Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

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If I don't have a real argument, let me just throw around words like privilege, equity, and oppression. At least I can fool some of the people while making myself feel good.

.... that's literally exactly what you just did. I actually did make an argument which you chose not to respond to.

True but they aren't interested in debate or honesty just clinging to their privilege at everyone else's expense.

That's right THEY are all monsters. I am so goody and love my virtue echo chamber.

Did Google Translate write this?

Yeah. I am not a privileged native English speaker like you. I had to use Google translate.

That makes more sense. Indeed, I am fortunate to have been born in America and to be a native English speaker. But I'm happy to see significantly increased numbers for English Language Learners in TJ's Class of 2025 and I don't see that as a threat to my or my family's privileged status! Cheers.

And yet you mock others.

When they sarcastically mock others themselves? Yeah, I don't lose any sleep over that.

Plenty of people on this forum engage in good-faith arguments in favor of the status quo in less-than-perfect English. I don't mock them. But you shouldn't dish it out if you can't take it.

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If I don't have a real argument, let me just throw around words like privilege, equity, and oppression. At least I can fool some of the people while making myself feel good.

.... that's literally exactly what you just did. I actually did make an argument which you chose not to respond to.

True but they aren't interested in debate or honesty just clinging to their privilege at everyone else's expense.

That's right THEY are all monsters. I am so goody and love my virtue echo chamber.

Did Google Translate write this?

Yeah. I am not a privileged native English speaker like you. I had to use Google translate.

That makes more sense. Indeed, I am fortunate to have been born in America and to be a native English speaker. But I'm happy to see significantly increased numbers for English Language Learners in TJ's Class of 2025 and I don't see that as a threat to my or my family's privileged status! Cheers.

And yet you mock others.

When they sarcastically mock others themselves? Yeah, I don't lose any sleep over that.

Plenty of people on this forum engage in good-faith arguments in favor of the status quo in less-than-perfect English. I don't mock them. But you shouldn't dish it out if you can't take it.

+1000 buuuuuuuurrrrn

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

You mean like families using their privilege to buy their kids the test answers?

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If I don't have a real argument, let me just throw around words like privilege, equity, and oppression. At least I can fool some of the people while making myself feel good.

.... that's literally exactly what you just did. I actually did make an argument which you chose not to respond to.

True but they aren't interested in debate or honesty just clinging to their privilege at everyone else's expense.

That's right THEY are all monsters. I am so goody and love my virtue echo chamber.

Did Google Translate write this?

Yeah. I am not a privileged native English speaker like you. I had to use Google translate.

That makes more sense. Indeed, I am fortunate to have been born in America and to be a native English speaker. But I'm happy to see significantly increased numbers for English Language Learners in TJ's Class of 2025 and I don't see that as a threat to my or my family's privileged status! Cheers.

And yet you mock others.

When they sarcastically mock others themselves? Yeah, I don't lose any sleep over that.

Plenty of people on this forum engage in good-faith arguments in favor of the status quo in less-than-perfect English. I don't mock them. But you shouldn't dish it out if you can't take it.

Haha. You are ranting. Stop embarrassing yourself. You may know mediocre English but your logic needs some serious work.

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If I don't have a real argument, let me just throw around words like privilege, equity, and oppression. At least I can fool some of the people while making myself feel good.

.... that's literally exactly what you just did. I actually did make an argument which you chose not to respond to.

True but they aren't interested in debate or honesty just clinging to their privilege at everyone else's expense.

That's right THEY are all monsters. I am so goody and love my virtue echo chamber.

Did Google Translate write this?

Yeah. I am not a privileged native English speaker like you. I had to use Google translate.

That makes more sense. Indeed, I am fortunate to have been born in America and to be a native English speaker. But I'm happy to see significantly increased numbers for English Language Learners in TJ's Class of 2025 and I don't see that as a threat to my or my family's privileged status! Cheers.

And yet you mock others.

When they sarcastically mock others themselves? Yeah, I don't lose any sleep over that.

Plenty of people on this forum engage in good-faith arguments in favor of the status quo in less-than-perfect English. I don't mock them. But you shouldn't dish it out if you can't take it.

Haha. You are ranting. Stop embarrassing yourself. You may know mediocre English but your logic needs some serious work.

*chuckle* Okay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

I wrote that line in here but I can't take credit for it. Been around for a long time.

