APS Closing Nottingham

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Anonymous wrote:Unless Nottingham parents were around ten years ago (when other Nottingham parents went nuclear about having more planning units assigned to Nottingham) they have no idea what people are talking about with that redistricting. I suggest to them that they take a history lesson because that redistricting is partly the reason Nottingham is underenrolled today. Many people from surrounding neighborhood schools have a horrible taste in their mouths from it. It was peak entitlement behavior.

Has APS thought out this plan in a careful and reasoned way? I doubt it. But there are no other realistic options if APS needs swing space. Nottingham needs to get at whether APS needs the swing space or whether it is some would be nice to have idea. Then they need to put their energy in making a good school environment in the three years before it is converted to that space. Or getting their kids into private schools.

Many people? Or just you? You’re holding this weird grudge from 10 years ago and you post about it a lot. It’s not healthy for you and no one else cares.

DP. Yes, many people. Most APS parents have had kids in APS for several years.

"many people." Several years does not equal 10 years. I hope you can find a better hobby.

Being an engaged parent is a hobby?

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Anonymous wrote:The Nottingham “community’s concerns” are and historically have in the past been those of a bunch of over privileged richer parents who dig in whenever anything slightly bad is sent their way. Just deal, please, like other school communities have done. Your kids will be fine at Discovery and other nearby schools, and I for one (anndbo suspect many others here) are tired of listening to you whine. Being upset about your kids going to Discovery is really the most ridiculous champagne problem on this board right now.

3 people killed right outside Nottingham isn't my definition of slightly bad, but ok.

Get a couple of crossing guards? Seems like an easy fix?

I mean, people in this neighborhood have been advocating vigorously for ten years now, but sure, there's probably an easy fix that everyone just ignored.

Wouldn’t shock me.

Ok Einstein what’s the brilliant plan everyone else missed?

Crossing guards?
Speed bumps?
Traffic cameras?

(All of which would be cheaper than repurposing another building into a functioning ES.)

You’re telling me there’s NOTHING that can be done to improve pedestrian safety over there?

Sure, perhaps they would. But nobody knows because APS hasn't done the work or requested a traffic study to show how they plan to keep students, teachers and the neighborhood safe.

It would be a waste of time and money to do an extensive traffic study on every potential site. It's quite reasonable to narrow down your options and focus on one site based on other factors. Because, as noted, those traffic efforts are (1) going to be needed at any location and (2) aren't going to be a cost-detterent at any location. (Except, apparently, Kenmore - based on the County's decade-long unwillingness to even work on that)

[Anonymous]

The parents who witnessed the Nottingham actions during the boundary moves for the McK expansion have kids entering 7-11th, maybe even younger for siblings. They aren't gone.

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Anonymous wrote:The Nottingham “community’s concerns” are and historically have in the past been those of a bunch of over privileged richer parents who dig in whenever anything slightly bad is sent their way. Just deal, please, like other school communities have done. Your kids will be fine at Discovery and other nearby schools, and I for one (anndbo suspect many others here) are tired of listening to you whine. Being upset about your kids going to Discovery is really the most ridiculous champagne problem on this board right now.

3 people killed right outside Nottingham isn't my definition of slightly bad, but ok.

Get a couple of crossing guards? Seems like an easy fix?

I mean, people in this neighborhood have been advocating vigorously for ten years now, but sure, there's probably an easy fix that everyone just ignored.

Wouldn’t shock me.

Ok Einstein what’s the brilliant plan everyone else missed?

Crossing guards?
Speed bumps?
Traffic cameras?

(All of which would be cheaper than repurposing another building into a functioning ES.)

You’re telling me there’s NOTHING that can be done to improve pedestrian safety over there?

Sure, perhaps they would. But nobody knows because APS hasn't done the work or requested a traffic study to show how they plan to keep students, teachers and the neighborhood safe.

It would be a waste of time and money to do an extensive traffic study on every potential site. It's quite reasonable to narrow down your options and focus on one site based on other factors. Because, as noted, those traffic efforts are (1) going to be needed at any location and (2) aren't going to be a cost-detterent at any location. (Except, apparently, Kenmore - based on the County's decade-long unwillingness to even work on that)

Nobody is asking for every site. They've narrowed it down to one site - Nottingham - so a traffic warranty should now be warranted.

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Anonymous wrote:The Nottingham “community’s concerns” are and historically have in the past been those of a bunch of over privileged richer parents who dig in whenever anything slightly bad is sent their way. Just deal, please, like other school communities have done. Your kids will be fine at Discovery and other nearby schools, and I for one (anndbo suspect many others here) are tired of listening to you whine. Being upset about your kids going to Discovery is really the most ridiculous champagne problem on this board right now.

3 people killed right outside Nottingham isn't my definition of slightly bad, but ok.

Get a couple of crossing guards? Seems like an easy fix?

