How much money is UMD going to get from the B1G conference?

[Anonymous]

The B1G has outmaneuvered the SEC according to the ESPN former CEO. The payout will be larger. UNC and UVA lower the payout for both conferences since they don’t bring in more than they would get. They are in a really tough spot. The two remaining prizes that increase the payout to member schools are Notre Dame and Stanford/Cal both B1Gs next and final targets.

[Anonymous]

To answer the question. A metric shit-ton. Maryland wasn't brought in to the Big 10 to strengthen the conference from a football perspective. From a sports perspective, Maryland adds value across the board otherwise. Strong basketball (women and men). Made the Big 10 into a viable mens lacrosse conference (and made the womens lacrosse conference a 2 trick pony). Maryland won 5 titles each of the first three years in the big 10 across all sports. Aside from the Covid years, Maryland regularly wins 3 to 5 titles per year and has virtually owned lacrosse (on the mens side all but 1 of the regular season championships and half of the conference tournament championships; on the womens side, all but two tournament championships and all but one regular season). Across all sports with a championship sponsored by the NCAA (i.e., not football and excluding early lacrosse), Maryland has won more national titles than any current big 10 school (excluding UCLA and USC) other than Penn State and Michigan. The womens lacrosse team alone has won as many national championships than the entire athletics programs across Northwestern, Purdue and Rutgers COMBINED. For the 2021-22 year, Maryland is second among Big 10 schools in both the mens and womens rankings and is the only Big 10 school in the top 10 of both rankings.

Aside from that, Maryland brings strong across the board academics, is a major research institution and (not for nothing) the DC/Baltimore media market. It also is a recruiting hot bed for a number of sports (including lacrosse, basketball and, to a somewhat lesser extent, football).

The 2014 expansion was a win-win for the conference and the institution. I, for one, can't wait to watch the ACC collapse and the blue blood Carolina schools (Dook in particular) struggle to find a home.

[Anonymous]

Uva and Unc are in a tough spot

1) financially … they lower the payout to member schools B1G and SEC by not bringing in more than is already paid each school.

2) legally… the iron clad GOR they signed requires 12 of the schools they would leave behind to let them out which is a pipe dream and ESPN has no intention of giving up its 15 year bargain of the century.

3) politically …. There is no way Uva / Unc get to go to great conferences and leaving NC state and VT in crummy conferences. The states have put the kabosh on that before and both of those schools have more alumni / legislators and voters in their respective states.

The reality is sinking in and it’s fascinating

[Anonymous]

Good God.

I don’t think Clemson realizes it’s future yet. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good God.

I don’t think Clemson realizes it’s future yet. Ugh.

They do. You just need a majority of the ACC to revise the GoR or to vote to dissolve the conference. Clemson, Florida State, Miami, UVA, and UNC all have better landing spots. Pitt has an obvious move to a more secure conference. That's six of the 8 votes they'd need to dissolve the conference. You just need two more schools to see the Big 12 as the better near term bet and the ACC is done. It really depends on how much the SEC and B1G want to expand and, to a lesser extent, the Big 12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good God.

I don’t think Clemson realizes it’s future yet. Ugh.

They do. You just need a majority of the ACC to revise the GoR or to vote to dissolve the conference. Clemson, Florida State, Miami, UVA, and UNC all have better landing spots. Pitt has an obvious move to a more secure conference. That's six of the 8 votes they'd need to dissolve the conference. You just need two more schools to see the Big 12 as the better near term bet and the ACC is done. It really depends on how much the SEC and B1G want to expand and, to a lesser extent, the Big 12.

They can’t revise the GOR without ESPN giving up its great deal. Plus Clemson is not going to the SEC it’s redundant with South Carolina.

[Anonymous]

If people are interested in this, you should follow Greg Flugaur on twitter. He has good sources in the Big10.

