Buffalo Mass Shooting

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine what it must feel like to be this teenager’s parents. I won’t make any assumptions about their parenting but just always feel some sympathy when these stories break for the parents siblings and other close relatives of the shooter, what a horror it must also be to grapple with these events from that side of things.

Why? Save your sympathy for the real victims.

Exactly. What in the actual hell?! Why not try imagining what the victims' families must be feeling?

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WTH?

You know it's possible to hold two thoughts at the same time. It's not either/or. You can feel immense sorrow for the victims and their families and also have some sympathy for the shooter's family, especially younger siblings.

And yet PP only expressed one of those thoughts. Who knows if the other thought you're trying to give them credit for even crossed their mind.

Let's be real. If the shooter was black or brown and didn't remind you of people you know and love, you would have zippo sympathy for humans his family. You sympathize because you see yourself and your family in him, but don't in his victims.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is the east and unfettered access to guns!!!

Jesus, people, debate ideology, social media, and mental health all you want but first take the weapons of mass murder out of their hands!

Bullshit.

Gun control doesn’t work. NY has the strictest laws anywhere.

You idiots say this all time time….and then you pretend to not hear this: We need NATIONAL-LEVEL gun laws because there aren’t locked borders between states.

+1. Seriously, is New York an island? And if that creep could get a gun, the gun control clearly isn’t strict enough.

And body armor. He was shot by the security guard; without the body armor, he'd have been down before shooting his last victims.

[Anonymous]

There are always "red flags."

According to CNN:

Separately, a spokesman for New York State Police told CNN on Sunday it investigated a report that a 17-year-old student had made "a threatening statement". The student was taken to a hospital in June 2021 for a mental health evaluation.

The spokesman said state police responded to Susquehanna High School in Conklin, NY, on June 8, 2021, following the threatening statement.

"The student was taken into custody under NYS Mental Health Law section 9.41 and transported to the hospital for a mental health evaluation," state police told CNN in an email.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let me guess: the white racist shooter was taken alive by police.

Always amazing how they manage this with a mass shooter armed to the teeth, but unarmed black men have them in constant fear of their lives 🙄

Time and time again America shows you who she really is, do not be amazed. Start believing her. A black man without weapons, Eric Garner, Mike Brown, is far far more deadly to cops armed to the nines, than a white man with semiautomatic guns that has shot multiple people. Institutional racism is alive and breeding.

Well, they did detain the DC snipers alive. The guy who drove his SUV through the crowd in WI and killed multiple people was brought in alive. Willie Godbolt shot and killed 8 people in Mississippi and was brought in alive. The Las Vegas shooter was not brought in alive. I never understood why people are fixated on whether a shooter is brought in alive or not. It's very hard to see a correlation with anything.

You're missing the part where there are unarmed/non-commission of crime folks MURDERED by cops. The presumptions to kill someone based on them being a threat, when the threat doesn't actually exist. However, the actual witnessing of commission of crime and continued possession of the criminal weapons resulting in an arrest, doesn't logically make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the east and unfettered access to guns!!!

Jesus, people, debate ideology, social media, and mental health all you want but first take the weapons of mass murder out of their hands!

Bullshit.

Gun control doesn’t work. NY has the strictest laws anywhere.

But Pennsylvania and Ohio are right nearby and do not.

Do you know if he got the gun in Pennsylvania or Ohio?

The gun was his weapon of choice. He could have used a pressure cooker.

And killed how many?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the east and unfettered access to guns!!!

Jesus, people, debate ideology, social media, and mental health all you want but first take the weapons of mass murder out of their hands!

Bullshit.

Gun control doesn’t work. NY has the strictest laws anywhere.

You idiots say this all time time….and then you pretend to not hear this: We need NATIONAL-LEVEL gun laws because there aren’t locked borders between states.

+1. Seriously, is New York an island? And if that creep could get a gun, the gun control clearly isn’t strict enough.

+2. It’s like putting up a two foot fence in front of a cliff and saying fences don’t work because people are still falling off the cliff.

+3. And great analogy with the fence!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are always "red flags."