I mean, people in this neighborhood have been advocating vigorously for ten years now, but sure, there's probably an easy fix that everyone just ignored.

Wouldn’t shock me.

Ok Einstein what’s the brilliant plan everyone else missed?

Crossing guards?
Speed bumps?
Traffic cameras?

(All of which would be cheaper than repurposing another building into a functioning ES.)

You’re telling me there’s NOTHING that can be done to improve pedestrian safety over there?

Sure, perhaps they would. But nobody knows because APS hasn't done the work or requested a traffic study to show how they plan to keep students, teachers and the neighborhood safe.

It would be a waste of time and money to do an extensive traffic study on every potential site. It's quite reasonable to narrow down your options and focus on one site based on other factors. Because, as noted, those traffic efforts are (1) going to be needed at any location and (2) aren't going to be a cost-detterent at any location. (Except, apparently, Kenmore - based on the County's decade-long unwillingness to even work on that)

Nobody is asking for every site. They've narrowed it down to one site - Nottingham - so a traffic warranty should now be warranted.

Traffic study should now be warranted....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Nottingham “community’s concerns” are and historically have in the past been those of a bunch of over privileged richer parents who dig in whenever anything slightly bad is sent their way. Just deal, please, like other school communities have done. Your kids will be fine at Discovery and other nearby schools, and I for one (anndbo suspect many others here) are tired of listening to you whine. Being upset about your kids going to Discovery is really the most ridiculous champagne problem on this board right now.

3 people killed right outside Nottingham isn't my definition of slightly bad, but ok.

Get a couple of crossing guards? Seems like an easy fix?

I mean, people in this neighborhood have been advocating vigorously for ten years now, but sure, there's probably an easy fix that everyone just ignored.

Wouldn’t shock me.

Ok Einstein what’s the brilliant plan everyone else missed?

Crossing guards?
Speed bumps?
Traffic cameras?

(All of which would be cheaper than repurposing another building into a functioning ES.)

You’re telling me there’s NOTHING that can be done to improve pedestrian safety over there?

You really think you're the first person to think of these things? Go knock yourself out trying to get the county to put them in. Then report back. I'll wait.

PS - the fact that you're suggesting speed bumps on a major road shows me how ignorant you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The parents who witnessed the Nottingham actions during the boundary moves for the McK expansion have kids entering 7-11th, maybe even younger for siblings. They aren't gone.

The McKrazies are accusing the Notties of not being "welcoming" when they are the ones complaining 10 years later about receiving kids from Tuck to fill up their newly expanded school. Who's being unwelcoming?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless Nottingham parents were around ten years ago (when other Nottingham parents went nuclear about having more planning units assigned to Nottingham) they have no idea what people are talking about with that redistricting. I suggest to them that they take a history lesson because that redistricting is partly the reason Nottingham is underenrolled today. Many people from surrounding neighborhood schools have a horrible taste in their mouths from it. It was peak entitlement behavior.

Has APS thought out this plan in a careful and reasoned way? I doubt it. But there are no other realistic options if APS needs swing space. Nottingham needs to get at whether APS needs the swing space or whether it is some would be nice to have idea. Then they need to put their energy in making a good school environment in the three years before it is converted to that space. Or getting their kids into private schools.

Many people? Or just you? You’re holding this weird grudge from 10 years ago and you post about it a lot. It’s not healthy for you and no one else cares.

DP. Yes, many people. Most APS parents have had kids in APS for several years.

Please get yourself some therapy.

So unnecessarily nasty. Most kids are in APS for 13 years. I assume you can do the math.

Many of us have been through many different changes over the years. The nasty parents really tend to stick out.

PP here, I wasn't trying to be nasty. This sounds like it's really eating away at you. Carrying a grudge for that long and posting about it repeatedly on anon message boards cannot be healthy for you. Time to let it go. Therapy could help you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to understand that using trailers short-term (less than 10 years) is an acceptable option in order to get some of these older buildings renovated.

I don't agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just for clarity, the Nottingham parents who went to elected officials in an attempt to "influence" APS still have kids in the system. It wasn't 10 years ago. The boundary changes were 7 years ago. Kids going into 2nd are just now entering high school. Also, when the McK-Cardinal move happened, another group from Nottingham targeted Tuckahoe when the "No, not us. Them!" arguments began. I think the point is parent groups tend to turn on each other. It's not surprising that others aren't supporting Nottingham's efforts this time.

Why do you think you were so innocent over at McKinley? You lobbied for your school not to be overcrowded. Notties did the same for their school. So why are the Notties the bad guys when you did the EXACT SAME THING?

[Anonymous]

Nottingham wouldn’t have been overcrowded. That was the whole point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unless Nottingham parents were around ten years ago (when other Nottingham parents went nuclear about having more planning units assigned to Nottingham) they have no idea what people are talking about with that redistricting. I suggest to them that they take a history lesson because that redistricting is partly the reason Nottingham is underenrolled today. Many people from surrounding neighborhood schools have a horrible taste in their mouths from it. It was peak entitlement behavior.

