Shooting outside Nats Park

Anonymous
Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ban Guns!!!



Yes. I’m sure every firearm involved was (1) lawfully purchased; (2) lawfully registered; (3) lawfully carried with a duly issued permit; and (4) lawfully possessed by a person not prohibited from firearms.

Because if any of those things weren’t true, the firearms in question were already “banned.”

+1000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bowser is not the problem, and I'm no Bowser fan.

Charles Allen, Karl Racine, Brianne Nadeau, etc. This is on them.


Some of this is on Bowser because the buck stops with her and our city's crime has trended up for 4-5 years, under her watch!

However, the lack of concern for residents and victims of crime in the District falls squarely on the above. Here are the Councilmembers' contacts. Have you contacted them to telegraph your disgust? I have.

https://dccouncil.us/councilmembers/


Brianne Nadeau is ostensibly my "representative." She feeds on my disgust. It fortifies her commitment to supporting causes that run exactly contrary to my law-abiding, middle-income family's best interests. If she were to read a critical email from me, she'd turn to the nearest aide for a high five. Making the city less livable for me is a victory to her.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.


So perhaps the owners of the Nats and the developers of Navy Yard properties can leverage some effective pressure on our politicians that we, as mere constituents they can smear as "privileged" and therefore justifiably ignore, can't. Can this please be a turning point?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.


+1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.


+1


She's not "way off on this." She's in way over her head on this. She has no idea what to do, because her political hand$ are tied by donor$ who preach the defund-the-police message. Hint: the name of the political party I'm referring to starts with a D.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.


+1


If a baseball game getting shut down and a fan getting shot doesn’t change the sentiment regarding police funding and leniency in prosecuting offenders nothing will. I’m worried that no event will be jarring enough to change the tide and reverse the murder rate’s upward trend in the past 3 years. How long is it before we have 300 murders a year?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ban Guns!!!



Yes. I’m sure every firearm involved was (1) lawfully purchased; (2) lawfully registered; (3) lawfully carried with a duly issued permit; and (4) lawfully possessed by a person not prohibited from firearms.

Because if any of those things weren’t true, the firearms in question were already “banned.”

+1000


Criminals don't grow guns in their garden. They don't whittle guns out of sticks. A federal bureau of prisons study of inmates found that fully 80% of guns used in crimes were obtained by various quasi-legal means like having friends or family buy them, straw buys, sketchy dealers and gunrunners, gun shows, et cetera. Only around 20% were stolen. Meanwhile that 20% stolen guns number also includes people who were specifically targeted for robbing because the criminals knew you had guns. So much for guns being a deterrent.

If we mandated traceability and accountability like mandatory registration and periodic checks to ensure people still have the guns they purchased in their possession that would eliminate the 80%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.


+1


She's not "way off on this." She's in way over her head on this. She has no idea what to do, because her political hand$ are tied by donor$ who preach the defund-the-police message. Hint: the name of the political party I'm referring to starts with a D.


Fact: DC *did not* defund MPD.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:


He’s not wrong. How much are people talking about the 6 year old killed the night before in a drive by in Southeast?


He is wrong. Both are terrible but more people were at the Nats game. I’m talking about it because I was there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You people are absolutely ridiculous. Point being, why didn't they tell people there what was happening? COMMUNICATION. Silly me, when you hear gun shots, and you don't know if they are in or out of the stadium, you'd like to know!

"Drive by involving two cars outside the park. Remain calm, remain in place, and we will keep you informed." Easy. But no, they had to freak everyone out by corralling the players and ignoring the fans - half of whom were leaving DURING the shooting (Nats were down by 3 at the top of the 6th) - the other half were either screaming or hiding under their seats.

If that is entertaining to you, I wish this situation on you and your family, see how you like it.

If we have to be subjected to this crap, regardless of politics (take it to the politics board) - then at least know how to handle a crises involving tens of thousands of people in your ball park.

I will be seeing baseball in other cities from now on. If nothing else, your PR team and damage control sucks.


It took a few minutes to find out what was going on. It wasn’t a scheduled shooting. How are they supposed to know what to tell you faster than you panic? Duck & cover & wait for instructions like every school kid in America has been trained to do. As soon as they knew, they told people that the incident was outside so stay inside the stadium. Then when they knew there was no threat, they sent people home through exits that did not interfere with the police investigation.