According to CNN:

Separately, a spokesman for New York State Police told CNN on Sunday it investigated a report that a 17-year-old student had made "a threatening statement". The student was taken to a hospital in June 2021 for a mental health evaluation.

The spokesman said state police responded to Susquehanna High School in Conklin, NY, on June 8, 2021, following the threatening statement.

"The student was taken into custody under NYS Mental Health Law section 9.41 and transported to the hospital for a mental health evaluation," state police told CNN in an email.

That’s why it makes no sense to fall back on “mental health treatment” when terrible tragedies like this occur. I’m all for improved access to mental health treatment and decreased stigma however that will not stop these awful crimes. This was a person with educated parents, a pediatrician, access to mental health treatment if he wanted to avail himself of it. He very likely did not want to. This happened because he had easy access to guns.

[Anonymous]

reports are saying that he was in the area for a few days. . . the parents knew and did nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the east and unfettered access to guns!!!

Jesus, people, debate ideology, social media, and mental health all you want but first take the weapons of mass murder out of their hands!

Bullshit.

Gun control doesn’t work. NY has the strictest laws anywhere.

You idiots say this all time time….and then you pretend to not hear this: We need NATIONAL-LEVEL gun laws because there aren’t locked borders between states.

Also you have no idea what the counter-factual is. How much more violence would there be without the state level gun laws?

[Anonymous]

Just putting this out there. Compare the way 2 teenagers were described. Guess the difference between them, and which one was killed by police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me guess: the white racist shooter was taken alive by police.

Always amazing how they manage this with a mass shooter armed to the teeth, but unarmed black men have them in constant fear of their lives 🙄

Time and time again America shows you who she really is, do not be amazed. Start believing her. A black man without weapons, Eric Garner, Mike Brown, is far far more deadly to cops armed to the nines, than a white man with semiautomatic guns that has shot multiple people. Institutional racism is alive and breeding.

Well, they did detain the DC snipers alive. The guy who drove his SUV through the crowd in WI and killed multiple people was brought in alive. Willie Godbolt shot and killed 8 people in Mississippi and was brought in alive. The Las Vegas shooter was not brought in alive. I never understood why people are fixated on whether a shooter is brought in alive or not. It's very hard to see a correlation with anything.

You're missing the part where there are unarmed/non-commission of crime folks MURDERED by cops. The presumptions to kill someone based on them being a threat, when the threat doesn't actually exist. However, the actual witnessing of commission of crime and continued possession of the criminal weapons resulting in an arrest, doesn't logically make sense.

THANK YOU! People are either being purposefully obtuse or deflecting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the east and unfettered access to guns!!!

Jesus, people, debate ideology, social media, and mental health all you want but first take the weapons of mass murder out of their hands!

Bullshit.

Gun control doesn’t work. NY has the strictest laws anywhere.

You idiots say this all time time….and then you pretend to not hear this: We need NATIONAL-LEVEL gun laws because there aren’t locked borders between states.

+1. Seriously, is New York an island? And if that creep could get a gun, the gun control clearly isn’t strict enough.

And body armor. He was shot by the security guard; without the body armor, he'd have been down before shooting his last victims.

So ban body armor; then everything will be like la-la-land,

amirite?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just putting this out there. Compare the way 2 teenagers were described. Guess the difference between them, and which one was killed by police.

Thanks for posting. That was a good thread on the topic of race, age and innocent infantilizing of white criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just putting this out there. Compare the way 2 teenagers were described. Guess the difference between them, and which one was killed by police.

Thanks for posting. That was a good thread on the topic of race, age and innocent infantilizing of white criminals.

+1 I hope this brings them enough grief they update their “style guide” about this. All 18 and 19 year olds are “teenagers” or none are!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is the east and unfettered access to guns!!!

Jesus, people, debate ideology, social media, and mental health all you want but first take the weapons of mass murder out of their hands!

Bullshit.

Gun control doesn’t work. NY has the strictest laws anywhere.

But Pennsylvania and Ohio are right nearby and do not.

But that would mean he crossed a state line, which we all know is illegal after the media reporting on the Rittenhouse situation.