Do you know people that moved to Florida?

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on Florida. It was a blue state when I was growing up. Yes, the rural areas are red, but the cities are blue. 99 percent of my friends in Florida are Dems. The exception is the people I went to high school with. It's sad, but most of them bought Trump's line of lies hook, line and sinker.

We plan to retire back to Florida, and will take our blue votes down there as well.

Florida is not conservative in the way Alabama is conservative.

You hate the right wing, but you’re retiring to Florida to dodge taxes which low-tax right wingers are responsible for. Cognitive dissonance!

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Anonymous wrote:I know a few of my friends that moved to Florida, and only one of them are Republicans, is this an outliers? Are more Republican's moving to Florida than Dems?

FL had a boom during the pandemic, take a guess why. Take a guess why tax free red states like FL and TX had an influx of overtaxed citizens of NY and CA whose states had the strictest Covid restrictions and mandates and most radical social/equity justice reforms. This isn't even about republicans migrating or those who used to be democrats switching their political leaning. It's probably more about opportunism, finally saving on state taxes and RE prices (when you come from most expensive places in the USA) started to make sense with remote work, and unfavorable changes to QOL brought on by their states local Covid policies and going a bit too far to the left in other aspects had pushed them to make that move for greener pastures.

Florida’s been “booming” since AC was invented.

The Sun Belt in general. It’s comical how politicians take credit for population trends fueled by modern HVAC, central air, and refrigeration.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on Florida. It was a blue state when I was growing up. Yes, the rural areas are red, but the cities are blue. 99 percent of my friends in Florida are Dems. The exception is the people I went to high school with. It's sad, but most of them bought Trump's line of lies hook, line and sinker.

We plan to retire back to Florida, and will take our blue votes down there as well.

Florida is not conservative in the way Alabama is conservative.

You hate the right wing, but you’re retiring to Florida to dodge taxes which low-tax right wingers are responsible for. Cognitive dissonance!

I grew up in Florida; why shouldn't I return home?

The Florida tax structure is different. Tourist taxes make up for the lack of a state income tax.

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I am glad all these blue staters moved to red states. Reduces polarization and will make the fall election interesting. I'm not gonna do it of course but good for everyone else!



I did this and I am constantly thrilled by it. You would not believe what 1.3-2M will buy down here.


We were house hunting in the suburbs of Orlando ("authentically") and saw a 4500sqft Spanish style house with a sizable courtyard, exterior staircase leading up to 2nd-floor balconies, rooms, and a small terrace. The garage opens into the courtyard and you drive into the courtyard through an arched gateway. You could totally shoot a short clip of an R&B video there. The whole thing was a dream and was $850k. Granted this was late 2020 and the house is a little further out from the center of town, but the home was shockingly beautiful for the price. We also saw some 1.5-2M homes closer in that were extremely impressive - sitting on large lakes, boating dock, 10k+ sqft, etc.


None of that sounds appealing. It sounds overpriced and gaudy and irresponsible towards the environment. Florida has been raping the beautiful natural landscape of the state in exchange for golf courses and man made lakes (aka drainage ditch for a housing development with a fountain) since the days of that bastard Flagler.


Yes, because the tract homes in Leesburg VA are honoring their natural surroundings so well and minding their environmental footprint.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Leesburg either.

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I am glad all these blue staters moved to red states. Reduces polarization and will make the fall election interesting. I'm not gonna do it of course but good for everyone else!



I did this and I am constantly thrilled by it. You would not believe what 1.3-2M will buy down here.


We were house hunting in the suburbs of Orlando ("authentically") and saw a 4500sqft Spanish style house with a sizable courtyard, exterior staircase leading up to 2nd-floor balconies, rooms, and a small terrace. The garage opens into the courtyard and you drive into the courtyard through an arched gateway. You could totally shoot a short clip of an R&B video there. The whole thing was a dream and was $850k. Granted this was late 2020 and the house is a little further out from the center of town, but the home was shockingly beautiful for the price. We also saw some 1.5-2M homes closer in that were extremely impressive - sitting on large lakes, boating dock, 10k+ sqft, etc.


