8th grader who is 15?

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Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:

8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18

I thought the county allowed 12th graders up to age 23, which helps accommodate the ESOL kids earn their actual HS diploma, since they may have first arrived during their teen years? We are discussing Montgomery right?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't have kids. Think about how you would feel if your 17-year-old had a 23-year-old in their class.

What do you think happens one year later when they go to college? There are often more mature students in classes who delayed college for various reasons. So, I guess they can start getting used to it.

But these older students usually take classes in the evening, because they have to work full-time during the day, while the traditional students take classes during the day.

Until they switch majors, do a military stint, come back after gap years, go on their Mormon mission, there are countless reasons your snowflake might be next to a 23 year old student even, gasp, in the morning. There's nothing inherently scary about 17 year olds in the presence of 23 year olds.

A 23-year-old has been old enough to drink and go clubbing for 2 years. A 17-year-old isn't even old enough to vote or sign their own papers.

So? Multiple people here are bragging about being in college themselves at 17 or sending 17 year olds off to college. What do you think happens on campus?

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Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:

8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18

I thought the county allowed 12th graders up to age 23, which helps accommodate the ESOL kids earn their actual HS diploma, since they may have first arrived during their teen years? We are discussing Montgomery right?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't have kids. Think about how you would feel if your 17-year-old had a 23-year-old in their class.

What do you think happens one year later when they go to college? There are often more mature students in classes who delayed college for various reasons. So, I guess they can start getting used to it.

But these older students usually take classes in the evening, because they have to work full-time during the day, while the traditional students take classes during the day.

Until they switch majors, do a military stint, come back after gap years, go on their Mormon mission, there are countless reasons your snowflake might be next to a 23 year old student even, gasp, in the morning. There's nothing inherently scary about 17 year olds in the presence of 23 year olds.

A 23-year-old has been old enough to drink and go clubbing for 2 years. A 17-year-old isn't even old enough to vote or sign their own papers.

So? Multiple people here are bragging about being in college themselves at 17 or sending 17 year olds off to college. What do you think happens on campus?

Everyone with a September birthday will start college at 17, so I'm not sure what there is to brag about. Besides, do these people believe that someone who starts college the day before their 18th birthday at Cal-state Nowhere has more to brag about than someone who starts college on their 18th birthday at MIT?

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Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:

8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18

I thought the county allowed 12th graders up to age 23, which helps accommodate the ESOL kids earn their actual HS diploma, since they may have first arrived during their teen years? We are discussing Montgomery right?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't have kids. Think about how you would feel if your 17-year-old had a 23-year-old in their class.

What do you think happens one year later when they go to college? There are often more mature students in classes who delayed college for various reasons. So, I guess they can start getting used to it.

But these older students usually take classes in the evening, because they have to work full-time during the day, while the traditional students take classes during the day.

Until they switch majors, do a military stint, come back after gap years, go on their Mormon mission, there are countless reasons your snowflake might be next to a 23 year old student even, gasp, in the morning. There's nothing inherently scary about 17 year olds in the presence of 23 year olds.

A 23-year-old has been old enough to drink and go clubbing for 2 years. A 17-year-old isn't even old enough to vote or sign their own papers.

So? Multiple people here are bragging about being in college themselves at 17 or sending 17 year olds off to college. What do you think happens on campus?

[/b]Everyone[b] with a September birthday will start college at 17, so I'm not sure what there is to brag about. Besides, do these people believe that someone who starts college the day before their 18th birthday at Cal-state Nowhere has more to brag about than someone who starts college on their 18th birthday at MIT?

Again, in modern day MD, and anywhere else that has 8/31 or 9/1 cutoff, this is not the case. September birthdays who abided by cutoffs will turn 19 as soon as they get to college. State by state cutoffs and early entrance affect this of course, so you cannot say *everyone*.

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Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:

8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18

I thought the county allowed 12th graders up to age 23, which helps accommodate the ESOL kids earn their actual HS diploma, since they may have first arrived during their teen years? We are discussing Montgomery right?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't have kids. Think about how you would feel if your 17-year-old had a 23-year-old in their class.

