do college admissions get ugly at the Big3 when all the parents are Ivy grads?

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

Sidwell parents don’t have access to the Naviance scattergrams. Even if you had access to the scatter gram, your kid would have graduated before you see where the other applicants fell within Naviance.

1) yes, parents can see the scattergrams
2) I was referring to being able to identify previous years of applicants

No. Parents cannot see the scattergrams unless you ask the college counselor to look at it with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy. The kid who has two H alumni parents and is also an athlete/URM gets the spot for H!

Or what typically happens is that the spot (singular) goes to an unconnected URM and the Harvard legacies go 0/20. Its wild at the Big3 schools.

It's just crazy that you have this many Ivy grads who are outlier successes stories for their universities (CEOs, managing partners at their law firms, people with national prominence in their fields, etc) and none of their (very bright) kids will get into their parent's alma mater.

Unconnected teen at a Big 3? The "minority"" kids are all rich white fake Hispanics and the light-skinned Black kids have multi-millionaire parents in the highest rungs of US academia, political, legal and business power.

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Anonymous wrote:There are thousands (5 thousand?) Yale alumni here in the DMV, according to my alum newsletter. There are probably similar numbers for HPSM. It's just not practical for all of our/their kids to get in.

+1. Good point. If their kids are Big 3 overachievers, they still get into and then dominate at great schools like Penn, UChicago, UVA. I've never met a Harvard alum who thought it was some birthright for their kid to go to Harvard -- that's probably only a posture maybe billionaire alums or nine figure multi-generation alum families have.

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

It's crazy that Sidwell doesn't publish a college destination list each year. No justification for not doing it.

Plenty of justification. Non-cynical justification: don’t make students feel bad/Quaker everyone’s equal stuff. Cynical: sidwell, more than any other school, trades on mystique.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy. The kid who has two H alumni parents and is also an athlete/URM gets the spot for H!

Or what typically happens is that the spot (singular) goes to an unconnected URM and the Harvard legacies go 0/20. Its wild at the Big3 schools.

It's just crazy that you have this many Ivy grads who are outlier successes stories for their universities (CEOs, managing partners at their law firms, people with national prominence in their fields, etc) and none of their (very bright) kids will get into their parent's alma mater.

Unconnected teen at a Big 3? The "minority"" kids are all rich white fake Hispanics and the light-skinned Black kids have multi-millionaire parents in the highest rungs of US academia, political, legal and business power.

Hang in there PP, once you get out of the DC Bubble and into a University with a National and world wide applicant base, you'll see plenty of really bright, genuinely talented young people who are 1st generation college

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

It's crazy that Sidwell doesn't publish a college destination list each year. No justification for not doing it.

Plenty of justification. Non-cynical justification: don’t make students feel bad/Quaker everyone’s equal stuff. Cynical: sidwell, more than any other school, trades on mystique.

It's the latter and it's BS and not a justification. If it was the former, they wouldn't profile the athletes either. They claim that they want to de-stress the college process, but concealing a list within the community validates the idea that it is stressful and competitive and some people should "feel bad" about where they are going.

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Maybe its because only a few years ago the mother of a Sidwell SR called the Admissions office of an IVY to inform on/defame a kid who's application to that Ivy she considered a threat to her snowflakes chances of Admission

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe its because only a few years ago the mother of a Sidwell SR called the Admissions office of an IVY to inform on/defame a kid who's application to that Ivy she considered a threat to her snowflakes chances of Admission

That wouldn't have anything to do with publishing a list after the students have graduated.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe its because only a few years ago the mother of a Sidwell SR called the Admissions office of an IVY to inform on/defame a kid who's application to that Ivy she considered a threat to her snowflakes chances of Admission

Don’t forget the death threat parent. They ran that poor Director out. Nice guy, he didn’t deserve all that.

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

It's crazy that Sidwell doesn't publish a college destination list each year. No justification for not doing it.

Plenty of justification. Non-cynical justification: don’t make students feel bad/Quaker everyone’s equal stuff. Cynical: sidwell, more than any other school, trades on mystique.

It's the latter and it's BS and not a justification. If it was the former, they wouldn't profile the athletes either. They claim that they want to de-stress the college process, but concealing a list within the community validates the idea that it is stressful and competitive and some people should "feel bad" about where they are going.

