DC drops indoor mask and vaccine mandates tomorrow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This feels so unfair. So unvaccinated adults can swan around unmasked in restaurants and bars, but my fully vaxxed kids have to continue wearing their masks for 8 hours a day in school. Drop the school mask mandate before dropping the vax mandate.

Schools will be next. Time to turn up the heat.

I am interested in pushing the Mayor on this, but how? I’m so sick of this bio safety theater.

You can write to your council member(s) and their staff:

Chair: Phil Mendelson [e-mail]
Mendelson's staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

At-large: Anita Bonds [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

At-large: Elissa Silverman [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

At-large: Robert White [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

At-large: Christina Henderson [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward 1: Brianne Nadeau [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward 2: Brooke Pinto [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward3: Mary Cheh [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward 4: Janeese Lewis George [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward 5: Kenyan McDuffie [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward 6: Charles Allen [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward 7: Vince Gray [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

Ward 8: Trayon White [e-mail]
Staff: [e-mail], [e-mail]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fine if the numbers stay low.

But if the numbers shoot back up and safety measures aren't put back in place, all of you rabid anti-maskers can go straight to hell.

Why do safety measures have to go back into place? You can wear your KN95 mask with a surgical mask over it and never so much as take a sip of water in public for all I care. Just let me have the freedom to not wear a mask.

-rabid anti-masker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine if the numbers stay low.

But if the numbers shoot back up and safety measures aren't put back in place, all of you rabid anti-maskers can go straight to hell.

Why do safety measures have to go back into place? You can wear your KN95 mask with a surgical mask over it and never so much as take a sip of water in public for all I care. Just let me have the freedom to not wear a mask.

-rabid anti-masker

+10000. You crazy ladies can gag yourselves all you want to, forever for all I care. Just leave everyone else alone!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine if the numbers stay low.

But if the numbers shoot back up and safety measures aren't put back in place, all of you rabid anti-maskers can go straight to hell.

Why do safety measures have to go back into place? You can wear your KN95 mask with a surgical mask over it and never so much as take a sip of water in public for all I care. Just let me have the freedom to not wear a mask.

-rabid anti-masker

Why does your entitled belief in your freedom to spread disease trump everyone else's freedoms?

Fact: Masks have saved a huge number of lives by sparing people infection from casual encounters at stores and elsewhere.
Fact: A properly worn KN95 makes the difference between 15 minutes to get infected if you're unmasked to 4 hours+ if you're wearing that mask.
Fact: You anti-maskers have not saved anyone's life, and in fact you're getting people killed.
Fact: You have no freedom when you're intubated in a hospital bed
Fact: You have no freedom when you're lying dead on a slab in a morgue.

Whatever the hell it is you people think you're accomplishing by fighting masks is not about freedom, it's not about authoritarianism, it's just imaginary jumbled, misinformed garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine if the numbers stay low.

But if the numbers shoot back up and safety measures aren't put back in place, all of you rabid anti-maskers can go straight to hell.

Why do safety measures have to go back into place? You can wear your KN95 mask with a surgical mask over it and never so much as take a sip of water in public for all I care. Just let me have the freedom to not wear a mask.

-rabid anti-masker

+10000. You crazy ladies can gag yourselves[i] all you want to, forever for all I care. Just leave everyone else alone!

"Gag?" You sound a bit unhinged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are they doing this? The vax mandate was great

It destroys small businesses, especially restaurants.

Why, though? Most of DC is vaccinated, and this should encourage those who aren't to get vaccinated.

No. It encourages people (including those who are vaccinated) to not patronize businesses.

I'm vaccinated, and very much against mandates. I won't eat in a restaurant that requires a vaccine. That's absurd--three years ago no restaurant was asking to see proof of a measles shot before they'd let me eat.

Me too. Mandates are coercive and abhorrent to me.

+1 million

I am vaccinated and glad for the protection. I am not interested in forcing anyone else to be vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Well, good luck to the hospital workers.

[Anonymous]

Damn, I was hoping to take my kids around to the museums and things this summer with a lot fewer tourists. Boo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. The unvaccinated pose a very meaningful risk to society as a whole. But it is fashionable now to forget that anyone has any civic duty to society as a whole.

The unvaccinated are the ones who fill up hospital beds, end up seriously ill, or die. I guess you'd say, well, that's on them; their serious illnesses, hospital stays and deaths (or long Covid) don't hurt me as a vaccinated person so why do I care? I care because the unvaccinated still put many people at risk: Children who can't be vaccinated yet, people of all ages who can't be vaccinated, people who are vaccinated but for whom even a "mild" case of Covid could end up being devastating. But there's zero concern at this point for those vulnerable people and an attitude of "Let them stay home forever, then, so the rest of us can Go On Living!" Nope, those people are not part of society, apparently.

At the end of the day, it seems like this comes down to some desire to punish people for making a "bad" decision. So, it's not about public health policy, but rather its some sort of moral judgment.

And, again, the vaccines (unfortunately) don't end transmission. So, the at-risk people will remain at-risk even if everyone else is vaccinated. These mandates are futile.

We need to accept, as a society, that some percentage of Americans won't get vaccinated no matter what we do, and plan for the future accordingly. Part of that will be accepting that people will keep dying from covid forever.

I think many of us do want to punish those refusing to act in the best interest of society. To act so smug and cavalier without fearing consequences is not right.
It’s also about equity. If my family must comply with vaccinations, boosters, masking, inconvenience, and constant fear, well guess what. So does yours. To give that type a pass will only lead to more distrust and dangerous individualism.

