Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

So you’ll have a long commute to a beautifully renovated school (Oakton). Meanwhile other kids have shorter commutes to schools that are falling apart and will see their renovations delayed because of all the money that will be spent on Western.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

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There were not opt-out options for 9th and 10th grade students for South County or Westfield HS when they opened.
It is telling that these options are available this time around.

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Anonymous wrote:There were not opt-out options for 9th and 10th grade students for South County or Westfield HS when they opened.
It is telling that these options are available this time around.

It's because they aren't confident this is a school kids will want to attend, at least not yet. Providing an opt-in option is evidence of their uncertainty.

It reminds me of the School Board voting for a boundary study but trying to avoid accountability by putting in on Reid and her awful consultants. They never want to make hard decisions and be held directly responsible for them.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

Those people with very young kids might start to feel differently as their kids approach MS and HS. I didn’t think much about schools other than ranking when my kids were little but now I understand
that it can be harder for kids to stand out and have access to certain opportunities at a large high school with very competitive families. My kids have also made friends zoned for different schools in the surrounding area so it’s not like the only way to go to school with friends is to stick with one group the entire way through.

And yes, overcrowding at Oakton may absolutely change their thinking later if they are looking at being rezoned to South Lakes.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

Those people with very young kids might start to feel differently as their kids approach MS and HS. I didn’t think much about schools other than ranking when my kids were little but now I understand
that it can be harder for kids to stand out and have access to certain opportunities at a large high school with very competitive families. My kids have also made friends zoned for different schools in the surrounding area so it’s not like the only way to go to school with friends is to stick with one group the entire way through.

And yes, overcrowding at Oakton may absolutely change their thinking later if they are looking at being rezoned to South Lakes.

But if Crossfield/Carson is rezoned to WHS does that eliminate the competitive families this thread keeps bringing up? Additionally when this school performs well as I’m sure it will then more competitive families will move into the boundary. I hear you on the potential rezoning but respectfully I do think continuing to use a potential move to South Lakes as a reason to want to go to WHS is belittling to that HS which is a powerhouse in several areas. Additionally, as much as people want to keep bringing up construction we don’t have crystal balls.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

DP. Agree. I think a lot of younger families are also more recent buyers in the area. They sought out houses zoned to Oakton for a reason. They wanted their kids to go to Oakton and still do.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

DP. Agree. I think a lot of younger families are also more recent buyers in the area. They sought out houses zoned to Oakton for a reason. They wanted their kids to go to Oakton and still do.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

Those people with very young kids might start to feel differently as their kids approach MS and HS. I didn’t think much about schools other than ranking when my kids were little but now I understand
that it can be harder for kids to stand out and have access to certain opportunities at a large high school with very competitive families. My kids have also made friends zoned for different schools in the surrounding area so it’s not like the only way to go to school with friends is to stick with one group the entire way through.

And yes, overcrowding at Oakton may absolutely change their thinking later if they are looking at being rezoned to South Lakes.

But if Crossfield/Carson is rezoned to WHS does that eliminate the competitive families this thread keeps bringing up? Additionally when this school performs well as I’m sure it will then more competitive families will move into the boundary. I hear you on the potential rezoning but respectfully I do think continuing to use a potential move to South Lakes as a reason to want to go to WHS is belittling to that HS which is a powerhouse in several areas. Additionally, as much as people want to keep bringing up construction we don’t have crystal balls.

WHS is going to be more socioeconomically diverse than Oakton regardless of how the final boundaries are drawn, because we know that Coates and McNair will almost certainly go there. Some Crossfield/Carson seem to think they make or break the quality of a school (like that lady at that meeting who basically said that), but Oakton has plenty of other kids from affluent and competitive families with or without Crossfield going there. You might find talking about SLHS belitting, but I am going based off what I have heard people say about it, not my own personal opinion. The people zoned for Oakton who are fighting Western do not want South Lakes under any circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield/Carson moms freaking out about a meeting apparently being held with 8th graders about the new high school. Are their kids so fragile that they can’t hear about the possibility of there being a new school that some kids might choose to attend? Afraid their kids will actually want to go there? I’m baffled by the freakout. 8th graders from all over the country make choices along with their parents about where to attend high school in areas with they have school choice or if they attend a private/Catholic school. They are old enough to weigh pros and cons and talk with parents about their choices. Why are we acting like kids can’t handle anything that might be stressful for them? If this is their biggest concern I’d say life is pretty cushy.