What do you think happens one year later when they go to college? There are often more mature students in classes who delayed college for various reasons. So, I guess they can start getting used to it.

But these older students usually take classes in the evening, because they have to work full-time during the day, while the traditional students take classes during the day.

Until they switch majors, do a military stint, come back after gap years, go on their Mormon mission, there are countless reasons your snowflake might be next to a 23 year old student even, gasp, in the morning. There's nothing inherently scary about 17 year olds in the presence of 23 year olds.

A 23-year-old has been old enough to drink and go clubbing for 2 years. A 17-year-old isn't even old enough to vote or sign their own papers.

So? Multiple people here are bragging about being in college themselves at 17 or sending 17 year olds off to college. What do you think happens on campus?

Everyone with a September birthday will start college at 17, so I'm not sure what there is to brag about. Besides, do these people believe that someone who starts college the day before their 18th birthday at Cal-state Nowhere has more to brag about than someone who starts college on their 18th birthday at MIT?

Not where I'm from. My DD has a Sept birthday with a cut off of 9/1 will be going on 19 when college starts, like a lot of other September birthdays around the country. But people certainly are bragging about their youngest of age kids being 17 for a hot minute in college. But since those kids are also always so mature, then there should be no issues being around 23 year olds. I still don't see what the PPs issue is regarding age.

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Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:

8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18

I thought the county allowed 12th graders up to age 23, which helps accommodate the ESOL kids earn their actual HS diploma, since they may have first arrived during their teen years? We are discussing Montgomery right?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you don't have kids. Think about how you would feel if your 17-year-old had a 23-year-old in their class.

You mean 18 minus two weeks?

Anti-immigrant dog whistle.

Why is that a dog whistle ? Is that not the policy? (As it should be for some students).

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Anonymous wrote:Not unusual to be 15 at the end of 8th grade in FCPS. We know plenty of girls turning 15 in August when 9th grade starts. These girls were redshirted. So I imagine there are some boys, and girls, who were red shifted with Spring birthdays and will ne 15 towards the end of 8th grade.

Yes, and plenty of kids who will be 13 all through 8th or who will start 8th at 12 and then turn 13 right before the cutoff. So 12-15 is the new normal 8th grade age range.

That is a huge difference. Do they play any sports? Those are by birth year. So they are 8th graders playing soccer with 10th graders?

Not really.
I have a child who was 12 when 8th grade began and turned 13 in September. A couple classmate were 14 when the school year began and turned 15 in the spring.
At no point was my child who is 12 and was sent "on time" in the same grade as a child who was 15.
They were 12 when a few other children were 14.
Then my child was 13 when they were 15. NBD.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:

8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18

Wrong

100% correct.

8th: 12-14; most are 13 turning 14 during the school year
9th: 13-15; most are 14 turning 15
10th: 14-16; most are 15 turning 16
11th: 15-17; most are 16 turning 17
12th: 16-18; most are 17 turning 18

Wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Not unusual to be 15 at the end of 8th grade in FCPS. We know plenty of girls turning 15 in August when 9th grade starts. These girls were redshirted. So I imagine there are some boys, and girls, who were red shifted with Spring birthdays and will ne 15 towards the end of 8th grade.

Yes, and plenty of kids who will be 13 all through 8th or who will start 8th at 12 and then turn 13 right before the cutoff. So 12-15 is the new normal 8th grade age range.

That is a huge difference. Do they play any sports? Those are by birth year. So they are 8th graders playing soccer with 10th graders?

Not really.
I have a child who was 12 when 8th grade began and turned 13 in September. A couple classmate were 14 when the school year began and turned 15 in the spring.
At no point was my child who is 12 and was sent "on time" in the same grade as a child who was 15.
They were 12 when a few other children were 14.
Then my child was 13 when they were 15. NBD.

So it didn't make you angry that your son was being outshined by these kids for the sole reason that were more ridiculously older him and not because they were genuinely more gifted than him?

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Anonymous wrote:Not unusual to be 15 at the end of 8th grade in FCPS. We know plenty of girls turning 15 in August when 9th grade starts. These girls were redshirted. So I imagine there are some boys, and girls, who were red shifted with Spring birthdays and will ne 15 towards the end of 8th grade.

