ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Trump, Vance, Noem all know that if this is truly investigated, they would be utterly screwed. Just like they know that if the files are released they would be screwed.

+1 The Republicans in the House have already seen the bodycam footage and voted not to release it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who are comfortable antagonizing poorly trained, jacked up people with guns. It shouldn’t be this way but we’ve seen enough of police shooting people for me to wonder at the lack of self preservation.

If you’re gonna protest. Think about what you are doing. How you are doing it and what the possible outcomes might be. I know people will say it’s victim blaming but the only thing we can control is what we do.


So, your solution is to sit back and let moron thugs with guns run the country?

Maybe the forefathers should have got on their knees for the British and their guns.


No I’m saying act with purpose and forethought. Maybe get some protest training. Don’t waste your one valuable life. If you want to be simple cannon fodder go ahead.


+1 million


DP and I agree with this. My dad pointed out to me many years ago that Abbie Hoffman rarely got arrested, he knew when to dip.

I posted a thread today regarding what we can do, and the suggestions so far are embarking on no spending and of course running and/or supporting young viable candidates. I like these ideas and am racking my brain for additional constructive suggestions.


I think people are more interested in yelling at each other than learning and creating an effective protest strategy. They think the whole civil rights movement just kinda happened as opposed to being strategic and planned. Yelling at people online accomplishes nothing.
Anonymous
Clarification on what the medias reporting her:

In the Minnesota Star Tribune, the mother (Donna Ganger) is quoted saying her daughter was “not part of anything like that at all” (referring to anti-ICE protests.


But then, other reports say that Good’s partner was on the sidewalk at the time, to make a cell video of Good driving her Honda Pilot.

Which is true?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The administration is really staging a smear campaign on this woman. Unbelievable!


It’s so cruel. I believed Adam Serwer 8 years ago (“the cruelty is the point”) but it still stuns me that real people get off on this kind of tone. It’s just pathetic.

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We need to seize this moment and keep the truthful narrative. We CANNOT let this regime continue to gaslight us. This murder is part of a much bigger picture of what is going on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Clarification on what the medias reporting her:

In the Minnesota Star Tribune, the mother (Donna Ganger) is quoted saying her daughter was “not part of anything like that at all” (referring to anti-ICE protests.


But then, other reports say that Good’s partner was on the sidewalk at the time, to make a cell video of Good driving her Honda Pilot.

Which is true?


There was commotion on the street. Stuff was already happening. Why would she not film these thugs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who are comfortable antagonizing poorly trained, jacked up people with guns. It shouldn’t be this way but we’ve seen enough of police shooting people for me to wonder at the lack of self preservation.

If you’re gonna protest. Think about what you are doing. How you are doing it and what the possible outcomes might be. I know people will say it’s victim blaming but the only thing we can control is what we do.


This is true. Injecting yourself in tense environments with unprofessional people carrying guns is definitely stupid.

Don't confuse the poorly trained ICE idiot with police officers. 99% of city and state police officers would never have discharged their weapon in this circumstance.


+1


A police officer wouldnt have unholstered their gun nor stood in front of a running car. Its called situational awareness.


In the BBC video, you can see he did not “unholster” until after she began driving.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The administration is really staging a smear campaign on this woman. Unbelievable!


It’s so cruel. I believed Adam Serwer 8 years ago (“the cruelty is the point”) but it still stuns me that real people get off on this kind of tone. It’s just pathetic.


It’s also counterproductive. I’m not sure who they think they’re winning over with this approach.


About 30 percent of the US population are ride or die with Trump and Vance. These people are completely unreachable. Murdering young blond American moms is completely fine with them, so it's not even a racial issue. It's a cult of personality. Republicans are kool-aid people. There is no reasoning with Republicans anymore. They are all about the cruelty today. That is the point of the Republican Party today. Dangerous times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Clarification on what the medias reporting her:

In the Minnesota Star Tribune, the mother (Donna Ganger) is quoted saying her daughter was “not part of anything like that at all” (referring to anti-ICE protests.


But then, other reports say that Good’s partner was on the sidewalk at the time, to make a cell video of Good driving her Honda Pilot.

Which is true?


There was commotion on the street. Stuff was already happening. Why would she not film these thugs?


But the mother said Good “ was “not part of anything like that at all” (referring to anti-ICE protests.”

