Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

No. Because the Real Time Health Monitoring System also imploded. I do not think you understand the immense pressure the water creates.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?

Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.

So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

Lesson - when a sailor says "ICEBERG ahead" the captain should make attempts to avoid it - not ignore the sailor. This has been proven by many many accounts.

They listened to the sailor on lookout, but you can’t stop or turn a ship that size on a dime. They should have taken a less direct route to avoid the ice field after they were warned about it. They should have been sailing slower. The water tight compartments should have been completely watertight, not watertight only up to a certain height. They should have had enough lifeboats to evacuate everyone. They shouldn’t have told people the boat was unsinkable.

Any way.... back to the topic.....

Have they said whether they intend to try to bring up the debris or only take pictures? Maybe the actual pieces on hand will help explain what happeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Would the implosion have to be caused by banging into something (like part of the Titanic or other debris, not a gd orca) or could it just be that the material(s) failed? Could they have been stuck down there and signaling (banging) and THEN imploded due to prolonged exposure to the depth?

I do understand the banging could be totally unrelated to the sub.

Communications stopped before the sub finished its descent.

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The debris was found about 500 meters off the bow of the titanic.

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Anonymous wrote:Well at least they didn’t suffer.

I hope they didn't suffer. Just because we found pieces does not mean death was qyick or easy.

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Anonymous wrote:The debris was found about 500 meters off the bow of the titanic.

so they didn’t even get to see it.

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Anonymous wrote:Well at least they didn’t suffer.

I hope they didn't suffer. Just because we found pieces does not mean death was qyick or easy.

I'm pretty sure implosion means it was quick.

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Anonymous wrote:What were those banging sounds ?? Was hoping it was them.

I was wondering this too? What was the banging/pinging?

New York Post had a sonar expert saying these sounds could have come from the wreck of the Titanic.

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

No. Because the Real Time Health Monitoring System also imploded. I do not think you understand the immense pressure the water creates.

I read pressure down there is about 4000 tons/square meters. So, it's like having 2000 cars (assuming a car wt 2 tons (i.e., ~4000lbs)) stacked up top of a plate that's 1 meter by 1 meter.

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Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bid'st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
O hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea.


RIP

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Anonymous wrote:Would the implosion have to be caused by banging into something (like part of the Titanic or other debris, not a gd orca) or could it just be that the material(s) failed? Could they have been stuck down there and signaling (banging) and THEN imploded due to prolonged exposure to the depth?

I do understand the banging could be totally unrelated to the sub.

Communications stopped before the sub finished its descent.

I know, but apparently they've lost communication on prior trips and all turned out fine. Given how close the debris field is to the Titanic makes me think they did make it down there. Otherwise how likely is it it would have imploded closer to the surface and then drifted right to where the Titanic rests?

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Ugh, I feel so sad for the mom of the 19 year old. She must be beside herself.

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

No. Because the Real Time Health Monitoring System also imploded. I do not think you understand the immense pressure the water creates.

I mean, I never claimed to, so I also don't understand why you felt the need to add that dig (though I can come up with plausible reasons).

Anyways, I know it's a lot of pressure, but I would think the pressure increases gradually the deeper you go, not instanteously. And that the monitoring system would pick up on that.

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I hope these people are found and rescued, and that with their billions they will pay back the costs of being rescued from what I agree was entirely a vanity project at now great financial and emotional cost to the public.

I guess you feel the titanic victims themselves should have been billed for their rescue.

Traveling via a normal mode of transportation is not a vanity project, so no.

I don't care about the cost of this rescue mission. The government wastes so much money on a daily basis, this is a drop in the bucket. It's hard to get excited about this. Our tax dollars are often wasted. So what.

You don't have to get excited about this but on balance I think that it would be better the billionaires to pay for their own search and rescue missions instead of the taxpayers.

I can think of lots of ways to spare taxpayers. This barely registers.

Okay, but I'm not wrong.

Well you are, because they won't be billed.

LOL I am not saying they will be billed.

You've decided that you're right about who should pay and who shouldn't. Who agrees with you? Not the Coast Guard and US Government. So, what exactly are you right about? The government wastes a shit ton of money every day. And you think stopping these rare rescues would make even the slightest difference?

A lot of people agree with me but that isn't even the point, I think that if you sit and think for one minute whether a billionaire--one individual who has a THOUSAND million dollars--should pay for a rescue operation, or if it should be the US government which is financed in large part through working people, you should pick the billionaire.

And in case this wasn't clear, this is just a thought exercise.

Whatever. Get over it.

Who the hell are you again? Oh, right. Nobody.

Just like you. But at least there are better people than you out there who do the right thing and don't make petty decisions because they are jealous of the rich. I'm glad they call the shots and not you.

Yes, we’re alllll super jealous of the people dying two miles underwater with a full bank account they’ll never use. You’re a moron.

They aren't taking their money with them. Their survivors will still have it. And they won't have to spend a penny on the rescue. And that makes you big time mad.

No, it doesn’t in the slightest, and that bothers you that it doesn’t. Good.

You’re the one complaining about tax dollars. Guess you changed your mind and are indifferent now. Glad you have come around.

Oh, dear, you’re not very bright. I wrote the PP to which you replied, but I didn’t write anything like you’re claiming. That was another poster. You do know you’re speaking with multiple people here, right?

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Anonymous wrote:If thete was an implosion, wouldn't their Real Time Health Monitoring system have picked up on it?

No. Because the Real Time Health Monitoring System also imploded. I do not think you understand the immense pressure the water creates.

I mean, I never claimed to, so I also don't understand why you felt the need to add that dig (though I can come up with plausible reasons).

Anyways, I know it's a lot of pressure, but I would think the pressure increases gradually the deeper you go, not instanteously. And that the monitoring system would pick up on that.

I agree. It was a slow descent.