Metro United

[Anonymous]

The outsider is kind of obsessed about MU though. Bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP is correct. Nothing has changed other than trimmed rosters. Same coaches, same training...

Just MU parents passing on the MU sales pitch. Not that any of them made other rosters anyway.

NP and MU parent. Agree that the main change is trimmed rosters (and a few new faces at the older age groups who seem be potential contributors). But disagree that none of them made any other rosters. Several had other offers across various age groups. Not all, but several (and as has been discussed ad nauseum here, several left to other DA/ECNL clubs.)

Main change is not just trimmed rosters. There has been a significant change to the individual and team training implementation & execution (and not just the locations).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP is correct. Nothing has changed other than trimmed rosters. Same coaches, same training...

Just MU parents passing on the MU sales pitch. Not that any of them made other rosters anyway.

NP and MU parent. Agree that the main change is trimmed rosters (and a few new faces at the older age groups who seem be potential contributors). But disagree that none of them made any other rosters. Several had other offers across various age groups. Not all, but several (and as has been discussed ad nauseum here, several left to other DA/ECNL clubs.)

Main change is not just trimmed rosters. There has been a significant change to the individual and team training implementation & execution (and not just the locations).

Should have said (IMO), "most significant change" -- but my point was really more about the offers not about the current training.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP is correct. Nothing has changed other than trimmed rosters. Same coaches, same training...

Just MU parents passing on the MU sales pitch. Not that any of them made other rosters anyway.

NP and MU parent. Agree that the main change is trimmed rosters (and a few new faces at the older age groups who seem be potential contributors). But disagree that none of them made any other rosters. Several had other offers across various age groups. Not all, but several (and as has been discussed ad nauseum here, several left to other DA/ECNL clubs.)

Main change is not just trimmed rosters. There has been a significant change to the individual and team training implementation & execution (and not just the locations).

Interesting how this assessment is being made without attending trainings. So MU parents have magical abilities to know the new training implementations and executions without being there? And these new coaches that have been to here for a month or less must be be doing some magic to have such obvious and quick results. This is a the MU sales pitch at its finest.

I truly wish every family the best experience.

Over and out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP is correct. Nothing has changed other than trimmed rosters. Same coaches, same training...

Just MU parents passing on the MU sales pitch. Not that any of them made other rosters anyway.

NP and MU parent. Agree that the main change is trimmed rosters (and a few new faces at the older age groups who seem be potential contributors). But disagree that none of them made any other rosters. Several had other offers across various age groups. Not all, but several (and as has been discussed ad nauseum here, several left to other DA/ECNL clubs.)

Main change is not just trimmed rosters. There has been a significant change to the individual and team training implementation & execution (and not just the locations).

Interesting how this assessment is being made without attending trainings. So MU parents have magical abilities to know the new training implementations and executions without being there? And these new coaches that have been to here for a month or less must be be doing some magic to have such obvious and quick results. This is a the MU sales pitch at its finest.

I truly wish every family the best experience.

Over and out.

You misunderstood one comment and are going to new bizarre lengths.

There are numerous MU parents who watch practices on lawn chairs or standing, every day. Of course, you would know this if your statements here had any credibility. Which, of course, the don't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP is correct. Nothing has changed other than trimmed rosters. Same coaches, same training...

Just MU parents passing on the MU sales pitch. Not that any of them made other rosters anyway.

NP and MU parent. Agree that the main change is trimmed rosters (and a few new faces at the older age groups who seem be potential contributors). But disagree that none of them made any other rosters. Several had other offers across various age groups. Not all, but several (and as has been discussed ad nauseum here, several left to other DA/ECNL clubs.)

Main change is not just trimmed rosters. There has been a significant change to the individual and team training implementation & execution (and not just the locations).

Interesting how this assessment is being made without attending trainings. So MU parents have magical abilities to know the new training implementations and executions without being there? And these new coaches that have been to here for a month or less must be be doing some magic to have such obvious and quick results. This is a the MU sales pitch at its finest.

I truly wish every family the best experience.

Over and out.

Thanks for letting us know Mr. Outsider. We will listen in for your wisdom from now on for how things are going inside MU training sessions. Hopeful that this is the last goodbye.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP is correct. Nothing has changed other than trimmed rosters. Same coaches, same training...

Just MU parents passing on the MU sales pitch. Not that any of them made other rosters anyway.