Why was the wife on the sidewalk?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who are comfortable antagonizing poorly trained, jacked up people with guns. It shouldn’t be this way but we’ve seen enough of police shooting people for me to wonder at the lack of self preservation.

If you’re gonna protest. Think about what you are doing. How you are doing it and what the possible outcomes might be. I know people will say it’s victim blaming but the only thing we can control is what we do.


This is true. Injecting yourself in tense environments with unprofessional people carrying guns is definitely stupid.

Don't confuse the poorly trained ICE idiot with police officers. 99% of city and state police officers would never have discharged their weapon in this circumstance.


+1


A police officer wouldnt have unholstered their gun nor stood in front of a running car. Its called situational awareness.


In the BBC video, you can see he did not “unholster” until after she began driving.


He moved toward the vehicle to murder her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The administration is really staging a smear campaign on this woman. Unbelievable!


It’s so cruel. I believed Adam Serwer 8 years ago (“the cruelty is the point”) but it still stuns me that real people get off on this kind of tone. It’s just pathetic.


It’s also counterproductive. I’m not sure who they think they’re winning over with this approach.

low information voters. I'm NOT saying stupid. I'm saying people who get thier news through friends or in passing WHICH IS A LOT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BUSY. Busy working 2, 3 jobs because Trump has done NOTHING to lower costs.

But yeh, that is the audience. Just like the retelling of Jan. 6th.
Anonymous
ICE kills innocent people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Clarification on what the medias reporting her:

In the Minnesota Star Tribune, the mother (Donna Ganger) is quoted saying her daughter was “not part of anything like that at all” (referring to anti-ICE protests.


But then, other reports say that Good’s partner was on the sidewalk at the time, to make a cell video of Good driving her Honda Pilot.

Which is true?


There was commotion on the street. Stuff was already happening. Why would she not film these thugs?


But the mother said Good “ was “not part of anything like that at all” (referring to anti-ICE protests.”

Why was the wife on the sidewalk?


Are people supposed to hide at the sight of ICE?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The administration is really staging a smear campaign on this woman. Unbelievable!


It’s so cruel. I believed Adam Serwer 8 years ago (“the cruelty is the point”) but it still stuns me that real people get off on this kind of tone. It’s just pathetic.


It’s also counterproductive. I’m not sure who they think they’re winning over with this approach.


About 30 percent of the US population are ride or die with Trump and Vance. These people are completely unreachable. Murdering young blond American moms is completely fine with them, so it's not even a racial issue. It's a cult of personality. Republicans are kool-aid people. There is no reasoning with Republicans anymore. They are all about the cruelty today. That is the point of the Republican Party today. Dangerous times.


They already have these voters. Well, maybe Vance doesn't, and this was a play to get some of them. But he had a chance to moderate and be the voice of reason. He chose not to.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who are comfortable antagonizing poorly trained, jacked up people with guns. It shouldn’t be this way but we’ve seen enough of police shooting people for me to wonder at the lack of self preservation.

If you’re gonna protest. Think about what you are doing. How you are doing it and what the possible outcomes might be. I know people will say it’s victim blaming but the only thing we can control is what we do.


So, your solution is to sit back and let moron thugs with guns run the country?

Maybe the forefathers should have got on their knees for the British and their guns.


No I’m saying act with purpose and forethought. Maybe get some protest training. Don’t waste your one valuable life. If you want to be simple cannon fodder go ahead.


And if I get shot just going home?

What then if ICE pulls the trigger.

There is no accountability


Just don't² block traffic intentionally.


So parking illegally is now a capital offense?


Blocking traffic...



Omg then why doesn’t ICE shoot Uber drivers in DC? They block traffic all the time. Yes we could in theory go around but hey just shoot them!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The administration is really staging a smear campaign on this woman. Unbelievable!


It’s so cruel. I believed Adam Serwer 8 years ago (“the cruelty is the point”) but it still stuns me that real people get off on this kind of tone. It’s just pathetic.


It’s also counterproductive. I’m not sure who they think they’re winning over with this approach.

low information voters. I'm NOT saying stupid. I'm saying people who get thier news through friends or in passing WHICH IS A LOT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BUSY. Busy working 2, 3 jobs because Trump has done NOTHING to lower costs.

But yeh, that is the audience. Just like the retelling of Jan. 6th.


+1 its for people who just read the headlines and not the articles.
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