Antiwork movement

[Anonymous]

What do people think of this? People, especially millennials and Gen z, are quitting en masse and basically refusing to work. There are employment shortages all over the country. Workers are striking more than ever before.

What are people's thoughts?

[Anonymous]

I think the antiwork movement is for a very specific subset of people who are able to depend on others, usually parents, to provide their basic needs.

I honestly haven’t heard about it other than on Reddit, where it’s clearly mostly college-aged people still living at home.

[Anonymous]

Does this movement never plan to work again? How do they propose they can actually survive?

Anyone who has exited the workforce will either be back because food and shelter ain’t free or they will never be back in any significant way because they have savings.

[Anonymous]

This video covers it super well:

One of the reasons is that people simply have more options for other work/other means of making money than ever before. They dont have to settle for that factory or waiter job

[Anonymous]

I'm a little dubious about the existence of a "movement" that's primarily on Reddit. Either way, I don't really have an opinion on if other people work. I suspect most of them will return to work if pay and conditions are good and it's up to employers to convince them to come back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little dubious about the existence of a "movement" that's primarily on Reddit. Either way, I don't really have an opinion on if other people work. I suspect most of them will return to work if pay and conditions are good and it's up to employers to convince them to come back.

So how will this change the working conditions then? Especially given employment shortages nationwide?

[Anonymous]

I joined this movement, but I call it 'retirement'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I joined this movement, but I call it 'retirement'.

IKR? Nobody has a problem with retirement, early retirement, FIRE, or being so wealthy you don't have to work. But young people living within their means (whatever the source of those means) to avoid a dead-end traditional job is somehow triggering.

I have a traditional 9-5 job and a nice lifestyle. If I could afford my lifestyle without working I'd quit tomorrow. I have several friends who made different lifestyle choices (no house, no kids) and have non traditional income or temporary jobs. They're not in debt or mooching, they just made different choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I joined this movement, but I call it 'retirement'.

IKR? Nobody has a problem with retirement, early retirement, FIRE, or being so wealthy you don't have to work. But young people living within their means (whatever the source of those means) to avoid a dead-end traditional job is somehow triggering.

I have a traditional 9-5 job and a nice lifestyle. If I could afford my lifestyle without working I'd quit tomorrow. I have several friends who made different lifestyle choices (no house, no kids) and have non traditional income or temporary jobs. They're not in debt or mooching, they just made different choices.

Because now the boomers wont get their cheap labor to prop up their cheap meals out at Applebees or get to shout at some confused college kid in the hardware store. They hate the loss of power

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a little dubious about the existence of a "movement" that's primarily on Reddit. Either way, I don't really have an opinion on if other people work. I suspect most of them will return to work if pay and conditions are good and it's up to employers to convince them to come back.

If you read the subreddit there’s a large number of horrifyingly bad managers out there. Treat people like crap, and you end up with an anti work movement.

I mean, look at what happened with the recent tornado in Kentucky. They threatened to fire people who didn’t want to come in during life-threatening storms. These people were making candles, for Pete’s sake. They died for candles.

[Anonymous]

Millennial here, I quit my sad toxic corporate job to work at a small but elite institution for 2x pay. I didn't quit to play video games in my moms basement.

[Anonymous]

So this is why everything is short staffed nowadays?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Millennial here, I quit my sad toxic corporate job to work at a small but elite institution for 2x pay. I didn't quit to play video games in my moms basement.

Moving to a different job for twice the pay has nothing to do with the anti work movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Millennial here, I quit my sad toxic corporate job to work at a small but elite institution for 2x pay. I didn't quit to play video games in my moms basement.

That’s not what the anti work movement is, though. They are explicitly not about work reforms or increased worker rights-they don’t think people should have to work if they don’t want to-I think it’s tied to the ubi movement. What you’re describing is completely different.

[Anonymous]

I'm 37, make over 200K a year, and have worked since I was 16 with the longest break being 2 weeks for my wedding and honeymoon. I've managed teams as large as 18.

I find many of the anti-work points compelling. At a minimum, I think a lot more people should be unionizing.