How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?

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Anonymous wrote:UMD has 1.5 national championships in football since 1950 the modern age of football. When Michigan closes the gap with .5 more championships I’ll sit up and notice. Cramming in with 100000 people and spending massive resources for a non championship program of more than 70 years seems good for people with nothing better to do.

Foolish comment.

You’re right . Michigan’s 1 national championship in 70 + years is awesome !!
.5 more and you catch mighty UMD and that’s a tough task.

So you've randomly decided that 1950 constitutes the "modern age of football" in order to say UMD has won more championships? That's funny. But why start there?

Michigan has had 9 national championships. In two of them, a future U.S. president played for the Wolverines. (Gerald Ford, 1932 and 1933)

GO BLUE!

Yes. Thank you.

Michigan is also the winningest program in college football. And the players actually do have to take classes and do well. They have one of the highest GPAs of any college football program.

Michigan is not Alabama. Recruits turn down Michigan every year because they don’t think they can handle the academics.

Uh huh.

1 championship since the 1940s

UMD has 1.5

100000 seat stadium seems a bit much. Get a smithsonian or Kennedy center .. jeez.

How can it be too much when, until the pandemic, every Michigan game since 1975 had 100,000 people in attendance?

GO BLUE!

I agree. Just like Trump rally’s … people can’t believe they completely sell out but I say it’s great for people to be happy.

1. Trump rallies don’t sell out.

2. Most people who go to Michigan games didn’t vote for Trump. It’s Ann Arbor, not Tuscaloosa.

Still I’m glad the 100000 a game football fans are happy despite having fewer national championships than Umd for the last 70+ years. It shows perseverance and doggedness. UMD alum say if at first you don’t succeed … try again … then quit .. no sense in being a damn fool about it. Both philosophies have their merit.

Keep telling yourself you have more national championships and that your program is therefore more successful. Maybe one day someone else will agree with you … but probably not because it’s nonsense.

DP but since the creation of the NCAA, UM has one championship and UMD has one and a half championship.

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Here's a basketball analogy. Holy Cross has won 1 national basketball championship. Texas hasn't. Therefore, Holy Cross' basketball program is more valuable and Longhorn fans just waste their time and money away each year. Both are Division I schools.

Oh, and Holy Cross' championship occurred in 1947, but who cares? It was after the creation of the NCAA.

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Anonymous wrote:UMD has 1.5 national championships in football since 1950 the modern age of football. When Michigan closes the gap with .5 more championships I’ll sit up and notice. Cramming in with 100000 people and spending massive resources for a non championship program of more than 70 years seems good for people with nothing better to do.

Foolish comment.

You’re right . Michigan’s 1 national championship in 70 + years is awesome !!
.5 more and you catch mighty UMD and that’s a tough task.

So you've randomly decided that 1950 constitutes the "modern age of football" in order to say UMD has won more championships? That's funny. But why start there?

Michigan has had 9 national championships. In two of them, a future U.S. president played for the Wolverines. (Gerald Ford, 1932 and 1933)

GO BLUE!

Hard to believe that many people enjoy watching Ohio State beat them.

Yes. Thank you.

Michigan is also the winningest program in college football. And the players actually do have to take classes and do well. They have one of the highest GPAs of any college football program.

Michigan is not Alabama. Recruits turn down Michigan every year because they don’t think they can handle the academics.

Uh huh.

1 championship since the 1940s

UMD has 1.5

100000 seat stadium seems a bit much. Get a smithsonian or Kennedy center .. jeez.

How can it be too much when, until the pandemic, every Michigan game since 1975 had 100,000 people in attendance?

GO BLUE!

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Anonymous wrote:I see the B1G prioritizing both Cal and Stanford over Texas. By doing so they nail down (with UCLA and USC) the four premier programs and the two largest media markets in the country’s largest state. I don’t see any scenario of under which only Cal or Stanford goes. Like UCLA and USC I see them as a package.

The likelihood of ND joining the B1G continues to grow — slowly but steadily.

