Bombshell: NYT story suggests Alito is the leaker of Dobbs decision

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Anonymous wrote:This Schenck dude sounds like a schmuck. The woman he accuses of digging for information and passing it on to him totally denies ever doing so. Alito denies ever even discussing ANY case with anyone outside of the court. Amazing how desperately some of you want these garbage stories to be true.

Alito, in a statement provided to CNN by the Supreme Court on Saturday, called the allegations concerning the dinner conversation "completely false."

"My wife and I became acquainted with the Wrights some years ago because of their strong support for the Supreme Court Historical Society, and since then, we have had a casual and purely social relationship. I never detected any effort on the part of the Wrights to obtain confidential information or to influence anything that I did in either an official or private capacity, and I would have strongly objected if they had done so," Alito said.

Wright vehemently denied Schenck's claims in an interview with CNN on Saturday.

"This whole thing is unbelievably misconstrued," she said, adding that Alito would never have discussed a specific case and she would never have asked about one.

"Cases are never discussed, everybody knows that," she said.

Wright confirmed to CNN the she and her husband had dined with the Alitos at their home and she remembered falling ill during the dinner and Alito offering to drive her home. It was the only time she had dined at the justice's home, but she said she has seen him occasionally over the years. She called any allegation that they had discussed the outcome of a case "patently not true."

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/19/politics/2014-supreme-court-decision-leak-hobby-lobby-samuel-alito/index.html

Of course they are going to say they didn't do it.

But what evidence is there that he did? Just this guy’s … word? If there’s strong evidence that Alito did this, he should be kicked off the court, but this seems to be a rather baseless accusation, followed by a WILD speculation that if he did told friends about hobby he leaked the whole Dobbs decision (?!), by an attention-seeking preacher.

Precisely this. Too funny that LWNJs are taking the word of some preacher (of all people) as gospel because they’re so desperate for this story to be true. Imagine if this Schenck guy had a story that was damaging to Democrats. They’d be dismissing him with their usual disdain. How incredibly predictable our friends on the left are.

What’s really going on here: Leftists are pissed that the SC doesn’t rule the way they like so it’s illegitimate. They lost the house so now are onto something else to destroy

What's really going on here: the double standards and denials and lying of the GOP. Every accusation is a confession. Whatever you say about the Left is what you are doing.

You have that exactly opposite. As usual.
DP

Nope. It's the standard GOP playbook. Say the left is doing it and then they do it themselves.

And, of course, your response is typical GOP as well. Lie, lie, lie. If you say it over and over, it becomes true, right?

Nope. Give it up.

Amazing that you continue to project your own issues into others. Look at this thread - if enough LWNJs keep repeating nonsense, maybe your rubes will believe you! Same old same old. Let us know when this story has actually been proven. Not interested in speculation or claims.

Np- oh come on now. You won’t be persuaded by proof either.

+1 They really don’t care, but they know their side is in the wrong, hence the aggressive nature of their posts.

So now it's "aggressive" to remind you people that one is always innocent until proven guilty? Why am I not surprised.

The investigation was shut down when they realized the leaker was almost certainly either Alito or Thomas. It won’t be proven because conservatives can’t be questioned. They are above the law.

Oh, please. It will be investigated and we will all find out who leaked. I look forward to the truth.

When? By whom? What’s the delay?

I think I fixed the formatting?

And I agree with the “When? By whom?” pp. It’s not like they had to wade through decades of emails; you know Roberts knows the answer. He just doesn’t like it and isn’t going to trumpet the results.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

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What? Anthony Kennedy was appointed by Reagan and Mike Mansfield (Dem) was Senate Majority leader.

You are not even believable with revisionist history and you are absymally ignorant about any history.

Anthony Kennedy is the closest we have come to opposite party Senate control bringing a nominee up for a vote in an election year, with that vacancy happening much earlier.
This 'rule' has been stated by Schumer, and I think by Biden in 1991 as well after Thomas was confirmed.

My god, you are beyond belief! A senate rules are written so show us this rule. There is no such rule. It was a suggestion by Biden
The only senator who made this a "rule" was McConnell when he stole a seal when scslua died.

You have no knowledge of history or even current events.

Only a suggestion by Biden because no opening actually occurred.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

Abortion was legal in most states until quickening since the founding of the country. No one cared about it until women started voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

Abortion was legal in most states until quickening since the founding of the country. No one cared about it until women started voting.

Thank you for making my point. Abortion was a states' rights' issue until some partisan hacks...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

Abortion was legal in most states until quickening since the founding of the country. No one cared about it until women started voting.

Thank you for making my point. Abortion was a states' rights' issue until some partisan hacks...

It is a woman's rights issues period. This state will force a birth and this state will not? Go away. This was, is, and always will be a decision made by women for themselves regardless of anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

Abortion was legal in most states until quickening since the founding of the country. No one cared about it until women started voting.

Thank you for making my point. Abortion was a states' rights' issue until some partisan hacks...

Why is women's health up to individual states? What about slavery, is that also a states's rights issue? They are both issues concerning the state's rights over a human being's body.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

Abortion was legal in most states until quickening since the founding of the country. No one cared about it until women started voting.

Thank you for making my point. Abortion was a states' rights' issue until some partisan hacks...

States rights to violate federal rights ended with the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. Your side lost the Civil War.

[Anonymous]

I am a liberal and I will fully support a state to ban abortion on one condition. If the woman says she didn’t want to get pregnant, the state should hold the man who caused the pregnancy responsible and should surgically separate his manhood from him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Will you say the same if Ketanji Brown Jackson votes to overturn Heller? She made the same statements about Heller being the law of the land.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Will you say the same if Ketanji Brown Jackson votes to overturn Heller? She made the same statements about Heller being the law of the land.

Heller was a complete reversal of every other previous interpretation of the Second Amendment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

What did Roe overturn? I'll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Will you say the same if Ketanji Brown Jackson votes to overturn Heller? She made the same statements about Heller being the law of the land.

Heller was a complete reversal of every other previous interpretation of the Second Amendment.

This. Heller was a 10000% percent reversal, not to mention you should read it as it went FAR beyond the "law." Lots of stating what should happen and judicial activism in that opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the bombshell. There is NOTHING in this story linking Alito to the Dobbs leak.

What I read is a story about a conversation at a dinner the long time pro life crusader DID NOT ATTEND. In the legal world, this is called hearsay and is inadmissible in court. I also see an undated alleged email to Roberts. There is no proof this was ever sent. I can create an email on my computer too.

I see a man taking credit for his efforts based on the courtroom questioning which indicated which way the court would go.

Both Alito and the person who was actually at the dinner have both denied any conversation about the case.

As far as claims they lied. Roe WAS settled law when asked. They didn’t lie at all. All of the justices on the current court have refused to comment on cases that MAY come before the court as they should.

This screaming they lied they lied is pretty ridiculous.

Thank you. 100% this. The nuttiness on this forum is something to behold.

Um No. Stare Decisis says you hold to precedent unless there is a good legal reason not to. Stare Decisis is one reason why Roe was reaffirmed for the last 50 years, multiple times by both R and D justices. These partisan hacks who call themselves judges dispensed with it for one reason only: because they could. And they knew they would. Thus, the lie. And, make not mistake, they did lie.

Ahem. By this "logic" the real scandal was Roe. How dare they contradict all decisions during the previous 190+ years? Those partisan hacks...

Abortion was legal in most states until quickening since the founding of the country. No one cared about it until women started voting.

Thank you for making my point. Abortion was a states' rights' issue until some partisan hacks...

Correct. State. Federal law was the point of Roe. And Federal law has supremecy.