Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?

Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.

So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

Lesson - when a sailor says "ICEBERG ahead" the captain should make attempts to avoid it - not ignore the sailor. This has been proven by many many accounts.

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Anonymous wrote:Now the lawyers will get busy.

The signed airtight waivers before getting in that sub.

but wouldn't reports of oceangate's negligence negate some of that? just curious (not a lawyer)

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Anonymous wrote:Now the lawyers will get busy.

The signed airtight waivers before getting in that sub.

Any lawyer will tell you a waiver is not the be all and end all.

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My gut reaction was that they died the minute they lost contact back on Sunday. But then I had hope. Now it looks like my gut reaction was correct. Rest in peace Explorers.

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Anonymous wrote:Now the lawyers will get busy.

The signed airtight waivers before getting in that sub.

I’m so sorry but 😂😂😂😂

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From CNN just now:

"Company confirms its vehicle found debris field in Titanic submersible search area
From CNN’s Paul P. Murphy

A spokesperson for Pelagic Research Services confirmed to CNN that its remote operated vehicle (ROV), which was the first to conduct a search for the missing OceanGate sub on the sea floor, found the debris field.

The US Coast Guard announced earlier today that a debris field had been found in the search area.

Pelagic Research Services describes itself on its website as “an ocean services company that brings expedition planning, execution and state of the art sub-sea research tools to the ocean community on a global basis."


From the front page of the Pelagic Research Services website that I just went to:

"PRS want to express our full gratitude for the incredible, coordinated rescue response of everyone involved in this search and rescue mission. Our focus right now is on the families of those on the Titan and for their tragic loss."

"Tragic loss" is an interesting choice of words. Probably unintentional (though confusing).

Agree that it’s very definitive language before anyone has held a press conference to say the words. It’s almost as if PRS announced publicly that they’re dead before the families were notified. We all *know* they’re dead but from a PR perspective, that language is not something I would’ve approved in a public facing statement at this hour, pre-Coast Guard press conf.

How do you know what the family has been told and when?

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Anonymous wrote:My gut reaction was that they died the minute they lost contact back on Sunday. But then I had hope. Now it looks like my gut reaction was correct. Rest in peace Explorers.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:The way some posters are reacting, it is a wonder two bicycle shop owners ever took their crazy contraption out to Kill Devil Hills in NC.

None of the people are stupid anymore than those who strive to go to space.

Just because you would never do it, doesn’t mean others shouldn’t!

I hope they rose to the surface and just haven’t been found yet.

These guys weren't inventors. They were tourists.

It's not even like Everest, where people have to train and be fit beyond imagining. These people just wrote a check.

False. They were Mission Specialists.

Without their participation, this scientific venture would not have moved forward.

People in this area claim to be in favor of Science, but when the rubber meets the road, it is all “hurr durr! They were privileged billionaires. Their fee for this trip would have been better spent on Teslas for the unhoused”

The airplane pilot, Pakistani businessman, and his son were tourists. The CEO and Titanic expert were scientists/experts/explorers or whatever.

Incorrect. They were Mission Specialists.

Right, and the kid at the Apple Store is a genius.

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They were looking all over the huge ocean but I bet that debris field is right next to the Titanic.

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Anonymous wrote:It's too bad they couldn't get the ROVs there sooner to find them alive and bring them up through bringing them up sounded risky as well since it would involve depressurization and if the thing wasn't already working properly, maybe they would not have survived the ascent.

Too bad the Ocean Gate company didn’t have their own to handle this situation. Tells me they need to fire their risk management analyst or they don’t have one.

There was never any "finding them alive." Come on. They've been dead for 4 days.

Yes, but PP was complaining that the French ROVs took too long. My point is that if this was a company that had a good risk management function, they would have had their own ROV. If it were my company, I would have had ROVs following the sub.

An ROV on site would have saved the whole “rescue” phase but only because, with a hull breach, there wouldn’t have been anyone to rescue. It would simply have made locating and salvaging the debris easier.

Yes, there would not have been lives saved. But the company couldn’t off load recovery costs to others. If they had an ROV following and filming, they would also have an idea of what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?

Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.

So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

I’d say the way to prevent this tragedy from happening again is pay attention to all the experts who are telling you it’s too dangerous and you need to change things. But I’m no expert!

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?

Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.

So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

How many ships have sunk in a similar manner to the Titanic in the past 111 years?

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?

Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.

So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

I’d say the way to prevent this tragedy from happening again is pay attention to all the experts who are telling you it’s too dangerous and you need to change things. But I’m no expert!

This. It's why we have safety regulations that the owner of this exploration sub company disliked and complained about.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, how will we ever know what caused the Titanic to sink if we don’t study the site of the wreckage?

Are you kidding? What caused it to sink is not obscure. It hit an iceberg and filled with water. This is not, um, rocket science.

So, you think there is nothing to be learned from a tragedy like that? No design flaws? Or engineering mistakes? To prevent it from happening again?

I’d say the way to prevent this tragedy from happening again is pay attention to all the experts who are telling you it’s too dangerous and you need to change things. But I’m no expert!

This. It's why we have safety regulations that the owner of this exploration sub company disliked and complained about.

Yes too much red tape and regulations.

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Anonymous wrote:They were looking all over the huge ocean but I bet that debris field is right next to the Titanic.

who is paying for the search?