Nope. I didn’t ask you to get vaccinated. I didn’t ask you to get your kids vaccinated. You chose to do that. And nobody owes you anything for that decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP. The unvaccinated pose a very meaningful risk to society as a whole. But it is fashionable now to forget that anyone has any civic duty to society as a whole.

The unvaccinated are the ones who fill up hospital beds, end up seriously ill, or die. I guess you'd say, well, that's on them; their serious illnesses, hospital stays and deaths (or long Covid) don't hurt me as a vaccinated person so why do I care? I care because the unvaccinated still put many people at risk: Children who can't be vaccinated yet, people of all ages who can't be vaccinated, people who are vaccinated but for whom even a "mild" case of Covid could end up being devastating. But there's zero concern at this point for those vulnerable people and an attitude of "Let them stay home forever, then, so the rest of us can Go On Living!" Nope, those people are not part of society, apparently.

At the end of the day, it seems like this comes down to some desire to punish people for making a "bad" decision. So, it's not about public health policy, but rather its some sort of moral judgment.

And, again, the vaccines (unfortunately) don't end transmission. So, the at-risk people will remain at-risk even if everyone else is vaccinated. These mandates are futile.

We need to accept, as a society, that some percentage of Americans won't get vaccinated no matter what we do, and plan for the future accordingly. Part of that will be accepting that people will keep dying from covid forever.

I think many of us do want to punish those refusing to act in the best interest of society. To act so smug and cavalier without fearing consequences is not right.
It’s also about equity. If my family must comply with vaccinations, boosters, masking, inconvenience, and constant fear, well guess what. So does yours. To give that type a pass will only lead to more distrust and dangerous individualism.

Nope. I didn’t ask you to get vaccinated. I didn’t ask you to get your kids vaccinated. You chose to do that. And nobody owes you anything for that decision.

+10000

[Anonymous]

Ugh I wish masks mandates would remain in apartment buildings and grocery stores, too, as I can neither vaxx my toddler nor leave him home alone. I am worried about him because family members have gotten long COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine if the numbers stay low.

But if the numbers shoot back up and safety measures aren't put back in place, all of you rabid anti-maskers can go straight to hell.

Why do safety measures have to go back into place? You can wear your KN95 mask with a surgical mask over it and never so much as take a sip of water in public for all I care. Just let me have the freedom to not wear a mask.

-rabid anti-masker

Why does your entitled belief in your freedom to spread disease trump everyone else's freedoms?

Fact: Masks have saved a huge number of lives by sparing people infection from casual encounters at stores and elsewhere.
Fact: A properly worn KN95 makes the difference between 15 minutes to get infected if you're unmasked to 4 hours+ if you're wearing that mask.
Fact: You anti-maskers have not saved anyone's life, and in fact you're getting people killed.
Fact: You have no freedom when you're intubated in a hospital bed
Fact: You have no freedom when you're lying dead on a slab in a morgue.

Whatever the hell it is you people think you're accomplishing by fighting masks is not about freedom, it's not about authoritarianism, it's just imaginary jumbled, misinformed garbage.

I’ve never had Covid therefore I have no idea how I’ve gotten anyone killed. Spare me your sanctimony and please remain in a mask however long you please. Me not wearing a mask shouldn’t matter to you at all while you have your KN95 on. And based on your response you are probably never in the same space with anyone except immediate family for 15 minutes because you seem to be incredibly anxious still about Covid. Luckily I am with the majority who are more sane about this disease at this point.

I also will not end up intubated as a result of Covid. I understand science and statistics.

[Anonymous]

What we’re seeing in DC is playing out all over the Blue Northeast. This is the Democratic Party desperately pandering to moderate and undecided voters as polls suggest a major shellacking come November. Putting politics before public health may perhaps help the Ds if another surge doesn’t materialize, but the City Council and other governors face ruin if these decisions cause yet another spike in infections and deaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fine if the numbers stay low.

But if the numbers shoot back up and safety measures aren't put back in place, all of you rabid anti-maskers can go straight to hell.

Why do safety measures have to go back into place? You can wear your KN95 mask with a surgical mask over it and never so much as take a sip of water in public for all I care. Just let me have the freedom to not wear a mask.

-rabid anti-masker

Why does your entitled belief in your freedom to spread disease trump everyone else's freedoms?

Fact: Masks have saved a huge number of lives by sparing people infection from casual encounters at stores and elsewhere.
Fact: A properly worn KN95 makes the difference between 15 minutes to get infected if you're unmasked to 4 hours+ if you're wearing that mask.
Fact: You anti-maskers have not saved anyone's life, and in fact you're getting people killed.
Fact: You have no freedom when you're intubated in a hospital bed
Fact: You have no freedom when you're lying dead on a slab in a morgue.

Whatever the hell it is you people think you're accomplishing by fighting masks is not about freedom, it's not about authoritarianism, it's just imaginary jumbled, misinformed garbage.

I’ve never had Covid therefore I have no idea how I’ve gotten anyone killed. Spare me your sanctimony and please remain in a mask however long you please. Me not wearing a mask shouldn’t matter to you at all while you have your KN95 on. And based on your response you are probably never in the same space with anyone except immediate family for 15 minutes because you seem to be incredibly anxious still about Covid. Luckily I am with the majority who are more sane about this disease at this point.

I also will not end up intubated as a result of Covid. I understand science and statistics.

If you actually did understand science and statistics you wouldn’t have made that last comment.

[Anonymous]

We need a new title for this thread:

USA: Land of the Free and Home of the Selfishly Entitled.