I honestly use it because I genuinely believe that a lot of these families cannot imagine a situation where they have much tougher things to worry about than TJ admissions. There are tons of hardworking families in Northern Virginia where both parents work multiple jobs in order to keep the family afloat - and because no one from their kid's elementary school has attended TJ in recent years they have no connection to the admissions process or the strategies to deal with it.

They are concerned with their family's food and shelter security, and perhaps even their child's physical safety, and they trust the public school that they've sent their child to with giving them all of the tools that they need to succeed. They sign their children up for activities not based on what will optimize their chances in the TJ Admissions process, but rather based on what is free and creates supervision for the largest amount of time possible.

Their child takes the bus to school every day, not because it's more convenient for the parents but because they don't have a car, or money for insurance, or for the gas that it takes to get them from A to B. There is no bus that takes them to or from any prep courses that may be available - even if they are free to attend!

But they still believe education to be extremely important to their child's - and their family's - future. Their bright child who gets As in school - even in the face of an environment where being smart is a social pariah, where raising your hand in class is a recipe for ridicule - is their hope for a better tomorrow for their younger siblings.

Not saying I don't respect the struggles of the hypothetical kid in the story, but if my kid lost out to that "experience factors" essay, it wouldn't sit well with me.

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

I wrote that line in here but I can't take credit for it. Been around for a long time.

I honestly use it because I genuinely believe that a lot of these families cannot imagine a situation where they have much tougher things to worry about than TJ admissions. There are tons of hardworking families in Northern Virginia where both parents work multiple jobs in order to keep the family afloat - and because no one from their kid's elementary school has attended TJ in recent years they have no connection to the admissions process or the strategies to deal with it.

They are concerned with their family's food and shelter security, and perhaps even their child's physical safety, and they trust the public school that they've sent their child to with giving them all of the tools that they need to succeed. They sign their children up for activities not based on what will optimize their chances in the TJ Admissions process, but rather based on what is free and creates supervision for the largest amount of time possible.

Their child takes the bus to school every day, not because it's more convenient for the parents but because they don't have a car, or money for insurance, or for the gas that it takes to get them from A to B. There is no bus that takes them to or from any prep courses that may be available - even if they are free to attend!

But they still believe education to be extremely important to their child's - and their family's - future. Their bright child who gets As in school - even in the face of an environment where being smart is a social pariah, where raising your hand in class is a recipe for ridicule - is their hope for a better tomorrow for their younger siblings.

Not saying I don't respect the struggles of the hypothetical kid in the story, but if my kid lost out to that "experience factors" essay, it wouldn't sit well with me.

Hard to compete on some essay when many of the kids are getting $5k-$10k in coaching on how to manipulate the judges when some low-income kid has none of that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

I wrote that line in here but I can't take credit for it. Been around for a long time.

I honestly use it because I genuinely believe that a lot of these families cannot imagine a situation where they have much tougher things to worry about than TJ admissions. There are tons of hardworking families in Northern Virginia where both parents work multiple jobs in order to keep the family afloat - and because no one from their kid's elementary school has attended TJ in recent years they have no connection to the admissions process or the strategies to deal with it.

They are concerned with their family's food and shelter security, and perhaps even their child's physical safety, and they trust the public school that they've sent their child to with giving them all of the tools that they need to succeed. They sign their children up for activities not based on what will optimize their chances in the TJ Admissions process, but rather based on what is free and creates supervision for the largest amount of time possible.

Their child takes the bus to school every day, not because it's more convenient for the parents but because they don't have a car, or money for insurance, or for the gas that it takes to get them from A to B. There is no bus that takes them to or from any prep courses that may be available - even if they are free to attend!

But they still believe education to be extremely important to their child's - and their family's - future. Their bright child who gets As in school - even in the face of an environment where being smart is a social pariah, where raising your hand in class is a recipe for ridicule - is their hope for a better tomorrow for their younger siblings.

Not saying I don't respect the struggles of the hypothetical kid in the story, but if my kid lost out to that "experience factors" essay, it wouldn't sit well with me.

I get that. But in reality your kid would also (and far more directly) be losing out to a bunch of other kids from their school and background who were deemed better fits for the environment that FCPS is trying to create at TJ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

I wrote that line in here but I can't take credit for it. Been around for a long time.

I honestly use it because I genuinely believe that a lot of these families cannot imagine a situation where they have much tougher things to worry about than TJ admissions. There are tons of hardworking families in Northern Virginia where both parents work multiple jobs in order to keep the family afloat - and because no one from their kid's elementary school has attended TJ in recent years they have no connection to the admissions process or the strategies to deal with it.

