within those limits.

As someone who isn't originally from this country its pretty interesting to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

All of them.

Face it, the right wants a world without science or facts and as a result demonize fact based insitutions - the media, medicine, tech, education...they want everyone worshiping Jesus and ignorant to anything but whatever ;dear leader" says.

so to be clear, you're not disputing that the left dominates these sectors, which are obviously all in hot pursuit of eternal scientific truth, no matter what it does to profits

What you are calling "the left" is what most normal people would call "people interest in facts and truths"

And per the other post, the people who own medicine, who own media and who own Tech are right leaning. Facts really do matter.

if you say so

by "own" do you mean "currently control and make hiring decisions" or do you mean "got in early on the business side and are now very rich individuals"?

Yoou think Elon Musk founded and grew Twitter?

No, both, some of them bought the platforms, other got in early - in ether case, they ultimately control the outlets. You don't think by their testimony that the Murdoch's don't control what goes on Fox "News"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

come on, be serious

which of them could you possibly dispute?

All of them.

Face it, the right wants a world without science or facts and as a result demonize fact based insitutions - the media, medicine, tech, education...they want everyone worshiping Jesus and ignorant to anything but whatever ;dear leader" says.

That's not remotely true.

The left just by and large controls the narrative in this country. Any right wing sources are "not credible" and only left leaning voices are creditable.

Is Fox credible in your eyes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because culture is downstream from politics. Sometimes you’ve got to fight fire with fire. We ceded every major institution to the left.

Please list these institutions that ceded to the left......with citations not "feelings".

Education, Journalism, Medicine, Tech.

Citations not lists.

What is "the left"?
How are these institutions(?) ceding to the left?

The left are those with left of center politics. Traditionally speaking those who prefer less hierarchical structures, compared to the right which prefers hierarchical structures. Going back to when those who supported the monarchy sat on the seats in the right, and those who supported more liberty/revolution sat on the left.

Most are ceding to the left by allowing for the delegitimization of right wing viewpoints and sources, excluding right wingers from acceptable discourse, and taking the position that right wing views are illegitimate and makes right leaning people bad people.

The left, because many want to change the world, set the limits for acceptable discourse. The right, because they tend to value rules, over results, tend to operate within those limits.

As someone who isn't originally from this country its pretty interesting to see.

The only people deligitimizing right wing perspectives are the testimony and secret communitications from people on the right, who but their own words, admit that their programming is performative and not meant to be inforamtional at all.

And when you say "delegitimizing" are you saying there is a role in our society for the perspective that white nationalism rhetoric should not be held accountable, that racism should not be held accountable etc? Because that is what you are basically arguing.

Look, I don't think every right winger is an evangelical racist wingnut, but certainly you would agree that all of the racist white nationalist evangelical wing nuts are republicans, right? So other than "because we need their votes to have any power" why would any self respecting traditional conservative want to be in the same tent with these people?