VA is now anti voting State

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We've literally had 250+ years of elections without voter ID cards. Your signature was always your voter ID.

There's no rational reason to change the rules now. Those pushing the change just want to make another barrier to voting.

What signature is being matched?

Serious question: Have you seriously never voted in-person? Are you even an American?

You sign your name and the poll worker compares your physical signature with the one you gave when you registered to vote.

I have never signed anything when voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've literally had 250+ years of elections without voter ID cards. Your signature was always your voter ID.

There's no rational reason to change the rules now. Those pushing the change just want to make another barrier to voting.

What signature is being matched?

Serious question: Have you seriously never voted in-person? Are you even an American?

You sign your name and the poll worker compares your physical signature with the one you gave when you registered to vote.

I have never signed anything when voting.

Where the heck are you voting? I want to know because they are not following the law.

I've voted in CA, NY, and DC. Every time I've signed into my polling station. If you vote by mail, you have to sign the envelope so they can compare your signature with that on your voter registration.

Signature matching is the backbone of the US voting system. There's no need for an ID card.

[Anonymous]

I've always signed when I vote, no matter what state I have lived in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've literally had 250+ years of elections without voter ID cards. Your signature was always your voter ID.

There's no rational reason to change the rules now. Those pushing the change just want to make another barrier to voting.

What signature is being matched?

Serious question: Have you seriously never voted in-person? Are you even an American?

You sign your name and the poll worker compares your physical signature with the one you gave when you registered to vote.

I have never signed anything when voting.

Where the heck are you voting? I want to know because they are not following the law.

I've voted in CA, NY, and DC. Every time I've signed into my polling station. If you vote by mail, you have to sign the envelope so they can compare your signature with that on your voter registration.

Signature matching is the backbone of the US voting system. There's no need for an ID card.

DP. I vote in Virginia and do not recall ever signing anything to vote because I always had id to show (although not always photo id because it wasn’t always required). If I did not have id with me and needed to submit a provisional ballot, I believe I would have been required to sign it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Notwithstanding last year’s results, Republicans know the only way they can consistently win is if they suppress the vote, so they are going to spend the next four years trying to do just that.

They can’t be that motivated. Obama won a second term (I am open to the idea that they didn’t think he would win the first time so didn’t take steps)

And didn’t Biden win GA against expectations?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The ID requirement effects so few voters and sounds so reasonable that democrats come off like chicken little. Then when real issues like Texas and Georgia closing polling locations and restricting hours arise no one listens anymore.

It doesn't affect people with means.

But get sick, or old, or poor, or disabiled, and it DOES affect you.

This is not a small issue. I have friends in Orlando who volunteer to help people get IDs. It's a huge job.

Making identification free would solve the issue of those who can’t afford the fee.

As to transit difficulties, elections aren’t a surprise and id is needed for other things in life. I needed one to register my children for school. If you want an id you will get one (assuming you are a citizen or legally in the country) even if you have to do a little planning.

[Anonymous]

Closing polling places and restricting voting hours is separate and that’s an area where I would be suspicious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We've literally had 250+ years of elections without voter ID cards. Your signature was always your voter ID.

There's no rational reason to change the rules now. Those pushing the change just want to make another barrier to voting.

What signature is being matched?

Serious question: Have you seriously never voted in-person? Are you even an American?

You sign your name and the poll worker compares your physical signature with the one you gave when you registered to vote.

I have never signed anything when voting.

Where the heck are you voting? I want to know because they are not following the law.

I've voted in CA, NY, and DC. Every time I've signed into my polling station. If you vote by mail, you have to sign the envelope so they can compare your signature with that on your voter registration.

Signature matching is the backbone of the US voting system. There's no need for an ID card.

Right, because it's impossible to forge a signature. I vote in VA and have never, ever had to sign anything unless I'm voting absentee. I have, however, always had to show my ID.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.

Why didn't you do this all along?

Ding ding ding. You'd think that would be the obvious thing to do, wouldn't you? The excuses are just... mind-numbing.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This will keep my disabled MIL from voting. She has a Maryland ID, but her naturalization paperwork has her name from 4 husbands ago, so she can’t get a picture ID here. I guess we will start the very long process of sending all of the marriage and death certificates to the state department.

Why didn't you do this all along?

Ding ding ding. You'd think that would be the obvious thing to do, wouldn't you? The excuses are just... mind-numbing.
DP

Maybe because it costs $555 and is a PITA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???

Duh... do you not know how voting works?

A -- you are checked in. You have to SIGN your name, which is matched to what they have on file.

Then you are given a ballot. You vote. Your vote is recorded, and the fact that YOU voted is recorded. Other ballots under your name are not counted.


https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/09/04/double-trouble-how-states-keep-people-from-voting-twice.aspx
More details.