What is really funny is the the RootedinOakton website claims that sending them to KAA will separate them from their peers? Aren't their peers at Carson? What other Oakton kids go to Crossfield?

Is this being orchestrated by the Crossfield AAP parents at Navy? Makes no sense at all.

Crossfield moms were at Meren’s community meeting. They said Crossfield kids should go to Franklin.

Of course they did. They are cherry picking who their children’s peers are and saying, their peers are Navy and Waples Mill kids, not kids they have been at middle school with. Crossfield AAP parents at Navy may be part of the opposition to KAA but they’re not the ones leading the rooted in Oakton stuff.

It’s about sports and wanting to be around a certain demographic while avoiding another. It’s one thing to say you love Oakton and want to be a part of it, it’s another to say that other kids living in your own zip code are not your child’s peers. I think that’s a really gross thing to say, especially to people who live right across the parkway from you in your own neighborhood.

If crossfield went to Franklin but your child is in AAP then they'd still have to go to Carson right? Talk about isolating kids. Crossfield AAP kids would only have each other going into Oakton. Is that correct?

No, that is not correct. Franklin has an excellent AAP program already, and FCPS is also eliminating middle school AAP centers, so for two reasons, no Franklin-assigned student has to go to Carson.

You are MISSING THE POINT. The Crossfield parents who are pushing to both stay at Oakton AND to move Crossfield to Franklin HAVE KIDS AT CARSON IN AAP. THEIR KIDS WILL STAY AT CARSON. They are trying to make a decision for OTHER FAMILIES. Not theirs. This is the whole problem with that group of moms. THEY ARE BEING SELFISH. They don't are about you or anyone else. They want their kids to stay Carson-Oakton even if everyone else's kids have to go to Franklin.

This is the opposite of what they are saying. WE ARE PART OF THE CARSON COMMUNITY. Our kids play sports with kids at Carson, not kids at Franklin. STOP TRYING TO TEAR MY KID AWAY FROM FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY JUST SO YOUR SNOTTY CHILD CAN PLAY LACROSSE AT OAKTON.

Are you okay? Your anger and yelling about this are over the top. Your post also seems contradictory, perhaps due to your anger clouding your ability to communicate clearly.

Our kids play sports with kids at Carson, not kids at Franklin.

Really? Every one of my kids' sports teams, both rec and travel, from K-8 have had kids from multiple schools, CERTAINLY from both Franklin and Carson, as well as their ES feeders. That's been true for all four of my kids, across multiple sports (including baseball, basketball, lacrosse, soccer, and volleyball), so I'm surprised that your children's sports teams are segregated by the middle school. That seems very odd.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

DP. Agree. I think a lot of younger families are also more recent buyers in the area. They sought out houses zoned to Oakton for a reason. They wanted their kids to go to Oakton and still do.

Then why did they buy homes with 4 other high schools closer to them than Oakton?

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

Those people with very young kids might start to feel differently as their kids approach MS and HS. I didn’t think much about schools other than ranking when my kids were little but now I understand
that it can be harder for kids to stand out and have access to certain opportunities at a large high school with very competitive families. My kids have also made friends zoned for different schools in the surrounding area so it’s not like the only way to go to school with friends is to stick with one group the entire way through.

And yes, overcrowding at Oakton may absolutely change their thinking later if they are looking at being rezoned to South Lakes.

But if Crossfield/Carson is rezoned to WHS does that eliminate the competitive families this thread keeps bringing up? Additionally when this school performs well as I’m sure it will then more competitive families will move into the boundary. I hear you on the potential rezoning but respectfully I do think continuing to use a potential move to South Lakes as a reason to want to go to WHS is belittling to that HS which is a powerhouse in several areas. Additionally, as much as people want to keep bringing up construction we don’t have crystal balls.

WHS is going to be more socioeconomically diverse than Oakton regardless of how the final boundaries are drawn, because we know that Coates and McNair will almost certainly go there. Some Crossfield/Carson seem to think they make or break the quality of a school (like that lady at that meeting who basically said that), but Oakton has plenty of other kids from affluent and competitive families with or without Crossfield going there. You might find talking about SLHS belitting, but I am going based off what I have heard people say about it, not my own personal opinion. The people zoned for Oakton who are fighting Western do not want South Lakes under any circumstances.

South Lakes is a good school but it has IB and most people don’t want IB. Replace IB with AP and you have a school that is pretty close to Chantilly and Centerville. But people don’t want IB, not the way FCPS runs it.

