Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

How quickly everyone forgets the victims of this type of horrific violence who are from BOTH sides of the aisle. This type of violence doesn't discriminate and it is perpetrated by deranged individuals regardless of their political affiliation; lunatics who should have had NO access to firearms.

Anyone remember Gabby Giffords? She was shot in an attempted assassination and permanently disabled. And that's just one victim in a long list of past and recent victims (recent, like MN Rep Hortman and MN Sen Hoffman).

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Anonymous wrote:What is going to happen to the right wing narrative that this is the "radical left's" fault if the shooter turns out to be another white right wing gun nut?

It won’t be. I am 100% certain of that.

What about the certainty over the two "trump assassination attempts" which were not leftists? Let's temper things down, please.

You honestly believe Trump supporters are behind shooting Trump?

I mean, use some critical thinking skills.

People who read history and understand human behavior know it’s entirely conceivable that Trump planned that for attention and to help win the election. He would not be the first to do such a thing.

The counterpoint to this is that Trump is entirely too inept to pull this off.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

False flag? Stinks of it.

Antifa doesn’t exist, if they did why aren’t they fighting the real fascists in DC?! They’re leaving the fight to a guy and a sandwich. Total false flag!

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What will happen to the landscape of other media commentators like Shapiro, Peterson, Milo, Fuentes, Owens, Beck etc will they change their speaking circuits?

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

FFS.

You idiot.

I think it is just as plausible that someone who feels betrayed by Charlie Kirk (Loomer fanatic, anyone?) or who feels he isn't loyal enough to Trump would kill him as much as it s plausible it is someone from the left. After all, the right is well known for retributive violence.

The right is a lot less doctrinaire than the left. Your idea doesn't seem likely at all.

Really? How many politicans have left the congress because they wouldn't adhere?

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

If true, who's to say this isn't a false flag?

You’re totally right because the trans community doesn’t have any recent history of violence and shooting people……

Yeah but who'd be dumb enough to mark their rifle with identifying symbols, and then leave it to be found? And what a convenient "leak".

Also, trans community violence is dwarfed in comparison to right wing extremist violence.

On a per capita basis? Are you serious?

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Anonymous wrote:What will happen to the landscape of other media commentators like Shapiro, Peterson, Milo, Fuentes, Owens, Beck etc will they change their speaking circuits?

Please don’t lump Charlie in with Milo
or Fuentes. It’s like lumping Bill Maher in with Destiny.

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Anonymous wrote:Kirk stepped out of line and said the Epstein files should be released. That could have upset some very powerful people.

I think that this is very related.

FFS.

You idiot.

I think it is just as plausible that someone who feels betrayed by Charlie Kirk (Loomer fanatic, anyone?) or who feels he isn't loyal enough to Trump would kill him as much as it s plausible it is someone from the left. After all, the right is well known for retributive violence.

Good lord. We have no idea. Speculating is idiotic and worse than useless—it’s damaging.

The Heritage Foundation released the following words from the organization's president, Kevin Roberts, about the death of Charlie Kirk: “His martyrdom must be a turning point for our country.”

Yes, he said "martyrdom." Remember, we don't even know who killed the man or why.

So, yes, such rhetoric is damaging. Are you outraged at both the PP and the Heritage Foundation?

The killing of the Minnesota politicians didn't warrant a turning point for our country? It's ok for Democrat politicians to be killed, it's only when a right wing pundit gets killed that we need a turning point?

Was this Heritage Foundation clown just trying to incorporate “turning point” into his statement because it was about Charlie Kirk?

Clearly.

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Anonymous wrote:What will happen to the landscape of other media commentators like Shapiro, Peterson, Milo, Fuentes, Owens, Beck etc will they change their speaking circuits?

Please don’t lump Charlie in with Milo
or Fuentes. It’s like lumping Bill Maher in with Destiny.

Milo, Fuentes, and Kirk are different how? I’m genuinely curious because I’m not a listener to any.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

If true, who's to say this isn't a false flag?

You’re totally right because the trans community doesn’t have any recent history of violence and shooting people……

Yeah but who'd be dumb enough to mark their rifle with identifying symbols, and then leave it to be found? And what a convenient "leak".

Also, trans community violence is dwarfed in comparison to right wing extremist violence.

On a per capita basis? Are you serious?

It's a little too convenient that this "leak" happens right after DOJ is trying to ban trans people from owning guns.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

False flag? Stinks of it.

Antifa doesn’t exist, if they did why aren’t they fighting the real fascists in DC?! They’re leaving the fight to a guy and a sandwich. Total false flag!

The wording about "ideology" was lifted directly from a series of insider messages at one of the law enforcement agencies. Doesn't bode well that LE thinks Antifa is actually a thing or that transgender people even have an ideology! No - transgender people are just trying to survive and not get horrifically tortured and murdered, like so many of them are.

I can believe that the perp is a mentally ill person who espouses views opposite to those of Charlie Kirk, either on the even-further-right or the left, and that they are either accepting of gender variations, or very much against them and trying a false flag operation. Either of these would make sense.

But the way this is phrased makes me think no one at these agencies even understands the oppression that transgender people live through, and that makes me sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

If true, who's to say this isn't a false flag?

You’re totally right because the trans community doesn’t have any recent history of violence and shooting people……

Yeah but who'd be dumb enough to mark their rifle with identifying symbols, and then leave it to be found? And what a convenient "leak".

Also, trans community violence is dwarfed in comparison to right wing extremist violence.

On a per capita basis? Are you serious?

Just stop. This is all BS RWNJ propaganda. It’s an unsourced internet hoax.

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Anonymous wrote:Wall Street Journal confirms a leaked document from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) reveals that the weapon found near the site of Charlie Kirk’s assassination was equipped with cartridges engraved with symbols and phrases tied to transgender and Antifa ideology.

False flag? Stinks of it.

Antifa doesn’t exist, if they did why aren’t they fighting the real fascists in DC?! They’re leaving the fight to a guy and a sandwich. Total false flag!

The wording about "ideology" was lifted directly from a series of insider messages at one of the law enforcement agencies. Doesn't bode well that LE thinks Antifa is actually a thing or that transgender people even have an ideology! No - transgender people are just trying to survive and not get horrifically tortured and murdered, like so many of them are.

I can believe that the perp is a mentally ill person who espouses views opposite to those of Charlie Kirk, either on the even-further-right or the left, and that they are either accepting of gender variations, or very much against them and trying a false flag operation. Either of these would make sense.

But the way this is phrased makes me think no one at these agencies even understands the oppression that transgender people live through, and that makes me sad.

Most likely a proud boy or Jan 6’er. They are eliminating rivals to Trump.

[Anonymous]

Trump's personality is the root cause of the recent increase in political violence. He sews division and brings out the worst in people.

[Anonymous]

Why is the old dude being charged with obstruction of justice? What did he do?