Teacher fired, charged with rape at gilman

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

So will the civil lawyers who get access to the emails and notes about this guy over the years. Shit storm is coming.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

So will the civil lawyers who get access to the emails and notes about this guy over the years. Shit storm is coming.

Maybe. Maybe not. Your glee is, perhaps, premature. Not to mention gross.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

So will the civil lawyers who get access to the emails and notes about this guy over the years. Shit storm is coming.

+1. Highly doubtful they can survive yet another scandal. Students and faculty are searching for alternatives. Shit storm is right.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

So will the civil lawyers who get access to the emails and notes about this guy over the years. Shit storm is coming.

Maybe. Maybe not. Your glee is, perhaps, premature. Not to mention gross.

DP. Stop. Just stop. Children have been raped by their teacher. NO ONE is gleeful. Shame on you!!

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It seemed gleeful and gross to me, too.

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Anonymous wrote:It seemed gleeful and gross to me, too.

What’s gross is a teacher RAPING his students. There’s NOTHING gleeful about that! You know what else is gross? That fact that he was there for 15 freggin’ years.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

I’m not even sure why we need detectives when there are dcum posters who already know everything.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

I’m not even sure why we need detectives when there are dcum posters who already know everything.

Thank God detectives will finally put an end to this horror. It will never happen again. People will be held accountable. Finally. Justice is coming for every single victim. May God give them peace. May God help every single perpetrator. Crimes against children are the worst of all crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:There were two other cases of abuse at the school. One from 1950 and one from 1990. it’s a really wonderful school but this story is just so awful. We as a community are devastated.

This. And not just a wonderful school but a small one, so everyone knows everyone. So my heart goes out to the person who was able to step forward, and help this story come to an end. And I am so sad to think that someone my son probably knew, had to experience this. I hope he gets to keep his anonymity, until or unless he doesn't want to. Not sure how that works but kid, whoever you are, I admire you and I wish you the best. Mom hugs to you.

In cases like this one, there is often more than one victim. It is heartbreaking, and must have taken a lot of courage to come forward.

I think as a parent, this makes me want to know how we can better protect our kids against these kind of predators. This guy must have been pretty "nice" on the surface to gain the kids' trust. I think kids and adults kind of expect for there to be more obvious warning signs.

News Flash:
Men wanting to “babysit” your child is a major red flag. How does anyone not know this?

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

So will the civil lawyers who get access to the emails and notes about this guy over the years. Shit storm is coming.

+1. Highly doubtful they can survive yet another scandal. Students and faculty are searching for alternatives. Shit storm is right.

Oh, for heavens sake. Stop infecting this thread with your repeated hysterical posts about DOOM FOR GILMAN. 3 teachers over a 70 year span doesn’t take down a school like Gilman. Heck, TWENTY teachers didn’t take down Horace Mann. TWENTY.

It’s not minimizing the horror to say: right now, with what we know, this doesn’t define the school. It’s a terrible thing that happened to them, not a terrible thing that they did. If evidence comes out that they did do something terrible in conjunction, well, that will change things. But we’re not there right now so your histrionics are indeed premature.

And I bet you that next year’s admissions will be just as tough as this year’s. They aren’t going to have any trouble filling their classes. And I don’t know where you’re getting your information about students and faculty “searching for alternatives”, but none of the actual Gilman families I know are even considering it.

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Anonymous wrote:Are any of the other Baltimore privates accepting apps this late for the US? We have two sons (one in 8th and one in 6th) and we do not wish to continue at gilman next year in light of this development.

Completely understandable. Hopefully, your sons will be welcomed at a better school.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

So will the civil lawyers who get access to the emails and notes about this guy over the years. Shit storm is coming.

+1. Highly doubtful they can survive yet another scandal. Students and faculty are searching for alternatives. Shit storm is right.

Oh, for heavens sake. Stop infecting this thread with your repeated hysterical posts about DOOM FOR GILMAN. 3 teachers over a 70 year span doesn’t take down a school like Gilman. Heck, TWENTY teachers didn’t take down Horace Mann. TWENTY.

It’s not minimizing the horror to say: right now, with what we know, this doesn’t define the school. It’s a terrible thing that happened to them, not a terrible thing that they did. If evidence comes out that they did do something terrible in conjunction, well, that will change things. But we’re not there right now so your histrionics are indeed premature.

