FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

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What was on Option E?

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Anonymous wrote:If they had done this properly and stuck to objective standards, this could have been settled months ago. And, with a lot less angst.

In the past, SB members were always non-committal to neighborhoods, while at least pretending to listen. I never recall an earlier superintendent making promises or even getting involved. Staff was involved, but we never saw the superintendents.

It was mostly SB members doing the wheeling and dealing, but they were careful not to make promises.

Reid promised Walney Oaks. Somehow, they were taken totally out of the equation. And, those final scenarios did not include most of Crossfield.

I don't see them changing it now, but the School Board could if they wanted to do so. I don't think they will.

Moving Crossfield to Skyview also would have kept some space at Franklin so they could actually implement the plan to get rid of MS AAP centers. Now any attempt to do that is just going to result in another mess of boundary changes. There was zero logic involved in the decision or planning for the future. It was all letting the loudest people from Fox Mill escape SLHS and the RIO people cling to Oakton.
I still wonder if Kyle McDaniel and Melanie Meren will join together at the last minute to strike some sort of deal with everyone else to swap Crossfield and Fox Mill. They both seem pretty adamant about putting Crossfield at Skyview and keeping Fox Mill out.

Why would they do this when it would piss off so many people?

Does a better job of balancing the enrollments at Oakton and South Lakes.

Gets rid of some of the longest commutes to a high school in FCPS.

Does not start to recreate the conditions that led a prior School Board to move kids into South Lakes in 2008.

Relieves overcrowding at Oakton at a time when substantial residential growth is expected closer to OHS.

Keeps families already mostly at an AP school at an AP school.

The path of least resistance is to move Fox Mill but objectively moving Crossfield to Skyview makes more sense. But we have a School Board and superintendent who regularly cater to the loudest voices with the most money.

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Anonymous wrote:What area does Seema live in? I'm curious.

A neighborhood of expensive custom built homes kind of on the edge of Centreville, almost in Yorkshire.

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Anonymous wrote:If they had done this properly and stuck to objective standards, this could have been settled months ago. And, with a lot less angst.

In the past, SB members were always non-committal to neighborhoods, while at least pretending to listen. I never recall an earlier superintendent making promises or even getting involved. Staff was involved, but we never saw the superintendents.

It was mostly SB members doing the wheeling and dealing, but they were careful not to make promises.

Reid promised Walney Oaks. Somehow, they were taken totally out of the equation. And, those final scenarios did not include most of Crossfield.

I don't see them changing it now, but the School Board could if they wanted to do so. I don't think they will.

I still wonder if Kyle McDaniel and Melanie Meren will join together at the last minute to strike some sort of deal with everyone else to swap Crossfield and Fox Mill. They both seem pretty adamant about putting Crossfield at Skyview and keeping Fox Mill out.

Why would they do this when it would piss off so many people?

Does a better job of balancing the enrollments at Oakton and South Lakes.

Gets rid of some of the longest commutes to a high school in FCPS.

Does not start to recreate the conditions that led a prior School Board to move kids into South Lakes in 2008.

Relieves overcrowding at Oakton at a time when substantial residential growth is expected closer to OHS.

Keeps families already mostly at an AP school at an AP school.

The path of least resistance is to move Fox Mill but objectively moving Crossfield to Skyview makes more sense. But we have a School Board and superintendent who regularly cater to the loudest voices with the most money.

Moving Crossfield to Skyview also would have kept some space at Franklin so they could actually implement the plan to get rid of MS AAP centers. Now any attempt to do that is just going to result in another mess of boundary changes. There was zero logic involved in the decision or planning for the future. It was all letting the loudest people from Fox Mill escape SLHS and the RIO people cling to Oakton.
I still wonder if Kyle McDaniel and Melanie Meren will join together at the last minute to strike some sort of deal with everyone else to swap Crossfield and Fox Mill. They both seem pretty adamant about putting Crossfield at Skyview and keeping Fox Mill out.

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They will NOT be able to get rid of the AAP center at Rocky Run.

There is no room for the AAP kids to go back to Stone. They are filling it completely full with moving kids from the rest of Cub Run, the Bull Run apartment building, and the Brookfield split.

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Anonymous wrote:What area does Seema live in? I'm curious.

A neighborhood of expensive custom built homes kind of on the edge of Centreville, almost in Yorkshire.