Yes, and plenty of kids who will be 13 all through 8th or who will start 8th at 12 and then turn 13 right before the cutoff. So 12-15 is the new normal 8th grade age range.

That is a huge difference. Do they play any sports? Those are by birth year. So they are 8th graders playing soccer with 10th graders?

One DD does have a teammate who is 2 grades below, still a good teammate. It is a bit odd for the kids, according to DD, but I think it's my child's particular age due to the big difference between kids who have already been in middle school for a few years and kids who are in elementary. I think it's probably less noticeable in HS when it's not really unusual to have freshman playing on the same team as seniors and juniors.

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There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...

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Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...

She is not more mature or advanced just older.

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Anonymous wrote:Not unusual to be 15 at the end of 8th grade in FCPS. We know plenty of girls turning 15 in August when 9th grade starts. These girls were redshirted. So I imagine there are some boys, and girls, who were red shifted with Spring birthdays and will ne 15 towards the end of 8th grade.

Yes, and plenty of kids who will be 13 all through 8th or who will start 8th at 12 and then turn 13 right before the cutoff. So 12-15 is the new normal 8th grade age range.

That is a huge difference. Do they play any sports? Those are by birth year. So they are 8th graders playing soccer with 10th graders?

Not really.
I have a child who was 12 when 8th grade began and turned 13 in September. A couple classmate were 14 when the school year began and turned 15 in the spring.
At no point was my child who is 12 and was sent "on time" in the same grade as a child who was 15.
They were 12 when a few other children were 14.
Then my child was 13 when they were 15. NBD.

So it didn't make you angry that your son was being outshined by these kids for the sole reason that were more ridiculously older him and not because they were genuinely more gifted than him?

Does it make you angry when.a younger child I’m the same grade outshines your held back kid?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not unusual to be 15 at the end of 8th grade in FCPS. We know plenty of girls turning 15 in August when 9th grade starts. These girls were redshirted. So I imagine there are some boys, and girls, who were red shifted with Spring birthdays and will ne 15 towards the end of 8th grade.

Yes, and plenty of kids who will be 13 all through 8th or who will start 8th at 12 and then turn 13 right before the cutoff. So 12-15 is the new normal 8th grade age range.

That is a huge difference. Do they play any sports? Those are by birth year. So they are 8th graders playing soccer with 10th graders?

Not really.
I have a child who was 12 when 8th grade began and turned 13 in September. A couple classmate were 14 when the school year began and turned 15 in the spring.
At no point was my child who is 12 and was sent "on time" in the same grade as a child who was 15.
They were 12 when a few other children were 14.
Then my child was 13 when they were 15. NBD.

So it didn't make you angry that your son was being outshined by these kids for the sole reason that were more ridiculously older him and not because they were genuinely more gifted than him?

Does it make you angry when.a younger child I’m the same grade outshines your held back kid?

What? It's the older kid who has the advantage over the younger kid, so there's nothing impressive about an older kid outshining a younger kid. If, however, a younger kid outshines an older kid, it means that that younger kid is genuinely more gifted than that older kid and genuinely deserved to win whatever competition was between them, so there was no cheating involved and therefore, no call for anger.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was a girl who turned 15 in March of 8th grade in my dd's class - she was way more mature and academically advanced than most of the kids in 8th- I'm sure she's going to love being still in High School at 19...

She is not more mature or advanced just older.

+1 I bet her parents are simple swelling with pride to know that she's outshining kids as much as 21 months younger than her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With Sept 30 cutoff and no redshirting there are kids in these age ranges:

8th: 12-14
9th: 13-15
10th: 14-16
11th: 15-17
12th: 16-18

Wrong

100% correct.

8th: 12-14; most are 13 turning 14 during the school year
9th: 13-15; most are 14 turning 15
10th: 14-16; most are 15 turning 16
11th: 15-17; most are 16 turning 17
12th: 16-18; most are 17 turning 18

Wrong.

Sorry you suck at math.