Anybody following the Karen Read trial in Boston?

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Anonymous wrote:Why wasn’t the house ever part of the investigation????? If someone was found dead on my front yard, I assume the police would like to rule out that it happened in my house.

Actually, no. If there is not probable cause there will not be a warrant issued to search your house. Especially in this case as JOK was found in the snow with taillights around him and one of the women claiming she hit him.

You keep repeating this nonsense. Did anyone actually TRY to get a warrant??

Please speak to any attorney that is willing to discuss this with you. Or better yet reread the constitution and reflect on our basic rights to not be subject to government searches without probable cause. There was zero basis to get a warrant to search the house.

I’m an attorney. You’re clearly a POS who doesn’t care about people’s rights. You’re a thug

???? Isn’t caring about rights being scrupulous about not overreaching with warrants??Caselaw to support a warrant in this situation???

News flash. They could have gotten a warrant. There was cause.

News flash. Defendants have rights too. Not just cops.

Stop cosplaying someone who knows or cares about rights. You just wanted to see her burn because you think cops should be entitled to do whatever they want.

Like drunk driving around and acting like morons and thugs

You must be a terrible attorney if you think there was probable cause to seek a warrant for that house - there most definitely absolutely WAS NOT, and that is a fact pretty much universally acknowledged by every Commonwealth attorney who has commented on the case.

That said, law enforcement was welcomed into the home by the homeowners minutes after John's body was 'found' (Karen knew exactly where he was, because she hit him and left him there) and LEOs were in the house repeatedly that day. There was zero evidence that anything untoward happened in that house, this is just another red herring of the innocence fraud campaign.

Again, you're a terrible lawyer. I sincerely hope you are not practicing criminal law.

This. When police get a warrant, they have to identify what they're looking for and provide evidence that establishes PC that the thing they're looking for will be found in the location to be searched. They can't just say "These people look suspicious, so we are going to poke around their house and see if we find anything linking them to a murder." They have to say we are looking for a gun or a bloody shirt or a cell phone or a distinctive jacket or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wasn’t the house ever part of the investigation????? If someone was found dead on my front yard, I assume the police would like to rule out that it happened in my house.

Actually, no. If there is not probable cause there will not be a warrant issued to search your house. Especially in this case as JOK was found in the snow with taillights around him and one of the women claiming she hit him.

You keep repeating this nonsense. Did anyone actually TRY to get a warrant??

Please speak to any attorney that is willing to discuss this with you. Or better yet reread the constitution and reflect on our basic rights to not be subject to government searches without probable cause. There was zero basis to get a warrant to search the house.

When you make up your mind without actually investigating, there’s no basis to search anything but Karen’s phone for nudes. Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wasn’t the house ever part of the investigation????? If someone was found dead on my front yard, I assume the police would like to rule out that it happened in my house.

Actually, no. If there is not probable cause there will not be a warrant issued to search your house. Especially in this case as JOK was found in the snow with taillights around him and one of the women claiming she hit him.

You keep repeating this nonsense. Did anyone actually TRY to get a warrant??

Please speak to any attorney that is willing to discuss this with you. Or better yet reread the constitution and reflect on our basic rights to not be subject to government searches without probable cause. There was zero basis to get a warrant to search the house.

I’m an attorney. You’re clearly a POS who doesn’t care about people’s rights. You’re a thug

???? Isn’t caring about rights being scrupulous about not overreaching with warrants??Caselaw to support a warrant in this situation???

Maybe at least knock on the door to advise the homeowners that a dead body was just found in their yard? Or is it disrespectful to bother a homeowner over such a non trivial thing?

[Anonymous]

A dead body in your yard isn’t cause??? He was INSIDE that house that night. He didn’t just walk by.

[Anonymous]

Why are people riding so hard for a woman who drunkenly backed into her BF? It doesn’t seem like she meant to do it, so she may not be a terrible person, but I don’t get the cult following. Don’t people do things like this all the time?

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The jury got it right. The evidence supported the OUI charge. There was credible expert testimony that no collision occurred. That’s reasonable doubt and requires a not guilt on all offenses involving an accident.