None of that sounds appealing. It sounds overpriced and gaudy and irresponsible towards the environment. Florida has been raping the beautiful natural landscape of the state in exchange for golf courses and man made lakes (aka drainage ditch for a housing development with a fountain) since the days of that bastard Flagler.


Yes, because the tract homes in Leesburg VA are honoring their natural surroundings so well and minding their environmental footprint.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Leesburg either.

The irony of your position is that the only place that would fit your description of retaining the "beautiful natural landscape" are solidly red and very rural areas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up on Florida. It was a blue state when I was growing up. Yes, the rural areas are red, but the cities are blue. 99 percent of my friends in Florida are Dems. The exception is the people I went to high school with. It's sad, but most of them bought Trump's line of lies hook, line and sinker.

We plan to retire back to Florida, and will take our blue votes down there as well.

Florida is not conservative in the way Alabama is conservative.

You hate the right wing, but you’re retiring to Florida to dodge taxes which low-tax right wingers are responsible for. Cognitive dissonance!

And plan to vote to take away why they are retiring there. Hilarious.

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I am glad all these blue staters moved to red states. Reduces polarization and will make the fall election interesting. I'm not gonna do it of course but good for everyone else!



I did this and I am constantly thrilled by it. You would not believe what 1.3-2M will buy down here.


We were house hunting in the suburbs of Orlando ("authentically") and saw a 4500sqft Spanish style house with a sizable courtyard, exterior staircase leading up to 2nd-floor balconies, rooms, and a small terrace. The garage opens into the courtyard and you drive into the courtyard through an arched gateway. You could totally shoot a short clip of an R&B video there. The whole thing was a dream and was $850k. Granted this was late 2020 and the house is a little further out from the center of town, but the home was shockingly beautiful for the price. We also saw some 1.5-2M homes closer in that were extremely impressive - sitting on large lakes, boating dock, 10k+ sqft, etc.


None of that sounds appealing. It sounds overpriced and gaudy and irresponsible towards the environment. Florida has been raping the beautiful natural landscape of the state in exchange for golf courses and man made lakes (aka drainage ditch for a housing development with a fountain) since the days of that bastard Flagler.


Yes, because the tract homes in Leesburg VA are honoring their natural surroundings so well and minding their environmental footprint.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Leesburg either.

The irony of your position is that the only place that would fit your description of retaining the "beautiful natural landscape" are solidly red and very rural areas.

No, actually it is urban living that allows for an unspoiled wilderness. The rednecks who live there take it for granted and want to exploit the landscape for their own personal gain, everyone else be damned.

Re: Florida, large scale human settlement is only possible due to massive environmental destruction like draining millions of acres of wetlands and converting the entire state into a series of artificial canals. Not really comparable to many other regions. BTW Florida is quite red in the center of the state and there is very little that looks anything like the unspoiled natural jewel that Florida once was.

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The only one places I’d consider in FL are either the Naples or Miami areas. I’d need to be near the ocean breeze, otherwise it wouldn’t work for me.

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Anonymous wrote:The only one places I’d consider in FL are either the Naples or Miami areas. I’d need to be near the ocean breeze, otherwise it wouldn’t work for me.

indeed, those are the only two places on the water in the whole state. (naples is on the gulf, not the ocean, fwiw)

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Anonymous wrote:Florida is like the Dollar Store version of California.

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Anonymous wrote:The only one places I’d consider in FL are either the Naples or Miami areas. I’d need to be near the ocean breeze, otherwise it wouldn’t work for me.

I love a good ocean breeze but seriously you couldn't pay me enough to move to flori-duh.... I just couldn't.

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I am glad all these blue staters moved to red states. Reduces polarization and will make the fall election interesting. I'm not gonna do it of course but good for everyone else!



I did this and I am constantly thrilled by it. You would not believe what 1.3-2M will buy down here.


