Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?


Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.


So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?


I’d say the way to prevent this tragedy from happening again is pay attention to all the experts who are telling you it’s too dangerous and you need to change things. But I’m no expert!


This. It's why we have safety regulations that the owner of this exploration sub company disliked and complained about.


Yes too much red tape and regulations.


Why must you stifle innovation, man.
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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?


Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.


So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

How many ships have sunk in a similar manner to the Titanic in the past 111 years?


zero - zilch
I think the "to be fair" poster is messing with you
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?


Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.


So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

How many ships have sunk in a similar manner to the Titanic in the past 111 years?


There were very wealthy people on the Titanic. It's really about treasure hunting.
Anonymous
Ocean Gate release: We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost, a statement from OceanGate says.
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Anonymous wrote:Ocean Gate release: We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost, a statement from OceanGate says.



Ha, they have been lost for five days. Great statement…
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Now that OG has released their statement, so hope Jeff imposes the 48 hour rule to stop the tastelessness of some posters about the deceased.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?


Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.


So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?


Those lessons were already learned. The only thing you can learn now is maybe the effect of the ocean on a decomposing ship. But even then everyone knows what the outcome will be.
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Anonymous wrote:They were looking all over the huge ocean but I bet that debris field is right next to the Titanic.


who is paying for the search?


Considering they are most likely dead, part of their achieved wealth should go towards trying to search for them. It’s only fair.
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Anonymous wrote:Ocean Gate release: We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost, a statement from OceanGate says.



Ha, they have been lost for five days. Great statement…


you forgot 'sadly'
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Now that OG has released their statement, so hope Jeff imposes the 48 hour rule to stop the tastelessness of some posters about the deceased.



They are “lost” not dead.
Anonymous
In full:

We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost.

These men were true explorers who shared a distinct spirit of adventure, and a deep passion for exploring and protecting the world’s oceans. Our hearts are with these five souls and every member of their families during this tragic time. We grieve the loss of life and joy they brought to everyone they knew.

This is an extremely sad time for our dedicated employees who are exhausted and grieving deeply over this loss. The entire OceanGate family is deeply grateful for the countless men and women from multiple organisations of the international community who expedited wide-ranging resources and have worked so very hard on this mission.

We appreciate their commitment to finding these five explorers, and their days and nights of tireless work in support of our crew and their families.

This is a very sad time for the entire explorer community, and for each of the family members of those lost at sea.

We respectfully ask that the privacy of these families be respected during this most painful time."
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?


Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.


So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

How many ships have sunk in a similar manner to the Titanic in the past 111 years?


There were very wealthy people on the Titanic. It's really about treasure hunting.


Yes, isn't there a safe onboard that they are trying to get to
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?


Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.


So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?


Those lessons were already learned. The only thing you can learn now is maybe the effect of the ocean on a decomposing ship. But even then everyone knows what the outcome will be.


Meh, until Titanic was found they didn't know for sure if it had broken in half or not. Everything wasn't already known.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ocean Gate release: We now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost, a statement from OceanGate says.


some of these headlines are poorly worded...

Company faced hurdles "executing" expeditions
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Anonymous wrote:Now the lawyers will get busy.


The signed airtight waivers before getting in that sub.


Any lawyer will tell you a waiver is not the be all and end all.


+1 https://www.insider.com/oceangate-likely-protected-from-titanic-sub-lawsuits-legal-expert-2023-6?amp

"That legal protection, however, only extends as far as OceanGate informed its passengers of the various risks they faced in boarding the submersible, according to (legal expert Miguel) Custodio."
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