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Anonymous wrote:A dead body in your yard isn’t cause??? He was INSIDE that house that night. He didn’t just walk by.

Cause for what?

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Anonymous wrote:A dead body in your yard isn’t cause??? He was INSIDE that house that night. He didn’t just walk by.

Cause for what?

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT HE EVER ENTERED THAT HOUSE. MORE THAN A DOZEN WITNESSES PLUS DIGITAL DATA ARGUE AGAINST HIM EVER ENTERING THE HOUSE. KAREN HERSELF NEVER CLAIMED HE ENTERED THE HOUSE UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR LATER WHEN SHE COOKED UP HER INNOCENCE FRAUD CAMPAIGN.

KAREN READ KILLED JOHN O'KEEFE. PERIOD.

[Anonymous]

Not guilty on all but OUI was the just outcome. People who had her as guilty of murder are either delusional or hadn't spent a minute on the evidence presented. The prosecution never even established that this was a homicide. That's a pretty basic beginning for any kind of murder case. No science, no evidence, just a bunch of calls and a whole pile of shit. Now on to the federal case, where I imagine we'll learn a lot more about the townie popo.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are people riding so hard for a woman who drunkenly backed into her BF? It doesn’t seem like she meant to do it, so she may not be a terrible person, but I don’t get the cult following. Don’t people do things like this all the time?

I think it’s the police bias that was clearly demonstrated throughout the investigation and trials. Most people I know (I live in the area) think there’s a chance she accidentally it, but they can’t get over the police actions.

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Anonymous wrote:A dead body in your yard isn’t cause??? He was INSIDE that house that night. He didn’t just walk by.

Cause for what?

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT HE EVER ENTERED THAT HOUSE. MORE THAN A DOZEN WITNESSES PLUS DIGITAL DATA ARGUE AGAINST HIM EVER ENTERING THE HOUSE. KAREN HERSELF NEVER CLAIMED HE ENTERED THE HOUSE UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR LATER WHEN SHE COOKED UP HER INNOCENCE FRAUD CAMPAIGN.

KAREN READ KILLED JOHN O'KEEFE. PERIOD.

Apparently the jury doesn’t agree whether you use caps or not.

I wish her a wonderful life of freedom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A dead body in your yard isn’t cause??? He was INSIDE that house that night. He didn’t just walk by.

Cause for what?

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT HE EVER ENTERED THAT HOUSE. MORE THAN A DOZEN WITNESSES PLUS DIGITAL DATA ARGUE AGAINST HIM EVER ENTERING THE HOUSE. KAREN HERSELF NEVER CLAIMED HE ENTERED THE HOUSE UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR LATER WHEN SHE COOKED UP HER INNOCENCE FRAUD CAMPAIGN.

KAREN READ KILLED JOHN O'KEEFE. PERIOD.

It’s funny how the police had no evidence of a crime they failed to investigate. There was a broken drinking glass at the scene and he wasn’t dressed for the cold. That and the fact that he’d been texting with people about coming to the house and, you know, the fact that his dead body was found right in front of the house, would result in a warrant to search the house if the house belonged to an average citizen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wasn’t the house ever part of the investigation????? If someone was found dead on my front yard, I assume the police would like to rule out that it happened in my house.

Actually, no. If there is not probable cause there will not be a warrant issued to search your house. Especially in this case as JOK was found in the snow with taillights around him and one of the women claiming she hit him.

You keep repeating this nonsense. Did anyone actually TRY to get a warrant??

Please speak to any attorney that is willing to discuss this with you. Or better yet reread the constitution and reflect on our basic rights to not be subject to government searches without probable cause. There was zero basis to get a warrant to search the house.

I’m an attorney. You’re clearly a POS who doesn’t care about people’s rights. You’re a thug

???? Isn’t caring about rights being scrupulous about not overreaching with warrants??Caselaw to support a warrant in this situation???

News flash. They could have gotten a warrant. There was cause.

News flash. Defendants have rights too. Not just cops.

Stop cosplaying someone who knows or cares about rights. You just wanted to see her burn because you think cops should be entitled to do whatever they want.