I'm an ND alum, and this is truly the first time since I graduated in the 90s when I actually hear fellow alums talking about joining the B1G without cursing. I LOVE that ND is independent and really want them to stay that way, but sigh... most of the teams we play will now be in that conference anyway, and NBC has started relegating games to their alternate channels, so... maybe the writing is on the wall.

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With the addition of USC + UCLA, word is that the Big 10 teams could make $100 million per year each.

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Anonymous wrote:I see the B1G prioritizing both Cal and Stanford over Texas. By doing so they nail down (with UCLA and USC) the four premier programs and the two largest media markets in the country’s largest state. I don’t see any scenario of under which only Cal or Stanford goes. Like UCLA and USC I see them as a package.

The likelihood of ND joining the B1G continues to grow — slowly but steadily.

I'm an ND alum, and this is truly the first time since I graduated in the 90s when I actually hear fellow alums talking about joining the B1G without cursing. I LOVE that ND is independent and really want them to stay that way, but sigh... most of the teams we play will now be in that conference anyway, and NBC has started relegating games to their alternate channels, so... maybe the writing is on the wall.

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Same here. I'm resigned to the fact that we'll join the B1G. No other conference makes sense, including the SEC. I used to be a fierce supporter of ND's football independence, but the landscape has changed so quickly and drastically, that full membership in the B1G seems like the prudent way to go. I'm not saying this enthusiastically; I'm just reading the tea leaves.

I don't like the direction that college football is heading. In order to ensure our program's long-term stability and viability, we're going to have to join the B1G, pay our student athletes, break away from the NCAA, possibly see our football program partially break away from the school itself, and watch as college football turns into a pre-NFL or even a NFL competitor. It's a shame.

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I think Texas will flip to the Big Ten which is the only conference with a philosophy.

Large AAU research schools with big alumni numbers and large media markets .

Texas is too snooty for the SEC and they will start hedging … I’ll bet they are already putting out feelers. After that … Florida will want to join. ND and one of Cal / Stanford would be the final members.

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After losing Texas and Florida, the SEC will pay UVA and Unc out of the ACC straightjacket

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Anonymous wrote:I think Texas will flip to the Big Ten which is the only conference with a philosophy.

Large AAU research schools with big alumni numbers and large media markets .

Texas is too snooty for the SEC and they will start hedging … I’ll bet they are already putting out feelers. After that … Florida will want to join. ND and one of Cal / Stanford would be the final members.

It's funny that you think academics matter at all for any of this

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Anonymous wrote:I think Texas will flip to the Big Ten which is the only conference with a philosophy.

Large AAU research schools with big alumni numbers and large media markets .

Texas is too snooty for the SEC and they will start hedging … I’ll bet they are already putting out feelers. After that … Florida will want to join. ND and one of Cal / Stanford would be the final members.

It's funny that you think academics matter at all for any of this

Perception is everything. But research funding is huge and drawing in more money with the savings and synergy of the consortium is a huge part of it.

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Looks like 75 million a year then up to 100 million in 24 when UCLA and USC partner up.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like 75 million a year then up to 100 million in 24 when UCLA and USC partner up.

The poor ACC gets 30 mill per school until 2036.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Texas will flip to the Big Ten which is the only conference with a philosophy.

Large AAU research schools with big alumni numbers and large media markets .

Texas is too snooty for the SEC and they will start hedging … I’ll bet they are already putting out feelers. After that … Florida will want to join. ND and one of Cal / Stanford would be the final members.

It's funny that you think academics matter at all for any of this

Perception is everything. But research funding is huge and drawing in more money with the savings and synergy of the consortium is a huge part of it.

Research is huge in the Big Ten. The University of Michigan spends well over a billion dollars each year on R&D.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like 75 million a year then up to 100 million in 24 when UCLA and USC partner up.

The poor ACC gets 30 mill per school until 2036.

ACC gets more than 30 million now never mind later. ACC has the third best deal after SEC and Big10. Not enough to make it work but they are not the Pac12.