Two things matter to the big10 presidents, who ultimately decide who is allowed in. Money and research (meaning research money and the AAU). Who brings in the money? ND. Maybe UNC. Maybe UVA. Stanford?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To answer the question. A metric shit-ton. Maryland wasn't brought in to the Big 10 to strengthen the conference from a football perspective. From a sports perspective, Maryland adds value across the board otherwise. Strong basketball (women and men). Made the Big 10 into a viable mens lacrosse conference (and made the womens lacrosse conference a 2 trick pony). Maryland won 5 titles each of the first three years in the big 10 across all sports. Aside from the Covid years, Maryland regularly wins 3 to 5 titles per year and has virtually owned lacrosse (on the mens side all but 1 of the regular season championships and half of the conference tournament championships; on the womens side, all but two tournament championships and all but one regular season). Across all sports with a championship sponsored by the NCAA (i.e., not football and excluding early lacrosse), Maryland has won more national titles than any current big 10 school (excluding UCLA and USC) other than Penn State and Michigan. The womens lacrosse team alone has won as many national championships than the entire athletics programs across Northwestern, Purdue and Rutgers COMBINED. For the 2021-22 year, Maryland is second among Big 10 schools in both the mens and womens rankings and is the only Big 10 school in the top 10 of both rankings.

Aside from that, Maryland brings strong across the board academics, is a major research institution and (not for nothing) the DC/Baltimore media market. It also is a recruiting hot bed for a number of sports (including lacrosse, basketball and, to a somewhat lesser extent, football).

The 2014 expansion was a win-win for the conference and the institution. I, for one, can't wait to watch the ACC collapse and the blue blood Carolina schools (Dook in particular) struggle to find a home.

I'm not a Maryland booster (PSU grad here) but I agree with most of this. Maryland has been a net positive to the big10. Basketball, women's sports. lacrosse, field hockey etc. Plus every other year, Michigan, Ohio State, MSU and PSU fans get a game in the DC area and there are a lot of alum in this area...

And the research money has been huge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If people are interested in this, you should follow Greg Flugaur on twitter. He has good sources in the Big10.

Two things matter to the big10 presidents, who ultimately decide who is allowed in. Money and research (meaning research money and the AAU). Who brings in the money? ND. Maybe UNC. Maybe UVA. Stanford?

I wanted to add that I wouldn't be surprised if GA Tech is invited to the Big10. Atlanta TV market, recruiting base for the OSU/Michigan/PSU in the south plus lots of research money. Yes they are not great athletically but it makes sense. Along the same lines, I can see Miami (FL) in the big10.

[Anonymous]

The Big 12 is going after Colorado , the Arizona schools, Utah

There’s only 2 more spots to 18 before the money gets deluted

The SEC will take Florida State since Florida is a huge state you can have redundancy and increase payout.

There are only 3 schools that enrich the B1G at this point. Stanford/Cal and Notre Dame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people are interested in this, you should follow Greg Flugaur on twitter. He has good sources in the Big10.

Two things matter to the big10 presidents, who ultimately decide who is allowed in. Money and research (meaning research money and the AAU). Who brings in the money? ND. Maybe UNC. Maybe UVA. Stanford?

I wanted to add that I wouldn't be surprised if GA Tech is invited to the Big10. Atlanta TV market, recruiting base for the OSU/Michigan/PSU in the south plus lots of research money. Yes they are not great athletically but it makes sense. Along the same lines, I can see Miami (FL) in the big10.

No Georgia Tech. Georgia dominates Atlanta. The B1G won’t be 2nd fiddle and less than half the Atlanta pie is a loss of money for existing members.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Big 12 is going after Colorado , the Arizona schools, Utah

There’s only 2 more spots to 18 before the money gets deluted

The SEC will take Florida State since Florida is a huge state you can have redundancy and increase payout.

There are only 3 schools that enrich the B1G at this point. Stanford/Cal and Notre Dame.

I think they want Stanford over Cal. The AD at Cal needs to go, there are big issues with the women's soccer and women's swim coaches that were covered up.

[Anonymous]

Question from a non sports person. If more schools join the Big 10, does the conference name change to Big 17 or Big 20 or however many schools are in the Conference?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Big 12 is going after Colorado , the Arizona schools, Utah

There’s only 2 more spots to 18 before the money gets deluted

The SEC will take Florida State since Florida is a huge state you can have redundancy and increase payout.

There are only 3 schools that enrich the B1G at this point. Stanford/Cal and Notre Dame.

I think they want Stanford over Cal. The AD at Cal needs to go, there are big issues with the women's soccer and women's swim coaches that were covered up.

Plus having Stanford ups the pressure on Notre Dame since USC and Stanford are traditional Rivals

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question from a non sports person. If more schools join the Big 10, does the conference name change to Big 17 or Big 20 or however many schools are in the Conference?

It’s the Big Ten media markets

DC/Balt
NYC
Philly/Pittsburgh
Chicago
Detroit
Indianapolis
Cleveland/Columbus/Cincinnati
Minneapolis
LA
San Francisco/Oakland