Of course.

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Anonymous wrote:What area does Seema live in? I'm curious.

A neighborhood of expensive custom built homes kind of on the edge of Centreville, almost in Yorkshire.

Of course.

https://samyak-inc.com/about-us/

Well she is a business owner..............

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Anonymous wrote:As far as South Lakes, I suspect that many of the "opt-ins" to Skyview were from Fox Mill. It will be interesting to see which base schools those kids are coming from. Has that been published? I bet there are some from other area schools that are not going to be "in boundary."

Does anyone know what the breakdown is?

Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS opted in. My kid reported kids from Hughes MS at the HS preview day for Skyview, so it wasn't just Fox Mill and Floris. I would guess that some where are 25 kids from FMES opted in this year. Keep in mond that FMES enrollment numbers are inflated by the JI program, so the kids going to SLHS from FMES is actually smaller then the enrollment at the school. It was probably roughly 50% of the 8th grade class from FMES opted in to Skyview. The Floris numbers at SLHS are pretty small as well. I am guessing the Hughes kids who opted in would be from Dogwood, maybe the kids who had been in the JI program at FMES.

I suspect that SLHS is also realizing that it is going to see an increase in the number of kids looking to pupil place to Skyview because it will be the closer AP school for lots of families. SLHS loses about 125 kids a year to Herndon for AP, that number might go up with an AP program at Skyview due to the difference in student bodies. Parents might be more comfortable pupil placing to a lower FARMs AP school then the higher FARMS AP school that had been the choice for most. And the SLHS community knows it. Some discussed it on Meren's FB posts.

According to the capacity dashboard only 13 kids transferred from South Lakes to Herndon this year (158 transferred from Herndon to South Lakes). When Skyview becomes an option for AP, the number of transfers out of South Lakes may increase substantially.

The SLHS map shows 157 SLHS students transferred out and 234 students transferred in.

158 Herndon to SLHS
35 Westfield to SLHS
15 from Oakton to SLHS
All the others are 1 student.

TJ got 31 students from SLHS
Langley got 28 Students from SLHS
Oakton got 11 students from SHLS
The Herndon Map shows 13 transfers in, I think I misread the numbers. My apologies 1 from SLHS.
Westfield got 1 student from SLHS
Chantilly got 1 student from SLHS
Centreville got 1 student from SLHS

The tracker also said that a 1 doesn't necessarily mean 1, just that there was movement from that school to the other school but under 10. So probably more then 1 to the 4 schools listed with a 1.

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Does anyone know they actually come up with the capacity number for each school. I'm looking at the capacity dashboard and seems like school's capacities are changing every year and this would be without any renovation/expansion occurring. So is the capacity number based on building size or is based off number of teacher's employed? Or is some mix of both?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know they actually come up with the capacity number for each school. I'm looking at the capacity dashboard and seems like school's capacities are changing every year and this would be without any renovation/expansion occurring. So is the capacity number based on building size or is based off number of teacher's employed? Or is some mix of both?

The numbers in the Capacity Dashboard are based on a school’s current “program capacity.” Do a Google search for “How is program capacity for schools determined in FCPS” and you’ll get a decent AI explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know they actually come up with the capacity number for each school. I'm looking at the capacity dashboard and seems like school's capacities are changing every year and this would be without any renovation/expansion occurring. So is the capacity number based on building size or is based off number of teacher's employed? Or is some mix of both?

The capacity being used is the current “program” capacity. So that’s at the current staffing levels. The program capacity can expand or contract based on need. For example, while Stone currently has a program capacity of 861, it recently had a capacity of 930, which was reduced when membership dropped off. It has a building capacity of 1104. Similarly, Franklin had a building capacity of 1215 but a program capacity of 844. So there is some margin for expanding program capacity and shifting staff around to support a larger Franklin and Stone.

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That's surprising because Franklin and Stone are very, very small buildings.

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Anonymous wrote:That's surprising because Franklin and Stone are very, very small buildings.

Seems like using the building capacity as opposed to program capacity would make more sense during rezoning since you can shuffle teachers a lot easier than you can expand buildings.

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Where do you see building capacity?

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Anonymous wrote:Where do you see building capacity?

The only accessible place I’ve found it is through digging the data out of the Capital Improvement Plan. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/Adopted-Capital-Improvement-Program-FY-2027-31.pdf