Like drunk driving around and acting like morons and thugs

You must be a terrible attorney if you think there was probable cause to seek a warrant for that house - there most definitely absolutely WAS NOT, and that is a fact pretty much universally acknowledged by every Commonwealth attorney who has commented on the case.

That said, law enforcement was welcomed into the home by the homeowners minutes after John's body was 'found' (Karen knew exactly where he was, because she hit him and left him there) and LEOs were in the house repeatedly that day. There was zero evidence that anything untoward happened in that house, this is just another red herring of the innocence fraud campaign.

Again, you're a terrible lawyer. I sincerely hope you are not practicing criminal law.

You must not be an attorney at all if you think they couldn’t have found PC to search the house. They likely didnt because they were cops and everyone knows it.

In this case:
• O’Keefe’s last known location was the house.
• He was found mortally injured outside it.
• There were people inside who admitted he had planned to visit.
• There were inconsistencies and delays in some witness statements.

= PC

Unfortunately they had tunnel vision and focused on karen without actually INVESTIGATING.

You want to be mad, be mad at the CW.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wasn’t the house ever part of the investigation????? If someone was found dead on my front yard, I assume the police would like to rule out that it happened in my house.

Actually, no. If there is not probable cause there will not be a warrant issued to search your house. Especially in this case as JOK was found in the snow with taillights around him and one of the women claiming she hit him.

You keep repeating this nonsense. Did anyone actually TRY to get a warrant??

Please speak to any attorney that is willing to discuss this with you. Or better yet reread the constitution and reflect on our basic rights to not be subject to government searches without probable cause. There was zero basis to get a warrant to search the house.

I’m an attorney. You’re clearly a POS who doesn’t care about people’s rights. You’re a thug

???? Isn’t caring about rights being scrupulous about not overreaching with warrants??Caselaw to support a warrant in this situation???

News flash. They could have gotten a warrant. There was cause.

News flash. Defendants have rights too. Not just cops.

Stop cosplaying someone who knows or cares about rights. You just wanted to see her burn because you think cops should be entitled to do whatever they want.

Like drunk driving around and acting like morons and thugs

You must be a terrible attorney if you think there was probable cause to seek a warrant for that house - there most definitely absolutely WAS NOT, and that is a fact pretty much universally acknowledged by every Commonwealth attorney who has commented on the case.

That said, law enforcement was welcomed into the home by the homeowners minutes after John's body was 'found' (Karen knew exactly where he was, because she hit him and left him there) and LEOs were in the house repeatedly that day. There was zero evidence that anything untoward happened in that house, this is just another red herring of the innocence fraud campaign.

Again, you're a terrible lawyer. I sincerely hope you are not practicing criminal law.

You must not be an attorney at all if you think they couldn’t have found PC to search the house. They likely didnt because they were cops and everyone knows it.

In this case:
• O’Keefe’s last known location was the house.
• He was found mortally injured outside it.
• There were people inside who admitted he had planned to visit.
• There were inconsistencies and delays in some witness statements.

= PC

Unfortunately they had tunnel vision and focused on karen without actually INVESTIGATING.

You want to be mad, be mad at the CW.

What "things to be seized" do you feel the police should have listed in an application for a search warrant? That is, what things should they have looked for inside that house?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A dead body in your yard isn’t cause??? He was INSIDE that house that night. He didn’t just walk by.

Cause for what?

THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT HE EVER ENTERED THAT HOUSE. MORE THAN A DOZEN WITNESSES PLUS DIGITAL DATA ARGUE AGAINST HIM EVER ENTERING THE HOUSE. KAREN HERSELF NEVER CLAIMED HE ENTERED THE HOUSE UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR LATER WHEN SHE COOKED UP HER INNOCENCE FRAUD CAMPAIGN.

KAREN READ KILLED JOHN O'KEEFE. PERIOD.

Of course there is zero evidence. Because they didn’t investigate. Thats the issue.

Sorry, you know damned well they should have searched the house. He was dead on the lawn, he had planned to go inside, he had been invited inside, he wasn’t wearing a coat, his injuries were not particularly consistent with a car hitting him, etc.

Next time tell your cop buddies not to mess with evidence, and to behave like professionals.