We were house hunting in the suburbs of Orlando ("authentically") and saw a 4500sqft Spanish style house with a sizable courtyard, exterior staircase leading up to 2nd-floor balconies, rooms, and a small terrace. The garage opens into the courtyard and you drive into the courtyard through an arched gateway. You could totally shoot a short clip of an R&B video there. The whole thing was a dream and was $850k. Granted this was late 2020 and the house is a little further out from the center of town, but the home was shockingly beautiful for the price. We also saw some 1.5-2M homes closer in that were extremely impressive - sitting on large lakes, boating dock, 10k+ sqft, etc.


None of that sounds appealing. It sounds overpriced and gaudy and irresponsible towards the environment. Florida has been raping the beautiful natural landscape of the state in exchange for golf courses and man made lakes (aka drainage ditch for a housing development with a fountain) since the days of that bastard Flagler.


Yes, because the tract homes in Leesburg VA are honoring their natural surroundings so well and minding their environmental footprint.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Leesburg either.

The irony of your position is that the only place that would fit your description of retaining the "beautiful natural landscape" are solidly red and very rural areas.

No, actually it is urban living that allows for an unspoiled wilderness. The rednecks who live there take it for granted and want to exploit the landscape for their own personal gain, everyone else be damned.

Re: Florida, large scale human settlement is only possible due to massive environmental destruction like draining millions of acres of wetlands and converting the entire state into a series of artificial canals. Not really comparable to many other regions. BTW Florida is quite red in the center of the state and there is very little that looks anything like the unspoiled natural jewel that Florida once was.

Are you saying that your urban home always existed and that no "beautiful natural landscape" ever existed in its place? What makes your destruction of natural landscape better?

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of Leesburg either.


The irony of your position is that the only place that would fit your description of retaining the "beautiful natural landscape" are solidly red and very rural areas.

Not true. Plenty of the Northeast (for example) is rural and blue.

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I am glad all these blue staters moved to red states. Reduces polarization and will make the fall election interesting. I'm not gonna do it of course but good for everyone else!



I did this and I am constantly thrilled by it. You would not believe what 1.3-2M will buy down here.


We were house hunting in the suburbs of Orlando ("authentically") and saw a 4500sqft Spanish style house with a sizable courtyard, exterior staircase leading up to 2nd-floor balconies, rooms, and a small terrace. The garage opens into the courtyard and you drive into the courtyard through an arched gateway. You could totally shoot a short clip of an R&B video there. The whole thing was a dream and was $850k. Granted this was late 2020 and the house is a little further out from the center of town, but the home was shockingly beautiful for the price. We also saw some 1.5-2M homes closer in that were extremely impressive - sitting on large lakes, boating dock, 10k+ sqft, etc.


None of that sounds appealing. It sounds overpriced and gaudy and irresponsible towards the environment. Florida has been raping the beautiful natural landscape of the state in exchange for golf courses and man made lakes (aka drainage ditch for a housing development with a fountain) since the days of that bastard Flagler.


Yes, because the tract homes in Leesburg VA are honoring their natural surroundings so well and minding their environmental footprint.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Leesburg either.

The irony of your position is that the only place that would fit your description of retaining the "beautiful natural landscape" are solidly red and very rural areas.

No, actually it is urban living that allows for an unspoiled wilderness. The rednecks who live there take it for granted and want to exploit the landscape for their own personal gain, everyone else be damned.

Re: Florida, large scale human settlement is only possible due to massive environmental destruction like draining millions of acres of wetlands and converting the entire state into a series of artificial canals. Not really comparable to many other regions. BTW Florida is quite red in the center of the state and there is very little that looks anything like the unspoiled natural jewel that Florida once was.

Are you saying that your urban home always existed and that no "beautiful natural landscape" ever existed in its place? What makes your destruction of natural landscape better?

She's saying that concentrating people in small, dense areas, leaves room for nature not to be paved over elsewhere. Not that there was never nature in the small, dense places - but you can mitigate against more habitat loss by building up and increasing density instead of pushing people out further and further into areas that aren't very developed yet.

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Anonymous wrote:The only one places I’d consider in FL are either the Naples or Miami areas. I’d need to be near the ocean breeze, otherwise it wouldn’t work for me.

I like St. Pete.