Has APS thought out this plan in a careful and reasoned way? I doubt it. But there are no other realistic options if APS needs swing space. Nottingham needs to get at whether APS needs the swing space or whether it is some would be nice to have idea. Then they need to put their energy in making a good school environment in the three years before it is converted to that space. Or getting their kids into private schools.

Many people? Or just you? You’re holding this weird grudge from 10 years ago and you post about it a lot. It’s not healthy for you and no one else cares.

DP. Yes, many people. Most APS parents have had kids in APS for several years.

Please get yourself some therapy.

So unnecessarily nasty. Most kids are in APS for 13 years. I assume you can do the math.

Many of us have been through many different changes over the years. The nasty parents really tend to stick out.

PP here, I wasn't trying to be nasty. This sounds like it's really eating away at you. Carrying a grudge for that long and posting about it repeatedly on anon message boards cannot be healthy for you. Time to let it go. Therapy could help you.

Of course you are trying to be nasty. I’m clearly not the PP and I don’t have a grudge. Just sharing my observations from a different community that saw the whole thing go down. We all saw the ugly behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Nottingham “community’s concerns” are and historically have in the past been those of a bunch of over privileged richer parents who dig in whenever anything slightly bad is sent their way. Just deal, please, like other school communities have done. Your kids will be fine at Discovery and other nearby schools, and I for one (anndbo suspect many others here) are tired of listening to you whine. Being upset about your kids going to Discovery is really the most ridiculous champagne problem on this board right now.

3 people killed right outside Nottingham isn't my definition of slightly bad, but ok.

Get a couple of crossing guards? Seems like an easy fix?

I mean, people in this neighborhood have been advocating vigorously for ten years now, but sure, there's probably an easy fix that everyone just ignored.

Wouldn’t shock me.

Ok Einstein what’s the brilliant plan everyone else missed?

Crossing guards?
Speed bumps?
Traffic cameras?

(All of which would be cheaper than repurposing another building into a functioning ES.)

You’re telling me there’s NOTHING that can be done to improve pedestrian safety over there?

Sure, perhaps they would. But nobody knows because APS hasn't done the work or requested a traffic study to show how they plan to keep students, teachers and the neighborhood safe.

Maybe you could advocate for that then, rather than folding your arms across your chest and shaking your head “no” like a petulant child.

In the meantime, look both ways.

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Anonymous wrote:The Nottingham “community’s concerns” are and historically have in the past been those of a bunch of over privileged richer parents who dig in whenever anything slightly bad is sent their way. Just deal, please, like other school communities have done. Your kids will be fine at Discovery and other nearby schools, and I for one (anndbo suspect many others here) are tired of listening to you whine. Being upset about your kids going to Discovery is really the most ridiculous champagne problem on this board right now.

3 people killed right outside Nottingham isn't my definition of slightly bad, but ok.

Get a couple of crossing guards? Seems like an easy fix?

I mean, people in this neighborhood have been advocating vigorously for ten years now, but sure, there's probably an easy fix that everyone just ignored.

Wouldn’t shock me.

Ok Einstein what’s the brilliant plan everyone else missed?

Crossing guards?
Speed bumps?
Traffic cameras?

(All of which would be cheaper than repurposing another building into a functioning ES.)

You’re telling me there’s NOTHING that can be done to improve pedestrian safety over there?

You really think you're the first person to think of these things? Go knock yourself out trying to get the county to put them in. Then report back. I'll wait.

PS - the fact that you're suggesting speed bumps on a major road shows me how ignorant you are.

Speed bumps in a school zone? Not crazy at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Nottingham “community’s concerns” are and historically have in the past been those of a bunch of over privileged richer parents who dig in whenever anything slightly bad is sent their way. Just deal, please, like other school communities have done. Your kids will be fine at Discovery and other nearby schools, and I for one (anndbo suspect many others here) are tired of listening to you whine. Being upset about your kids going to Discovery is really the most ridiculous champagne problem on this board right now.

3 people killed right outside Nottingham isn't my definition of slightly bad, but ok.

Get a couple of crossing guards? Seems like an easy fix?

I mean, people in this neighborhood have been advocating vigorously for ten years now, but sure, there's probably an easy fix that everyone just ignored.

Wouldn’t shock me.

Ok Einstein what’s the brilliant plan everyone else missed?

Crossing guards?
Speed bumps?
Traffic cameras?

(All of which would be cheaper than repurposing another building into a functioning ES.)

You’re telling me there’s NOTHING that can be done to improve pedestrian safety over there?

You really think you're the first person to think of these things? Go knock yourself out trying to get the county to put them in. Then report back. I'll wait.

PS - the fact that you're suggesting speed bumps on a major road shows me how ignorant you are.

You sound insane. You know that right?