And I bet you that next year’s admissions will be just as tough as this year’s. They aren’t going to have any trouble filling their classes. And I don’t know where you’re getting your information about students and faculty “searching for alternatives”, but none of the actual Gilman families I know are even considering it.

This. Including that the Gilman family I know well is not considering switching. It’s a great school. It absolutely shaped my son for the better and I’m grateful for it. I don’t believe any one covered up abuse. But I wonder if people in administration knew Bendann was babysitting and didn’t call him out for it. I hope not.

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Anonymous wrote:For sure if the school administration knew there was a rapist among them, that would be an issue.

Gilman outright failed to report rumors of faculty giving the boys alcohol. They can absolutely be sued for that. They have a legal obligation to report anything like that. Talk with your sons, people, even if they were former students there. This can easily escalate into a huge lawsuit and payouts, considering the perp was there for 15 years.

Well, first you’d have to prove that they actually knew about it, not “they must have known”.

If they were culpable, they should pay. But people are very naive to believe that an abuser can’t conceal abuse. They can, and do.

All it takes is one parent to report to detectives that they had asked a school employee if they heard about the kids getting booze from Chris. It’s already happened. At that instant school was legally required to contact police.

Again, you seem to be confusing civil and criminal liability. The police are going to be focused on locating victims and getting their story, not possible negligence by the school.

Teachers and admin are mandated reporters and can be prosecuted for failing to report.

Mandated reporting applies to physical or sexual abuse, or neglect. While giving booze to minors is illegal, there is no legal mandate for reporting

If Gilman faculty were legally required to report every instance they knew of adults giving alcohol to students, there would be a lot of Roland Park parents getting reported every Monday after hosting parties for their kid and friends over the weekend

Cops will determine who at Gilman participated in the cover-up of the rape of the boys. It had been going on for years and years. Perp figured he could keep doing it for another 15 years as long as the board would continue with business as usual.

Okay, you’ve made up a whole story. IF Gilman covered it up, they should be held accountable. There’s zero evidence so far that they did. Let’s wait until there’s some actual evidence before going nuts about a coverup, okay?

Again, the detectives will figure out how this went on for 15 years. Check your comprehension. They know that men don’t turn into pedophiles overnight. He was a pedophiles the day Gilman hired him at age 23. Just ask anyone knowledgeable in this field. We’ll never know how many boys suffered sex abuse at that school. It’s a real tragedy. Fifteen years is a long time to carry on with something like this. But who knows, maybe they’ll decide his pedophilia suddenly came out of no where just last year, and there are no other victims.
On the other hand, news reports said boyS were forced to run naked in the park. Can you imagine?

Wow, that’s a lot of words to say “since I don’t have proof, I’m going to perseverate on what I think must have been the case”. Proof will come, or it will not. Your deep conviction proves nothing.

Yet again, detectives will figure things out.

So will the civil lawyers who get access to the emails and notes about this guy over the years. Shit storm is coming.

+1. Highly doubtful they can survive yet another scandal. Students and faculty are searching for alternatives. Shit storm is right.

Oh, for heavens sake. Stop infecting this thread with your repeated hysterical posts about DOOM FOR GILMAN. 3 teachers over a 70 year span doesn’t take down a school like Gilman. Heck, TWENTY teachers didn’t take down Horace Mann. TWENTY.

It’s not minimizing the horror to say: right now, with what we know, this doesn’t define the school. It’s a terrible thing that happened to them, not a terrible thing that they did. If evidence comes out that they did do something terrible in conjunction, well, that will change things. But we’re not there right now so your histrionics are indeed premature.

And I bet you that next year’s admissions will be just as tough as this year’s. They aren’t going to have any trouble filling their classes. And I don’t know where you’re getting your information about students and faculty “searching for alternatives”, but none of the actual Gilman families I know are even considering it.

A terrible thing that happened TO them? Really? I don’t think it’s fair to allege some massive intentional coverup took place but it sounds like something more insidious: negligence, lack of action, failure to follow through on their own policies. Ineptitude. Which leads to kids getting hurt.

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Ageee this whole thing sucks, but I know many of the teachers there. One is a mom who’s been teaching there for 10 years and has her own kids there. Another two moms have been teaching there for 8 and 5 years. The head, and the middle school head also have kids at Gilman. They had no idea and I doubt they’d try to cover something up having their own kids at the school.