Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How long will it be before we see a picture of DJT matching his orange hair and orange body with orange jumpsuit?


Nobody knows how much work is left to be fine by the grand jury. Or if there are extant Nationsl security concerns that need to be buttoned up by the FBI, DoD/DIA, NSA or CIA.
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The FBI, working in concert with ODNI, will also need to undertake a formal assessment of the fallout.
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Anonymous wrote:If this is true, the FBI will lose any shred of credibility they have... which, at this point, isn't much.
And, this will give Republicans even more reason to impeach Garland.


The boxes contain documents and mementos from Trump’s presidency, reportedly including letters from Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un, and other correspondence with world leaders.

A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020.

Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources.


https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/fbi-even-searched-melanias-wardrobe-in-trump-raid/


Then why didn’t he give them back when asked multiple times months ago? What is your point? No matter how you slice it this is bad news for one specific oompa loompa.


He returned boxes of documents. He probably didn't even know these items were there.
Why didn't the DOJ issue a subpoena for the docs? Why a raid?
The FBI is looking pretty damn bad today. As well as the DOJ in general.

They did issue a subpoena in June. Keep up.
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Then there is a matter of interviewing USSS personnel and staff at Mar-a-Lago.
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Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was


Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...


hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.



Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.


If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.


Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).
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Both our allies and enemies are probably shitting themselves. Who knows how much US knew about their nuclear programs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If this is true, the FBI will lose any shred of credibility they have... which, at this point, isn't much.
And, this will give Republicans even more reason to impeach Garland.


The boxes contain documents and mementos from Trump’s presidency, reportedly including letters from Barack Obama and Kim Jong Un, and other correspondence with world leaders.

A legal source said that the boxes had been packed up by the General Services Administration and shipped to Mar-a-Lago when Trump left office in January 2020.

Trump’s attorneys, led by Evan Corcoran, had been cooperating fully with federal authorities on the return of the documents to the National Archives and Records Administration, according to sources.


https://nypost.com/2022/08/09/fbi-even-searched-melanias-wardrobe-in-trump-raid/


Then why didn’t he give them back when asked multiple times months ago? What is your point? No matter how you slice it this is bad news for one specific oompa loompa.


He returned boxes of documents. He probably didn't even know these items were there.
Why didn't the DOJ issue a subpoena for the docs? Why a raid?
The FBI is looking pretty damn bad today. As well as the DOJ in general.


It’s worth noting that it’s not customary to issue a subpoena. Anyone else in unlawful possession of national security information would have been met with a warrant promptly the next morning at 6 am. Trump received one merely as a courtesy given his former office. He still thinks he’s above the law.
They did issue a subpoena in June. Keep up.
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Stochastic terrorism.
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Anonymous wrote:How long will it be before we see a picture of DJT matching his orange hair and orange body with orange jumpsuit?


Good question. Lawyers, what say you?


There is no precedent for this to begin to predict where or how quickly this will go. Given the nature of what's happening here, I expect that DOJ would try to keep things under wrap as long as possible and try not to make the nature of the investigation public information until they were just about ready to file formal criminal charges. But in this instance, given what has been disclosed about the nature of the documents seized, it is possible that national security concerns forced DOJ to act sooner than they otherwise might have wanted to.


DOJ also had to be keenly aware of timing and reports that Trump could announce his candidacy before the midterms. The closer to November the more problematic.

TRUMP ISN’T RUNNING IN THE MIDTERMS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How long will it be before we see a picture of DJT matching his orange hair and orange body with orange jumpsuit?


Good question. Lawyers, what say you?


There is no precedent for this to begin to predict where or how quickly this will go. Given the nature of what's happening here, I expect that DOJ would try to keep things under wrap as long as possible and try not to make the nature of the investigation public information until they were just about ready to file formal criminal charges. But in this instance, given what has been disclosed about the nature of the documents seized, it is possible that national security concerns forced DOJ to act sooner than they otherwise might have wanted to.


DOJ also had to be keenly aware of timing and reports that Trump could announce his candidacy before the midterms. The closer to November the more problematic.

TRUMP ISN’T RUNNING IN THE MIDTERMS.


DP. No one said he was. He could have announced his 2024 presidential candidacy before the mid-terms.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was


Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...


hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.



Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.


If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.


Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).


A team of 24 FBI agents is pretty extraordinary. In many cases the FBI will coordinate with US Marshals or a local joint task force.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How long will it be before we see a picture of DJT matching his orange hair and orange body with orange jumpsuit?


