Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one cares about AMC scores. Students have been cheating on these tests.

Actually MIT asks applicants to list their AMC scores so people do care when it matters. (You should check your anti-asian racism at the door of your kid's school.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just some quick stats from publicly available data from the AMC 10 results of "9th" graders from last year (class of 2024) and this year (class of 2025 - Holistic review process) of TJHSST and local NOVA schools

Honors roll of TJHSST reduced from 85% to 60 %
Honors roll of Other schools increased from 15 to 40%

Distinguished honor roll for TJHSST reduced from 100% to 0%
Distinguished honor roll for Other schools increased from 0 to 100%

Maybe the kids good in Math are not good in all areas identified by the Holistic Approach.

It may be difficult to find public data for Science Olympiads etc. as they are not published like AMC scores.

So based on your quick analysis, which are the other FCPS schools where those "other (FCPS) schools" distinguished honor roll students are attending?

Ie which schools are the "new TJ altneratives"?

[Anonymous]

DP. A lot are Langley. That part of the county is where the brilliant kids are being missed for TJ admission by the fairly random new process.

[Anonymous]

Very bad numbers indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just some quick stats from publicly available data from the AMC 10 results of "9th" graders from last year (class of 2024) and this year (class of 2025 - Holistic review process) of TJHSST and local NOVA schools

Honors roll of TJHSST reduced from 85% to 60 %
Honors roll of Other schools increased from 15 to 40%

Distinguished honor roll for TJHSST reduced from 100% to 0%
Distinguished honor roll for Other schools increased from 0 to 100%

Maybe the kids good in Math are not good in all areas identified by the Holistic Approach.

It may be difficult to find public data for Science Olympiads etc. as they are not published like AMC scores.

Yikes, if this doesn't make them go back then I don't know what will.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Maybe the kids good in Math are not good in all areas identified by the Holistic Approach.

It's not that. Assume we're looking just at the pool of candidates from affluent AAP centers like Carson or Longfellow. The new system says that a kid who got As in M7H and half of Algebra I honors with no notable math achievements and a fairly pedestrian math aptitude is equal to a kid who is an AIME qualifier and Mathcounts champ taking Algebra II honors or Pre-Calc honors with As throughout.

With no other factors involved, both kids are equally likely to be picked. If the first kid can check the box for any experience factors, or if the second kid got an A- in a non STEM class, or if the second kid is a bit shyer/less boastful on the essays, the first kid would be ranked higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Maybe the kids good in Math are not good in all areas identified by the Holistic Approach.

It's not that. Assume we're looking just at the pool of candidates from affluent AAP centers like Carson or Longfellow. The new system says that a kid who got As in M7H and half of Algebra I honors with no notable math achievements and a fairly pedestrian math aptitude is equal to a kid who is an AIME qualifier and Mathcounts champ taking Algebra II honors or Pre-Calc honors with As throughout.

With no other factors involved, both kids are equally likely to be picked. If the first kid can check the box for any experience factors, or if the second kid got an A- in a non STEM class, or if the second kid is a bit shyer/less boastful on the essays, the first kid would be ranked higher.

Absolutely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
It's not that. Assume we're looking just at the pool of candidates from affluent AAP centers like Carson or Longfellow. The new system says that a kid who got As in M7H and half of Algebra I honors with no notable math achievements and a fairly pedestrian math aptitude is equal to a kid who is an AIME qualifier and Mathcounts champ taking Algebra II honors or Pre-Calc honors with As throughout.

With no other factors involved, both kids are equally likely to be picked. If the first kid can check the box for any experience factors, or if the second kid got an A- in a non STEM class, or if the second kid is a bit shyer/less boastful on the essays, the first kid would be ranked higher.

quoted PP here again. I'm not at all arguing against the 1.5% rule and allocations to the higher poverty schools. The problem is that within the 1.5% allocated to say Carson, Rocky Run, or Longfellow, they can't differentiate between the gifted outliers and the overly prepped or tutored slightly above average kids. All of them will have 4.0s or near 4.0s. The prepped kids will have been taught how to write a strong essay. It is a travesty that kids who are math outliers, like the kids getting DHR on AMC10, didn't get one of the Carson/Longfellow/Rocky Run/at large seats. The new system isn't designed to detect outliers. It purely finds kids who are adequate.