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Anonymous wrote:Crossfield/Carson moms freaking out about a meeting apparently being held with 8th graders about the new high school. Are their kids so fragile that they can’t hear about the possibility of there being a new school that some kids might choose to attend? Afraid their kids will actually want to go there? I’m baffled by the freakout. 8th graders from all over the country make choices along with their parents about where to attend high school in areas with they have school choice or if they attend a private/Catholic school. They are old enough to weigh pros and cons and talk with parents about their choices. Why are we acting like kids can’t handle anything that might be stressful for them? If this is their biggest concern I’d say life is pretty cushy.

What is really funny is the the RootedinOakton website claims that sending them to KAA will separate them from their peers? Aren't their peers at Carson? What other Oakton kids go to Crossfield?

Is this being orchestrated by the Crossfield AAP parents at Navy? Makes no sense at all.

Crossfield moms were at Meren’s community meeting. They said Crossfield kids should go to Franklin.

Of course they did. They are cherry picking who their children’s peers are and saying, their peers are Navy and Waples Mill kids, not kids they have been at middle school with. Crossfield AAP parents at Navy may be part of the opposition to KAA but they’re not the ones leading the rooted in Oakton stuff.

It’s about sports and wanting to be around a certain demographic while avoiding another. It’s one thing to say you love Oakton and want to be a part of it, it’s another to say that other kids living in your own zip code are not your child’s peers. I think that’s a really gross thing to say, especially to people who live right across the parkway from you in your own neighborhood.

If crossfield went to Franklin but your child is in AAP then they'd still have to go to Carson right? Talk about isolating kids. Crossfield AAP kids would only have each other going into Oakton. Is that correct?

No, that is not correct. Franklin has an excellent AAP program already, and FCPS is also eliminating middle school AAP centers, so for two reasons, no Franklin-assigned student has to go to Carson.

You are MISSING THE POINT. The Crossfield parents who are pushing to both stay at Oakton AND to move Crossfield to Franklin HAVE KIDS AT CARSON IN AAP. THEIR KIDS WILL STAY AT CARSON. They are trying to make a decision for OTHER FAMILIES. Not theirs. This is the whole problem with that group of moms. THEY ARE BEING SELFISH. They don't are about you or anyone else. They want their kids to stay Carson-Oakton even if everyone else's kids have to go to Franklin.

This is the opposite of what they are saying. WE ARE PART OF THE CARSON COMMUNITY. Our kids play sports with kids at Carson, not kids at Franklin. STOP TRYING TO TEAR MY KID AWAY FROM FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY JUST SO YOUR SNOTTY CHILD CAN PLAY LACROSSE AT OAKTON.

Are you okay? Your anger and yelling about this are over the top. Your post also seems contradictory, perhaps due to your anger clouding your ability to communicate clearly.

Our kids play sports with kids at Carson, not kids at Franklin.

Really? Every one of my kids' sports teams, both rec and travel, from K-8 have had kids from multiple schools, CERTAINLY from both Franklin and Carson, as well as their ES feeders. That's been true for all four of my kids, across multiple sports (including baseball, basketball, lacrosse, soccer, and volleyball), so I'm surprised that your children's sports teams are segregated by the middle school. That seems very odd. [/quote]

I thought Carson and Franklin kids played CYA. I find that very odd, as well.
Maybe Carson kids play Vienna or Reston?

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

Have you contacted your School Board member?

I’m indifferent with the outcome as I think Oakton and WHS will both be great schools but I keep seeing this “older kid” thing which I’m sure are true for those around you. But all of those I have spoken to in my non-Franklin Farm neighborhood want to stay zoned to Oakton including a few with very young kids. I think the desire to stay at Oakton is strong and separate from the Rooted in Oakton movement…it’s individual people like yourself sending emails, etc. I hope you and those with a similar desire to go to WHS are advocating with the board and not just here where no one will see. Most people regardless of high school like their current high school, which is why FCPS will need to make tough decisions but I’m sure their perception right now is this area wants to stay zoned to Oakton, which for better or for worse I think is accurate…I didn’t say “need” to preempt the next chain of responses about bus rides, new construction by Oakton, etc.

DP. Agree. I think a lot of younger families are also more recent buyers in the area. They sought out houses zoned to Oakton for a reason. They wanted their kids to go to Oakton and still do.

Then why did they buy homes with 4 other high schools closer to them than Oakton?

You frequently assert on these discussion boards that anyone who buys a home where they can’t hear the principal fart should expect to be reboundaried. Not sure it’s quite the banger of a talking point that you think it is.