I know it’s the latter, I was being a little facetious. It’s ridiculous, but lack of transparency is useful to them in maintaining the brand.

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

It's crazy that Sidwell doesn't publish a college destination list each year. No justification for not doing it.

Why? The publish a 4 year list. If you track it each year, you can figure it out. Why do you care where someone you don't know is going to college? That is weird.

Because a school should celebrate its graduates. Sidwell celebrates its student-athletes and provides information about where they are going to college. It's in the magazine (leaving aside the social media coverage). Why not celebrate the entire class in the magazine?

Also, I don't know why you assume that I don't know the graduates, but sophomores and juniors who actually do know these kids shouldn't need to piece together where their peer leaders and older friends are going to college from word of mouth or following Instagram accounts.

If you know them that well, then you will know where they are going to school. Your kid probably is connected via Instagram, ask them.

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Anonymous wrote:Easy. The kid who has two H alumni parents and is also an athlete/URM gets the spot for H!

Or what typically happens is that the spot (singular) goes to an unconnected URM and the Harvard legacies go 0/20. Its wild at the Big3 schools.

It's just crazy that you have this many Ivy grads who are outlier successes stories for their universities (CEOs, managing partners at their law firms, people with national prominence in their fields, etc) and none of their (very bright) kids will get into their parent's alma mater.

Unconnected teen at a Big 3? The "minority"" kids are all rich white fake Hispanics and the light-skinned Black kids have multi-millionaire parents in the highest rungs of US academia, political, legal and business power.

Hang in there PP, once you get out of the DC Bubble and into a University with a National and world wide applicant base, you'll see plenty of really bright, genuinely talented young people who are 1st generation college

Always nice when you can give comfort to bigots.

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

It's crazy that Sidwell doesn't publish a college destination list each year. No justification for not doing it.

Why? The publish a 4 year list. If you track it each year, you can figure it out. Why do you care where someone you don't know is going to college? That is weird.

Because a school should celebrate its graduates. Sidwell celebrates its student-athletes and provides information about where they are going to college. It's in the magazine (leaving aside the social media coverage). Why not celebrate the entire class in the magazine?

Also, I don't know why you assume that I don't know the graduates, but sophomores and juniors who actually do know these kids shouldn't need to piece together where their peer leaders and older friends are going to college from word of mouth or following Instagram accounts.

If you know them that well, then you will know where they are going to school. Your kid probably is connected via Instagram, ask them.

Honestly, you're just making up excuses and justifications. The school should celebrate its graduates. Period.

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

It's crazy that Sidwell doesn't publish a college destination list each year. No justification for not doing it.

Plenty of justification. Non-cynical justification: don’t make students feel bad/Quaker everyone’s equal stuff. Cynical: sidwell, more than any other school, trades on mystique.

They post their 4 or 5 year lists and update it each year. There is simply no reason for the public to know that Bobby went to Haverford unless Bobby wants to let people know that.

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nope. sidwell parent here and no idea where to find this information. it would be interesting to see a list. so if you can tell us where to find it, that would be great.

Sidwell CCO tracks this and sends 5-year info to schools students apply to. But they don't share it with parents.

Not Quakerly? How do parents put up with this crap?

The school is small enough that you can track who went to what school and see their Naviance information by cross listing yourself. As such, to protect privacy, the school doesn't share the comprehensive lists by grade. However, each class posts informal lists, and this happens at most schools. That is where the previous information came from.

It's crazy that Sidwell doesn't publish a college destination list each year. No justification for not doing it.

Why? The publish a 4 year list. If you track it each year, you can figure it out. Why do you care where someone you don't know is going to college? That is weird.

Because a school should celebrate its graduates. Sidwell celebrates its student-athletes and provides information about where they are going to college. It's in the magazine (leaving aside the social media coverage). Why not celebrate the entire class in the magazine?

Also, I don't know why you assume that I don't know the graduates, but sophomores and juniors who actually do know these kids shouldn't need to piece together where their peer leaders and older friends are going to college from word of mouth or following Instagram accounts.

If you know them that well, then you will know where they are going to school. Your kid probably is connected via Instagram, ask them.

Honestly, you're just making up excuses and justifications. The school should celebrate its graduates. Period.

They do. It's called graduation. The seniors also have a "shirt day" and generally post on social media where they are going.