TJ admissions now verifying free and reduced price meal status for successful 2026 applicants

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

Completely false. Believing this nonsense betrays the fact that you’ve never existed in one of those school spaces. Which is fine - just stop pretending like you know what you’re talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

Completely false. Believing this nonsense betrays the fact that you’ve never existed in one of those school spaces. Which is fine - just stop pretending like you know what you’re talking about.

You're right, but I like to spread this meme because it's in my personal self-interest, even if it's false. The problem is now there are poors at TJ! Previously one could avoid them by ensuring their little darlings were in these programs by investing a few $$ in prep.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

So true!

Well, we could give them a really hard admissions test and see which one does better on it.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

Woke idiot, please just go away

Or how about this, the next person that works for you will be based on where they grew up. So congrats you get the #2 person from Wyoming who went to Wyoming State. High quality right over Ivies right?

Idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

Woke idiot, please just go away

Or how about this, the next person that works for you will be based on where they grew up. So congrats you get the #2 person from Wyoming who went to Wyoming State. High quality right over Ivies right?

Idiot.

DP: IMO, anyone who uses the word "woke" flags themselves as deluded and easily swayed by propaganda. Add to it using an outdated medical term as an insult and it's a sure thing.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

Woke idiot, please just go away

Or how about this, the next person that works for you will be based on where they grew up. So congrats you get the #2 person from Wyoming who went to Wyoming State. High quality right over Ivies right?

Idiot.

1) being called “woke” doesn’t bother me - it’s not the insult you think it is once you leave the Fox News bubble. Being “asleep”, like you, would probably be worse.

2) There is no such thing as Wyoming State.

3) I’ve been to literally every middle school in Fairfax County, Arlington County, and the City of Falls Church, and most of the ones in Loudoun. How many have you been to?

4) There are TONS of mediocre kids who graduate from Ivies, and there are TONS of mediocre kids running around at AAP centers. Your obsession with status is baseless and, again, betrays your general lack of awareness.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

So true!

Well, we could give them a really hard admissions test and see which one does better on it.

Because, you know, test taking and regurgitation of facts are both extremely important skills in the 21st century.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

AAP exams are given from 2nd to 6th grade (i think) so among the "one reason or other" they failed 5 times over.
Also they must be gloriously failed in the test for algebra.

And for "one reason or other" they will fail once again.
Such a waste of public fund for stem specific lab, to fulfil some school board fantasy, instead of introducing better courses at so called under privileged schools.

The arguments these nativists put up to get back their privilege is so pathetic.
Th

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

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Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

AAP exams are given from 2nd to 6th grade (i think) so among the "one reason or other" they failed 5 times over.
Also they must be gloriously failed in the test for algebra.

And for "one reason or other" they will fail once again.
Such a waste of public fund for stem specific lab, to fulfil some school board fantasy, instead of introducing better courses at so called under privileged schools.

The arguments these nativists put up to get back their privilege is so pathetic.
Th

AAP tests are not given out each year. Teachers and parents have the right to refer their kids, though. If a kid were truly phenomenal, a teacher would have referred that kid for AAP.

Phenomenal kids are not falling through the cracks in FCPS. FCPS has Young Scholars to let the AART get to know any URM or poor kid who shows even a speck of potential. Then, in 2nd grade, URM kids are admitted to AAP with quite low test scores relative to Asian and White kids*. From 3rd-6th, teachers will refer kids for AAP who are phenomenal, but have checked out parents. Even if the kid somehow still doesn't get into AAP, gen ed kids who are strong at math will be placed in advanced math and should have no problem at all with qualifying for Algebra, even without prep. FCPS is already moving mountains to place every above average URM or FARMS kid in AAP. There quite honestly are no "phenomenal" kids at any school who neither were identified for AAP nor qualified for Algebra in 7th.

Now, if PP's argument is that Holmes and Poe don't necessarily have truly gifted kids, but instead their top kids are every bit as good as the kids who've traditionally been in the bottom 1/3 of TJ, I'd buy that. I'm not sure, though, why people are so focused on getting the right demographics for the bottom part of the TJ class, when all of those kids will get much better college admissions at the top of their base school.

*. https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BPLQKV69B096/$file/FCPS%20final%20report%2005.05.20.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

Very true! And many aren't AAP centers because their parents didn't know to push or didn't spend $7k on private evaluation quackery.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

Great point, but I think some purposefully ignore these facts since they feel it's in their personal interest.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is only a small fraction of the applicant’s score. A kid with a 3.5 GPA and very strong essays will have a higher score than the kid with a 4.0 but lower scored essays. Likewise, FARMS + 3.5 has a much higher point total than non FARMS + a 4.0. Kids with Bs who are getting in aren’t the top GPAs in their school, and no schools have grade deflation. Those kids either got FARMS bonus points or had highly rated essays.

Correct. That is what the FCSB decided they wanted for the admissions policy. If they found a legal way to do it, we have to live with it or vote for candidates for the school board that have your views. Does this process lead to a better, smarter, and more gifted class? Probably not, but that isn't what the FCSB decided was what they wanted for TJHSST. They simply have a different goal for the school than you do and have decided on a criteria for admissions that supports their goals.

Only problem was that it was illegal as per federal judge. Case is still on under appeal.

What if anything is happening with the State case that was on-going (Not the Federal case)? I think it was filed in the Fairfax Circuit Court.

It was perfectly legal but a few parents used to gaming admission weren't happy and have taken them to court. It will be summarily dismissed because this holds no merit.

Yes, it's much harder to get in now since the geographic component insures all students have a shot not just those who spend $20k on prep.

The new system ensures that less qualified kids are admitted simply because they live in areas zoned to under-performing middle schools with weak student cohorts.

It is correct to say that generally speaking, many of those middle schools who are increasing their presence have weaker cohorts top to bottom. That’s not a controversial or especially valuable statement.

What is mind-numbingly myopic is to assert that the 75th kid at one of the traditional feeders is a better choice for TJ than the 2nd or 3rd kid from a school that never has historically gotten kids into TJ.

*this*

Nope try again its a STEM school and AAP are magnet centers. There are most likely 75 students at the AAP centers who are better than the #2 or #3 kid at another school from the lower half of the county performance wise.

No, AAP Centers are not magnet schools.

DP but they are magnets in the sense that many AAP centers have kids who are zoned for other base schools. And PP is absolutely right that a #75 at Carson is better qualified than a #2 or 3 at Holmes or Poe (where the much smaller cohort of strong kids is at Frost or Glasgow).

The new system is a scam intended to undermine the very idea of meritocracy, so they might as well just close this watered-down version of TJ. There is nothing this pathetic School Board, given a chance, doesn’t screw up.

Again - if you believe this, you are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have NO IDEA what happens at schools like Holmes and Poe. There are phenomenal kids at all of those schools who aren't at APP centers for one reason or another. You're right that there aren't as many of them, but they are absolutely there and to suggest otherwise destroys your credibility.

Very true! And many aren't AAP centers because their parents didn't know to push or didn't spend $7k on private evaluation quackery.

Teachers are instructed to do a teacher referral for any kids who belong in AAP but have parents who are unlikely to refer. Kids in 7th grade gen ed not only failed to get the scores and other metrics needed in 2nd grade, but they also failed to impress any of their 3rd-6th grade teachers.