Payout to Big 10 does not go up at all until the LA schools join. And then only by a little for the first two years the increasing quickly to the numbers in the papers

The current grant-of-rights deal would require a school to be penalized their annual revenue distribution, which was a little more than $36 million for Clemson in 2020-21, multiplied by the number of years remaining on the grant-of-rights contract. That means if the Tigers joined the SEC in 2024 – the same year as Oklahoma and Texas – Clemson would have to pay roughly $468 million to leave the ACC.

IF a majority of the ACC schools vote to break the agreement it can be broken. That is the most likely way. Some schools that want SEC work with some that want Big 10. If you can get a majority of ACC schools it would work.

Miami, Clemson, and florida state to SEC. Duke, NC? Maybe. Who to Big10? Big10 will want ND and they want Stanford but who else?. They could take a couple from ACC. Duke if not to SEC? BC is the best fit but who knows. UVA? could work.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like 75 million a year then up to 100 million in 24 when UCLA and USC partner up.

The poor ACC gets 30 mill per school until 2036.

ACC gets more than 30 million now never mind later. ACC has the third best deal after SEC and Big10. Not enough to make it work but they are not the Pac12.

Payout to Big 10 does not go up at all until the LA schools join. And then only by a little for the first two years the increasing quickly to the numbers in the papers

The current grant-of-rights deal would require a school to be penalized their annual revenue distribution, which was a little more than $36 million for Clemson in 2020-21, multiplied by the number of years remaining on the grant-of-rights contract. That means if the Tigers joined the SEC in 2024 – the same year as Oklahoma and Texas – Clemson would have to pay roughly $468 million to leave the ACC.

IF a majority of the ACC schools vote to break the agreement it can be broken. That is the most likely way. Some schools that want SEC work with some that want Big 10. If you can get a majority of ACC schools it would work.

Miami, Clemson, and florida state to SEC. Duke, NC? Maybe. Who to Big10? Big10 will want ND and they want Stanford but who else?. They could take a couple from ACC. Duke if not to SEC? BC is the best fit but who knows. UVA? could work.

If this drags out, Duke better hope their isn't a post coach K drop off because mens basketball ratings is the only thing they bring to the table. I think UVA and UNC make the most sense to the big 10, but Georgia Tech fits academically and brings the Atlanta media market so they could be a wild card

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like 75 million a year then up to 100 million in 24 when UCLA and USC partner up.

The poor ACC gets 30 mill per school until 2036.

ACC gets more than 30 million now never mind later. ACC has the third best deal after SEC and Big10. Not enough to make it work but they are not the Pac12.

Payout to Big 10 does not go up at all until the LA schools join. And then only by a little for the first two years the increasing quickly to the numbers in the papers

The current grant-of-rights deal would require a school to be penalized their annual revenue distribution, which was a little more than $36 million for Clemson in 2020-21, multiplied by the number of years remaining on the grant-of-rights contract. That means if the Tigers joined the SEC in 2024 – the same year as Oklahoma and Texas – Clemson would have to pay roughly $468 million to leave the ACC.

IF a majority of the ACC schools vote to break the agreement it can be broken. That is the most likely way. Some schools that want SEC work with some that want Big 10. If you can get a majority of ACC schools it would work.

Miami, Clemson, and florida state to SEC. Duke, NC? Maybe. Who to Big10? Big10 will want ND and they want Stanford but who else?. They could take a couple from ACC. Duke if not to SEC? BC is the best fit but who knows. UVA? could work.

If this drags out, Duke better hope their isn't a post coach K drop off because mens basketball ratings is the only thing they bring to the table. I think UVA and UNC make the most sense to the big 10, but Georgia Tech fits academically and brings the Atlanta media market so they could be a wild card

Yes GT, Duke, BC, Wake, VA best fits academically. Wake too small and VA not likely to go without Tech who will not get an invite. GT gives Atlanta but may be too far south for what they are planning. BC give New England.