Antiwork movement

[Anonymous]

Companies need to pay workers more. Just take it out of the parasitic c-suite and pay workers more. The gap is too big.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People aren't working because they don't have to. There's simply too much easy money sloshing around. Raise rates by 300 bps, cut all the BS covid-era cash payouts, and raise the inheritance tax, and people will work.

There's no more easy money sloshing around.

You guys said "wait until September when the covid unemployment runs out, they'll be fighting over these restaurant jobs!" Well, September came and went and there's not one restaurant in my town that I follow that doesn't have some kind of FB notice posted about altered hours because of a lack of workers.

Then it was "wait until the extra child payments end!" Annnnndddd again, where are the workers?

The workers left. They used programs offered during the pandemic to learn new skills and go back to school to better themselves.

Some unemployed households received pandemic related benefits in excess of $100,000 and didn't have to use any of that money for rent. Given all that free money, most of them don't need to return to work right away and can be selective about the jobs they apply for.

Even if this were true, why is it a bad thing for people to be selective about jobs? Likely they are seeking higher pay and/or better schedules that are more compatible with child-rearing or with going to school. In the long run, these things will make people more self-sufficient and less in need of government aid in the future. It's a good thing.

[BlueFredneck]

Do not, my friends, become addicted to cheap labor. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence.

On the other hand, we can all ride immortal to Valhalla, shiny and chrome.

[Anonymous]

The quit toks are epic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've seen the impact of the anti-work movement throughout the holidays, but no more so than when I recently went to the Clarksburg Outlets. The Nike store had a sign that they were closed on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays.

I assume it's due to an employee shortage, but I can't imagine how much it's costing them in business. Plus, I can't believe they can get away with not being open daily without getting fined by the Outlet.

Nike would prefer it if people ordered directly from their website.

The dtc margins for them are way better.

[Anonymous]

I'm amazed at fast the subreddit is growing. Wow.

Make no mistake.. this is the beginning of something bigger thats happening.

[Anonymous]

Boomers are so pressed they won’t have anyone to micromanage at work anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this is why everything is short staffed nowadays?

I love how people think that this very small movement is to blame for the work shortage and yet you can't possibly understand that with daycares being closed and things being very inconsistent that some parents have had to leave the workforce or reduce their hours. If you're not getting consistent daycare and still paying for it then it makes more sense to quit your job or work part-time and not pay for daycare for short-term.

We are by no means wealthy but we have a 165k HHI and my daycare closed between Christmas and New Year's and just closed for snow that hasn't even come and continues to talk about how they might close.

At this point we're considering staggering our work schedules and withdrawing our son from care until he goes into kindergarten. The only reason I'm able to do that or even consider that as an option is because I have a very flexible tech job. But I can tell you that many people are not going to continue to pay for daycare continue to work have to use our leave take leave without pay while having to go through closure after closure after closure it's been 2 years.

Part of this is that people are getting better jobs part of this is that people can't work with young children and inconsistent child care and the other part is maybe people are retiring early. It isn't just one thing.

why this continues to fly over people's head is beyond what I will ever undertsand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boomers are so pressed they won’t have anyone to micromanage at work anymore.

😂 exactly

[Anonymous]

Agree there are a lot of different things going on.

But I have three millennial relatives that are currently out of the labor market—they all chose careers in non-profit but don’t want to work a lot (40 hours/week) or commit to regular attendance for lowish pay. But they don’t want to work for corporate America. I’ve tried to make the point that if you put in the work in your twenties you build a skill set and credibility that allows you to have flexibility as a mid-level professional where people let you set your schedule because they really need you, but they aren’t buying it. I guess the question is whether the labor market needs the untested 20-somethings enough to give them all this flexibility without their proving themselves first. I feel like the Gen x folks will take this on the chin, as we’ll need to cover for the millennials who are working inconsistent hours and don’t have the experience to make up for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge fan and I hope it has an impact on employers. I like working but I don’t wanna do it more than 20 hours a week. And I want a decent salary for that time.

Move to Europe?

[Anonymous]

My friend was a construction superintendent. She has the best work ethics among people I know. She worked her butt off, getting up at 4am everyday, so she could be at the work site by 6am. Then sitting in traffic for 2 hours to get back to her home in the afternoon. She was laid off at the beginning of covid. Her unemployment was not a lot but enough for her to live on, and her state paid medical insurance was better than the crap her little construction companies provided. She had a year to take care of herself and reflect why the heck she was working herself to death. She sold her house, moved to Belize last year and is living a leisurely and inexpensive life for herself on her savings.

She is not working class, not young (51) and not lazy. She just had enough with the shitty way her work life was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a huge fan and I hope it has an impact on employers. I like working but I don’t wanna do it more than 20 hours a week. And I want a decent salary for that time.

Move to Europe?

Plenty of people on DCUM work less than 20 hours and get paid banks. The difference is that they are not doing working class jobs.

[Anonymous]

Antiwork is roughly 50% genuine and 50% foreign agitators (Chinese and Russian) trying to radicalize young people here who never worked in the crappy jobs people complain about in that subreddit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Antiwork is roughly 50% genuine and 50% foreign agitators (Chinese and Russian) trying to radicalize young people here who never worked in the crappy jobs people complain about in that subreddit

Why do these communists have so much $ to pay for agitators