Good question. Lawyers, what say you?


There is no precedent for this to begin to predict where or how quickly this will go. Given the nature of what's happening here, I expect that DOJ would try to keep things under wrap as long as possible and try not to make the nature of the investigation public information until they were just about ready to file formal criminal charges. But in this instance, given what has been disclosed about the nature of the documents seized, it is possible that national security concerns forced DOJ to act sooner than they otherwise might have wanted to.


DOJ also had to be keenly aware of timing and reports that Trump could announce his candidacy before the midterms. The closer to November the more problematic.

TRUMP ISN’T RUNNING IN THE MIDTERMS.


DP. No one said he was. He could have announced his 2024 presidential candidacy before the mid-terms.

Since that election isn’t until 2024 it would have no bearing on this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was


Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...


hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.



Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.


If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.


Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).


A team of 24 FBI agents is pretty extraordinary. In many cases the FBI will coordinate with US Marshals or a local joint task force.

Most if not all of these agents would have to have the highest possible security clearance for this assignment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How long will it be before we see a picture of DJT matching his orange hair and orange body with orange jumpsuit?


Good question. Lawyers, what say you?


There is no precedent for this to begin to predict where or how quickly this will go. Given the nature of what's happening here, I expect that DOJ would try to keep things under wrap as long as possible and try not to make the nature of the investigation public information until they were just about ready to file formal criminal charges. But in this instance, given what has been disclosed about the nature of the documents seized, it is possible that national security concerns forced DOJ to act sooner than they otherwise might have wanted to.


DOJ also had to be keenly aware of timing and reports that Trump could announce his candidacy before the midterms. The closer to November the more problematic.

TRUMP ISN’T RUNNING IN THE MIDTERMS.


Thank you Captain Obvious. Now go reread the post to which you are responding. Simple declarative sentences.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So Garland and the FBI didn't foresee the likelihood that Trump would claim they planted evidence and come out of this appealing to even more voters?
I sure hope they had a good and credible reasons for the raid. Waiting with bated breath to hear what it was


Please tell me you're a nitwit without using the word nitwit...


hey, I said I'm waiting with bated breath to hear the credible reasons for the raid. If it's there, I'll be 100% on the FBI's side. Surprising to me though that Trump is the one advocating most loudly for release of the warrant.



Garland prefers not to say, but probably what happened is that there was a recent realization, perhaps due to a tip-off, that ultra-sensitive nuclear docs were held at Mar-a-lago. That set off an urgent process to recover them before any more harm could be done - harm, meaning our most secret nuclear tech info (US or foreign) used by enemies or potential enemies of the state. You understand that the first entity Trump shares or sells it to can then turn around and sell it to someone else. Once it's out, it's out. Even though Trump had this since he left the WH, the DOJ cannot say "oh it's been so long, what's another few months!". No, as soon as they know, it's the topmost national security priority to recover the docs. They have no choice.

You've got to accept that the LAST thing DOJ wants to do is piss off the MAGA set and set off a political firestorm before the mid terms. DOJ HAD NO CHOICE WHEN THEY REALIZED THE DANGER.

This isn't a little game of owning the right, or owning the left. It's gone beyond the political domestic sphere. We are now at DEFCON 1 in terms of global threat, if all this is indeed true and very sensitive nuclear information has fallen into the wrong hands.

I want to point out here that the public may perhaps never have the full picture, given the sensitive nature of the information. Perhaps a foreign country already has the info, but the American public will never know. Our current and future presidents will have to deal with the fallout of the cursed Trump presidency and post-presidency. Trump himself, if this is really what happened, must be neutralized at all costs. He is a clear and present danger to the USA, our allies (whose nuclear info may have been stolen), and indeed the whole world order.

Again, the public is not the best judge of all of this for now. It's difficult to trust our institutions given the political climate, but I am convinced they are working to defend us.


If it was an urgent process, why wait three days from signature to execute?

It’s called the weekend.


Search warrants can be executed on weekends. More likely there were strategic reasons to wait a few days, such as needing to fully briefs the agents who would be executing the raid on what they are looking for, putting together a plan for where they were to search to make sure no areas were overlooked, the number of other people who would be on the premises at the time (if DOJ was trying to keep this low profile and there are far fewer guests/club members at Mar-a-Lago on a Monday than a Saturday, that could make Monday preferable to execute).


And for all those who think the Biden admin is behind this, The timing of this news couldn’t be worse for the Biden Administration. They are in the cusp of passing a major bill and it’s all being drowned out by the Trump news.
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