We can provide generalities, though. In general, the reason it is hard to vote twice in the same state for the same election is that states keep a record of who has voted. The first ballot that is recorded from a given voter gets counted and that precludes them from voting again.

Let’s say someone drops off or otherwise returns an absentee ballot. Once the voter’s information on the outside of the absentee ballot envelope is verified, it is standard practice to mark the voter’s registration file with the fact that that person has voted.

If that person then shows up at the polls, the poll book will show that she or he already voted absentee. If the voter insists on voting in person, a provisional ballot will likely be used, which is put in an envelope with the voter’s information on the outside. After the fact, the data will be reviewed, and only the first-recorded ballot would be counted.

On the flip side, if a person votes in person and then a voted absentee ballot from them later arrives at the election office, the in-person vote would already be recorded and the absentee ballot would be rejected. That voter shouldn’t be surprised to receive a letter from election officials asking why two ballots were cast—even though only one was counted.

DP. It's beyond odd that you keep insisting voters have to sign their name. In VA, they do not - if they present an acceptable ID. Again: NO ONE HAS TO SIGN THEIR NAME, unless they have to sign the ID confirmation statement in lieu of showing ID. Which is ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Thread title is deliberately misleading. None of those Bills would prevent registered voters from voting.

Post reported.

It would prevent me from voting.

- registered voter

Well incarceration has its limits.

Yes, living in a state with a POS Trumphumper governor and his idiotic supporters does feel like jail.

What a whiner you are. Move, you poor snowflake.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The ID requirement effects so few voters and sounds so reasonable that democrats come off like chicken little. Then when real issues like Texas and Georgia closing polling locations and restricting hours arise no one listens anymore.

Delaware, Biden's home state, is currently more restrictive than what was passed in Georgia? It is faux outrage.

EXACTLY. This was noted in the media, but of course, Dems ignored it. Connecticut, NY, and RI are among the other blue states with MORE restrictive voter laws. And Democrats wonder why people call them hypocrites. So curious.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/04/democrats-voting-rights-contradiction/618599/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We've literally had 250+ years of elections without voter ID cards. Your signature was always your voter ID.

There's no rational reason to change the rules now. Those pushing the change just want to make another barrier to voting.

If you send in a ballot, then yes - you have to sign it. If you show up at the polling place, no signature is required UNLESS you don't have ID. Please stop repeating misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am FOR enabling everyone to vote; but not requiring a photo id is insane. What would prevent a random person from voting over and over again through the day? Also just about everything else requires a photo id and you are good with those things. Here are examples of things that require a photo id:
cities such as NYC and DC require a photo id along with a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
board an airplane
adopt a pet
apply for a fishing license

But how dare we ask for a ID to vote??? Really??? Would you let someone without a verified identity into your child's school? But it is OK for someone without a verified identity to help elect the leader of the free world???? huh???

Duh... do you not know how voting works?

A -- you are checked in. You have to SIGN your name, which is matched to what they have on file.

Then you are given a ballot. You vote. Your vote is recorded, and the fact that YOU voted is recorded. Other ballots under your name are not counted.


https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/09/04/double-trouble-how-states-keep-people-from-voting-twice.aspx
More details.

We can provide generalities, though. In general, the reason it is hard to vote twice in the same state for the same election is that states keep a record of who has voted. The first ballot that is recorded from a given voter gets counted and that precludes them from voting again.

Let’s say someone drops off or otherwise returns an absentee ballot. Once the voter’s information on the outside of the absentee ballot envelope is verified, it is standard practice to mark the voter’s registration file with the fact that that person has voted.

If that person then shows up at the polls, the poll book will show that she or he already voted absentee. If the voter insists on voting in person, a provisional ballot will likely be used, which is put in an envelope with the voter’s information on the outside. After the fact, the data will be reviewed, and only the first-recorded ballot would be counted.

On the flip side, if a person votes in person and then a voted absentee ballot from them later arrives at the election office, the in-person vote would already be recorded and the absentee ballot would be rejected. That voter shouldn’t be surprised to receive a letter from election officials asking why two ballots were cast—even though only one was counted.

What's to prevent me from showing up, saying I'm you, signing your name, and then voting?

Your signature wouldn't match the real signature on file. Duh.

Governor Youngkin's son tried this twice last fall and was busted twice. The system works.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/glenn-youngkins-underage-son-tried-to-vote-in-virginia-governors-election-officials-say/2870695/

DP. He didn't "try" anything. He asked if he could vote and was told no. He didn't sign anything at all and he showed his own license. Why are you such a liar?