NP and MU parent. Agree that the main change is trimmed rosters (and a few new faces at the older age groups who seem be potential contributors). But disagree that none of them made any other rosters. Several had other offers across various age groups. Not all, but several (and as has been discussed ad nauseum here, several left to other DA/ECNL clubs.)

Main change is not just trimmed rosters. There has been a significant change to the individual and team training implementation & execution (and not just the locations).

Interesting how this assessment is being made without attending trainings. So MU parents have magical abilities to know the new training implementations and executions without being there? And these new coaches that have been to here for a month or less must be be doing some magic to have such obvious and quick results. This is a the MU sales pitch at its finest.

I truly wish every family the best experience.

Over and out.

Although I attend to watch as much training as available in my schedule, a former Spirit parent and now MU would not need to attend the training to make that statement. It is clear from the identification of the training that significant differences are being pursued. The only thing you would not have insight into, if you were not attending, would be the intensity and in training feedback to players and teams.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way someone not part of MU has watched more than a handful of practices and games. Shoot my DD plays for the club and I cannot make that claim. So the opinion is based on how Spirit ran things.

If you are trying to assess the quality of the training and the environment ESPECIALLY at a club like MU that, at best, has soccer development as it's claimed primary focus, how can you not be watching the practices and games to make that assessment?

That is a serious question. You have a DD in the club and you don't know FIRSTHAND the quality of the training or watch the games to see HOW the team is playing (not the results)? And then you have an opinion as to how they are developing as players? Seriously?

It would be more honest for you to say, I have no firsthand idea how much development these girls are getting RELATIVE to the other options out there but my DD likes it so we are staying. That would be honest. How a club is run is a factor but at the elite level the quality of the training and the pace and quality of the development is much more important.

DP. I think what he is saying is that MU as a club hasn't existed long enough for you to have watched anything more than 1 game. Pre-season games had a lot of missing players and isn't reflective of the team's. They've only been in season since August, if you count pre-season. Which also had some missing players in some age groups if they were still going to ID camps.

So it's just mathematically impossible.

Different in the fact that they added a trainer who ruined a club in the NE.
Mmmmm ok. MU isn’t just rebranded WSVA? Everything is better because of the entity structure?

Just stop it.

And there it is. Proof that it is about last year. That proves you do not know what you are talking about.

Lol. From the guy that thinks changing the name and one month of training changes everything. Ok.

Have a good one man. Hope it’s a great season for all your kids in whatever sports they all play. Bit of advice: always stay truly informed and don’t drink anyone’s kool aid because in 6 months things can change drastically. Cheerleading for a club equals poor decisions. Do what’s best for your child but be honest and always be open to frequent reassessment.

Not sure how I was cheerleading or drinking kool aid but okay. Your posts were misleading so I had to call them out. A lot has changed in the club's approach. It remains to be seen how it turns out but I am encouraged for my DD so far. If that's cheerleading then guess I will bear that burden. Bye bye.

Misleading? Sorry you feel that way. I find it hard to believe people without an agenda here would really think MU and WSVA are not one in the same after only one month of training and a name change in terms of this topic.

[Anonymous]

Thank you FCV parent. I mean TSJFCV.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no way someone not part of MU has watched more than a handful of practices and games. Shoot my DD plays for the club and I cannot make that claim. So the opinion is based on how Spirit ran things.

If you are trying to assess the quality of the training and the environment ESPECIALLY at a club like MU that, at best, has soccer development as it's claimed primary focus, how can you not be watching the practices and games to make that assessment?

That is a serious question. You have a DD in the club and you don't know FIRSTHAND the quality of the training or watch the games to see HOW the team is playing (not the results)? And then you have an opinion as to how they are developing as players? Seriously?

It would be more honest for you to say, I have no firsthand idea how much development these girls are getting RELATIVE to the other options out there but my DD likes it so we are staying. That would be honest. How a club is run is a factor but at the elite level the quality of the training and the pace and quality of the development is much more important.

DP. I think what he is saying is that MU as a club hasn't existed long enough for you to have watched anything more than 1 game. Pre-season games had a lot of missing players and isn't reflective of the team's. They've only been in season since August, if you count pre-season. Which also had some missing players in some age groups if they were still going to ID camps.

So it's just mathematically impossible.

Mmmmm ok. MU isn’t just rebranded WSVA? Everything is better because of the entity structure?

Just stop it.

And there it is. Proof that it is about last year. That proves you do not know what you are talking about.

Lol. From the guy that thinks changing the name and one month of training changes everything. Ok.