They are concerned with their family's food and shelter security, and perhaps even their child's physical safety, and they trust the public school that they've sent their child to with giving them all of the tools that they need to succeed. They sign their children up for activities not based on what will optimize their chances in the TJ Admissions process, but rather based on what is free and creates supervision for the largest amount of time possible.

Their child takes the bus to school every day, not because it's more convenient for the parents but because they don't have a car, or money for insurance, or for the gas that it takes to get them from A to B. There is no bus that takes them to or from any prep courses that may be available - even if they are free to attend!

But they still believe education to be extremely important to their child's - and their family's - future. Their bright child who gets As in school - even in the face of an environment where being smart is a social pariah, where raising your hand in class is a recipe for ridicule - is their hope for a better tomorrow for their younger siblings.

Not saying I don't respect the struggles of the hypothetical kid in the story, but if my kid lost out to that "experience factors" essay, it wouldn't sit well with me.

Hard to compete on some essay when many of the kids are getting $5k-$10k in coaching on how to manipulate the judges when some low-income kid has none of that.

Interesting how folks just assert claims as fact. Not to mention the assumptions that go into their "logic".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

I wrote that line in here but I can't take credit for it. Been around for a long time.

I honestly use it because I genuinely believe that a lot of these families cannot imagine a situation where they have much tougher things to worry about than TJ admissions. There are tons of hardworking families in Northern Virginia where both parents work multiple jobs in order to keep the family afloat - and because no one from their kid's elementary school has attended TJ in recent years they have no connection to the admissions process or the strategies to deal with it.

They are concerned with their family's food and shelter security, and perhaps even their child's physical safety, and they trust the public school that they've sent their child to with giving them all of the tools that they need to succeed. They sign their children up for activities not based on what will optimize their chances in the TJ Admissions process, but rather based on what is free and creates supervision for the largest amount of time possible.

Their child takes the bus to school every day, not because it's more convenient for the parents but because they don't have a car, or money for insurance, or for the gas that it takes to get them from A to B. There is no bus that takes them to or from any prep courses that may be available - even if they are free to attend!

But they still believe education to be extremely important to their child's - and their family's - future. Their bright child who gets As in school - even in the face of an environment where being smart is a social pariah, where raising your hand in class is a recipe for ridicule - is their hope for a better tomorrow for their younger siblings.

Not saying I don't respect the struggles of the hypothetical kid in the story, but if my kid lost out to that "experience factors" essay, it wouldn't sit well with me.

Hard to compete on some essay when many of the kids are getting $5k-$10k in coaching on how to manipulate the judges when some low-income kid has none of that.

Interesting how folks just assert claims as fact. Not to mention the assumptions that go into their "logic".

https://curielearning.com/middle-program-7-8

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Also, the notion that there is any type racial balancing going on is BS since everyone knows that's illegal. What they did is simply level the playing field to give less affluent schools a sporting chance. The balance is still heavily tilted in favor of those who use their wealth to supplement their kids chances.,

They explicitly said they wanted to increase the number of black and brown kids.

so?

It's amusing that people say "They wanted to make the school look more like the community it serves!" (or more frequently something more insensitive) as though that's some death blow that should immediately delegitimize the changes to admissions.

This is a racist dogwhistle. Fairfax is majority white, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

Wrong. Fairfax is majority Democrat, that is why the admissions reforms took place.

This is far more true than the white piece.

It sounds like FCPS is going to win the lawsuit, so this will be the new status quo. I hope everyone can accept that and move on.

Math is racist. Merit is a myth. Hard work and equity can't co-exist. Let's move on.

Nobody has said this. I'm sorry you are unable to understand this very basic set of issues. Wealthy areas supplement giving their children an advantage over many equally bright students in less affluent areas. Some wealthy families went as far to buy answers to a test that enabled admission. Publicly funded schools have to benefit all families equally not just those who supplement or attend cram school.

Exactly.

Publicly funded schools have absolutely no right to overtly discriminate against someone just because their kids do supplementary work outside the school. It is completely shameful abuse of power.

No one is overtly discriminating against families who choose to have their kids do supplemental work.

TJ admissions is simply no longer overtly discriminating in favor of those families.

When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

When you establish policy to confer political favors, discrimination is passed off as equity.

Removing a discriminatory policy does not equate to introducing discrimination.

The old admissions policy very heavily discriminated in favor of students and families who had the resources to spend on additional supplemental work that was specifically geared toward the TJ admissions process. The proof was in the results - for TJ's entire history, including well before it became majority Asian, it has overwhelmingly consisted of wealthy families and has had extremely poor representation from students of need.