[Anonymous]

Yup, the new admissions process does not reward high achievement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one cares about AMC scores. Students have been cheating on these tests.

Actually MIT asks applicants to list their AMC scores so people do care when it matters. (You should check your anti-asian racism at the door of your kid's school.)

Because colleges like to see extracurriculars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yup, the new admissions process does not reward high achievement.

And TJ’s rank as the number 1 HS in the USA is likely coming to an end, thanks to the ideologically-radical, social justice school board (who happen to racist against Asians).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just some quick stats from publicly available data from the AMC 10 results of "9th" graders from last year (class of 2024) and this year (class of 2025 - Holistic review process) of TJHSST and local NOVA schools

Honors roll of TJHSST reduced from 85% to 60 %
Honors roll of Other schools increased from 15 to 40%

Distinguished honor roll for TJHSST reduced from 100% to 0%
Distinguished honor roll for Other schools increased from 0 to 100%

Maybe the kids good in Math are not good in all areas identified by the Holistic Approach.

It may be difficult to find public data for Science Olympiads etc. as they are not published like AMC scores.

Colleges are businesses and will do whatever is in their best interests. They are moving away from test scores because they have realized that standardized exams are a great way to admit great test-takers, but not a great way to admit world-changers and students who seek to have a positive impact on the total environment.

TJ has done the same thing. One of the realities of TJ over the last dozen years is that fewer and fewer students were interested in the product for a variety of reasons. The admissions process changes resulted in a huge spike in applications, especially from underrepresented groups. 20% increase overall and 70% increase among Black and Hispanic students.

Citing the exam scores of the Class of 2025 may make you feel good in some pointless way, but they're not anything that anyone should care about in the slightest when we're talking about improving the overall academic environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. A lot are Langley. That part of the county is where the brilliant kids are being missed for TJ admission by the fairly random new process.

You misspelled "affluent"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just some quick stats from publicly available data from the AMC 10 results of "9th" graders from last year (class of 2024) and this year (class of 2025 - Holistic review process) of TJHSST and local NOVA schools

Honors roll of TJHSST reduced from 85% to 60 %
Honors roll of Other schools increased from 15 to 40%

Distinguished honor roll for TJHSST reduced from 100% to 0%
Distinguished honor roll for Other schools increased from 0 to 100%

Maybe the kids good in Math are not good in all areas identified by the Holistic Approach.

It may be difficult to find public data for Science Olympiads etc. as they are not published like AMC scores.

Colleges are businesses and will do whatever is in their best interests. They are moving away from test scores because they have realized that standardized exams are a great way to admit great test-takers, but not a great way to admit world-changers and students who seek to have a positive impact on the total environment.

TJ has done the same thing. One of the realities of TJ over the last dozen years is that fewer and fewer students were interested in the product for a variety of reasons. The admissions process changes resulted in a huge spike in applications, especially from underrepresented groups. 20% increase overall and 70% increase among Black and Hispanic students.

Citing the exam scores of the Class of 2025 may make you feel good in some pointless way, but they're not anything that anyone should care about in the slightest when we're talking about improving the overall academic environment.

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Maybe the kids good in Math are not good in all areas identified by the Holistic Approach.

It's not that. Assume we're looking just at the pool of candidates from affluent AAP centers like Carson or Longfellow. The new system says that a kid who got As in M7H and half of Algebra I honors with no notable math achievements and a fairly pedestrian math aptitude is equal to a kid who is an AIME qualifier and Mathcounts champ taking Algebra II honors or Pre-Calc honors with As throughout.

With no other factors involved, both kids are equally likely to be picked. If the first kid can check the box for any experience factors, or if the second kid got an A- in a non STEM class, or if the second kid is a bit shyer/less boastful on the essays, the first kid would be ranked higher.

Two problems with this line of logic:

1) There's nothing stopping a student from mentioning their success in math competitions in their Student Portrait Sheet if they are able to weave it organically into a response to a question.
2) I still fail to see why people are so obsessed with math advancement as an all-important factor in TJ admissions. It just doesn't matter that much. Yes, TJ has exceptionally advanced math classes, and they will continue to down the road. But there are plenty of other ways to be hugely successful at TJ in both STEM and non-STEM areas besides being super-advanced in math.