Have a good one man. Hope it’s a great season for all your kids in whatever sports they all play. Bit of advice: always stay truly informed and don’t drink anyone’s kool aid because in 6 months things can change drastically. Cheerleading for a club equals poor decisions. Do what’s best for your child but be honest and always be open to frequent reassessment.

Not sure how I was cheerleading or drinking kool aid but okay. Your posts were misleading so I had to call them out. A lot has changed in the club's approach. It remains to be seen how it turns out but I am encouraged for my DD so far. If that's cheerleading then guess I will bear that burden. Bye bye.

Misleading? Sorry you feel that way. I find it hard to believe people without an agenda here would really think MU and WSVA are not one in the same after only one month of training and a name change in terms of this topic.

How is it different? Smaller rosters is a change from different ownership. And Tom is no longer in charge, so the day to day leadership is different. If you don't think a leadership change makes a difference, look at all the club's (professional and otherwise) that changed leadership. Have you ever had ownership changes at work? What about manager changes? Changes in decision makers always have an impact. Before, coaches weren't always allowed to play the roster or starting line up they wanted. Instead of a coach watching try outs and having control of his team (at previous ECNL we came from), they were often told player x would be on the team.

The new coaches have also had quite the impact because they are demanding so much more from players. I watched plenty of practices and players would run through drills, and I would see no feedback and then the next drill would start. These guys are now stopping drills and correcting the players. That should have always been the case, but it had reached a point at Spirit where it felt like the club was just going through the motions.

Before, if a player was getting "her start" , she was pretty much guaranteed one full half plus a portion of the next. Now, they know that starting still requires them to earn staying out there.

Those are all changes. So yeah, I'm saying it's different. Is it enough? No, not yet. I'm giving them time on that. Right now, I'm still seeing some of the same things I was told they wouldn't do any more. So I'm giving them a chance for an incremental approach. If they really show they can't do it, she made other teams last year, but we stayed after being told the new direction. She can move just as easily next year.

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And to my fellow MU parents, players didn't just leave to FCV. We know this, but they went to BRYC ECNL, VDA ECNL, and arlington DA. So if we can't become competitive, we will keep losing great players even though we get great players in. We aren't keeping enough all together to succeed.

I know for a fact FCV isn't the only detractors that come here. BRYC is a frequent offender too. If players left, they are pretty rigorously warned off by coaches and parents too. Anywhere but MU. So I think we look foolish by always saying ok FCV coach. Ok FCV parent. Just saying

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Anonymous wrote:And to my fellow MU parents, players didn't just leave to FCV. We know this, but they went to BRYC ECNL, VDA ECNL, and arlington DA. So if we can't become competitive, we will keep losing great players even though we get great players in. We aren't keeping enough all together to succeed.

I know for a fact FCV isn't the only detractors that come here. BRYC is a frequent offender too. If players left, they are pretty rigorously warned off by coaches and parents too. Anywhere but MU. So I think we look foolish by always saying ok FCV coach. Ok FCV parent. Just saying

Is it possible that families are choosing to play on their high school team with friends,ECNL, or a very good local team over being on an unsuccessful / non winning DA team. I don’t think I’d invest the money (at least 5k?) and time if it wasn’t fun nor win a few games. It’s a trade off

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Anonymous wrote:And to my fellow MU parents, players didn't just leave to FCV. We know this, but they went to BRYC ECNL, VDA ECNL, and arlington DA. So if we can't become competitive, we will keep losing great players even though we get great players in. We aren't keeping enough all together to succeed.

I know for a fact FCV isn't the only detractors that come here. BRYC is a frequent offender too. If players left, they are pretty rigorously warned off by coaches and parents too. Anywhere but MU. So I think we look foolish by always saying ok FCV coach. Ok FCV parent. Just saying

Is it possible that families are choosing to play on their high school team with friends,ECNL, or a very good local team over being on an unsuccessful / non winning DA team. I don’t think I’d invest the money (at least 5k?) and time if it wasn’t fun nor win a few games. It’s a trade off

Yes, of course. Player movement happens for different reasons depending on the player, but what I said about BRYC still stands. Both are true. And BRYC lost players to MU and to Arlington too, so someone switching to DA away from high school.

[Anonymous]

FCV beat Metro United yesterday in all age groups. Metro United scored zero goals total.

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Anonymous wrote:FCV beat Metro United yesterday in all age groups. Metro United scored zero goals total.

But how many goals were scored by former Washington Spirit players who now play for FCV? A lot!