I don't think the new admissions process is perfect - far from it. But at least it inarguably serves the entire population of Northern Virginia instead of just the wealthier areas of Fairfax and Loudoun.

Of course you can successfully argue that a lottery process is representative. Maybe it should be extended to grading at TJ too. It is far from perfect but it inarguably serves the...blah blah..

There is no lottery element to the new process. It probably feels somewhat like a lottery to families who are no longer able to use their resources to optimize the new admissions process, but the students in the new process were evaluated first against applicants from within their own school, and then against the remaining applicants for the unallocated spots.

So is there a written test of maths and English(comprehension questions) or just writing an essay on students portrait?

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Being proactive is the right approach and I am glad that FCPS is contributing to the wholsome nature of the enterprise which is terrific for the kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

I wrote that line in here but I can't take credit for it. Been around for a long time.

I honestly use it because I genuinely believe that a lot of these families cannot imagine a situation where they have much tougher things to worry about than TJ admissions. There are tons of hardworking families in Northern Virginia where both parents work multiple jobs in order to keep the family afloat - and because no one from their kid's elementary school has attended TJ in recent years they have no connection to the admissions process or the strategies to deal with it.

They are concerned with their family's food and shelter security, and perhaps even their child's physical safety, and they trust the public school that they've sent their child to with giving them all of the tools that they need to succeed. They sign their children up for activities not based on what will optimize their chances in the TJ Admissions process, but rather based on what is free and creates supervision for the largest amount of time possible.

Their child takes the bus to school every day, not because it's more convenient for the parents but because they don't have a car, or money for insurance, or for the gas that it takes to get them from A to B. There is no bus that takes them to or from any prep courses that may be available - even if they are free to attend!

But they still believe education to be extremely important to their child's - and their family's - future. Their bright child who gets As in school - even in the face of an environment where being smart is a social pariah, where raising your hand in class is a recipe for ridicule - is their hope for a better tomorrow for their younger siblings.

Not saying I don't respect the struggles of the hypothetical kid in the story, but if my kid lost out to that "experience factors" essay, it wouldn't sit well with me.

Hard to compete on some essay when many of the kids are getting $5k-$10k in coaching on how to manipulate the judges when some low-income kid has none of that.

Interesting how folks just assert claims as fact. Not to mention the assumptions that go into their "logic".

https://curielearning.com/middle-program-7-8

If you qualify for free-reduced meal, you can be considered for the free or reduced tuition in Curie Learning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you are accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

The more I read these posts the more this rings true!

+1

It is a nice line. Has a good ring to it. Privilege is being able to change the rules of the game so that you don't need to put in the hard yards or sacrifice needed for success. Privilege is using political power to browbeat a minority group and try to pull them down.

I wrote that line in here but I can't take credit for it. Been around for a long time.

I honestly use it because I genuinely believe that a lot of these families cannot imagine a situation where they have much tougher things to worry about than TJ admissions. There are tons of hardworking families in Northern Virginia where both parents work multiple jobs in order to keep the family afloat - and because no one from their kid's elementary school has attended TJ in recent years they have no connection to the admissions process or the strategies to deal with it.

They are concerned with their family's food and shelter security, and perhaps even their child's physical safety, and they trust the public school that they've sent their child to with giving them all of the tools that they need to succeed. They sign their children up for activities not based on what will optimize their chances in the TJ Admissions process, but rather based on what is free and creates supervision for the largest amount of time possible.

Their child takes the bus to school every day, not because it's more convenient for the parents but because they don't have a car, or money for insurance, or for the gas that it takes to get them from A to B. There is no bus that takes them to or from any prep courses that may be available - even if they are free to attend!

But they still believe education to be extremely important to their child's - and their family's - future. Their bright child who gets As in school - even in the face of an environment where being smart is a social pariah, where raising your hand in class is a recipe for ridicule - is their hope for a better tomorrow for their younger siblings.

Not saying I don't respect the struggles of the hypothetical kid in the story, but if my kid lost out to that "experience factors" essay, it wouldn't sit well with me.

Hard to compete on some essay when many of the kids are getting $5k-$10k in coaching on how to manipulate the judges when some low-income kid has none of that.

Interesting how folks just assert claims as fact. Not to mention the assumptions that go into their "logic".

https://curielearning.com/middle-program-7-8

If you qualify for free-reduced meal, you can be considered for the free or reduced tuition in Curie Learning.

In case we were wondering whether or not their staffers are on these boards regularly....