No one knew what was going on, until a fan was shot. Many left after the 6th inning, because the Nats were losing by three points. In the interim, there was a drive by. Nice.

Workers at the gate were not equipped to handle the situation, nor was any one there. If you watched the news coverage, it was NOT 5-10 minutes, but much more.

Why are you defending this crap?



The whole incident was 15 minutes from shots fired to them telling us we could calmly leave the stadium. About halfway through that they did make announcements that it was outside and to stay in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.


What do you expect her to do? Paint words on another street?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you are familiar with the area, one side of S. Capitol has been revitalized/gentrified and is commonly referred to as Navy Yard (the side with Nats Park and the Navy Yard) and then there is the other side of S. Capitol, the side with Audi field, public housing projects, boarded up and abandoned buildings, that look like east Baltimore. It is amazing how one side of S. Capitol is all shiny and literally cross the street and it is a sad war zone.

Same street.


Where are the boarded up and abandoned buildings in SW? Take your time, we're all ears.


Glad you’re all eats. So I know you think you’re clever but S Capitol divides SE and SW. Let’s say you’re standing on S. Capitol with 295 behind you and you’re looking at 395, Nats Park is on the east side of S Capitol in SE and the other side of the street which is on the west side is SW. I parked a a Nats game this week at a parking lot located at 1323 S Capitol St, SW via Park Mobile which is by the corner of S Capitol and N (there is a liquor store right there on the corner). All the buildings from N to mid block of S. Capitol were boarded up with notice of a hearing posted on the doors, same thing with the first block of N SW.

Go down there. On that side of S Capitol, which is the SW quadrant. Report back here what you see. Super sad.


Did you not notice all the new condo buildings, office buildings, restaurants, parks, etc. in the neighborhood. The whole area south of 295 from the Navy Yard to the Waterfront is being redeveloped. There are no derelict blocks there, only already developed blocks and to be developed blocks.

It was random that the shooting happened where it did. It had nothing to do with the neighborhood. Just happened they were driving on South Capitol when people in one car shot at people in another car for whatever idiotic reason. They weren’t from the neighborhood and may not even be DC residents.


Are you suggesting we should be glad that people come to DC to commit crimes?? That seems like an even worse situation. We need to understand why it’s a crime magnet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Rather than overshadowing the other tragic shootings it actually brings the increase in crime and shootings into the spotlight because it was near a big event with literally thousands of people affected.

It also shows dc can’t keep its citizens or visitors safe. A fan was hit by a bullet. It’s a very bad publicity for downtown and could easily Segway into people no longer visiting downtown (many of the families whose kids went through that experience are not coming back) and deal a big blow to revenue.

I’m very surprised the mayor hasn’t made a very public and urgent plan for dealing with the rise in violence using every tool at her disposal. She just keeps blaming factors beyond her control. I think she’s way off on this.


Yes, I was born here and can say we are again a national laughing stock/object of pity, opprobrium and "thank god we don't live there". I hope everyone recovers swiftly from this incident, but it does draw much needed national attention to the every increasing innocent blood shed in our city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

You people are absolutely ridiculous. Point being, why didn't they tell people there what was happening? COMMUNICATION. Silly me, when you hear gun shots, and you don't know if they are in or out of the stadium, you'd like to know!

"Drive by involving two cars outside the park. Remain calm, remain in place, and we will keep you informed." Easy. But no, they had to freak everyone out by corralling the players and ignoring the fans - half of whom were leaving DURING the shooting (Nats were down by 3 at the top of the 6th) - the other half were either screaming or hiding under their seats.

If that is entertaining to you, I wish this situation on you and your family, see how you like it.

If we have to be subjected to this crap, regardless of politics (take it to the politics board) - then at least know how to handle a crises involving tens of thousands of people in your ball park.

I will be seeing baseball in other cities from now on. If nothing else, your PR team and damage control sucks.


It took a few minutes to find out what was going on. It wasn’t a scheduled shooting. How are they supposed to know what to tell you faster than you panic? Duck & cover & wait for instructions like every school kid in America has been trained to do. As soon as they knew, they told people that the incident was outside so stay inside the stadium. Then when they knew there was no threat, they sent people home through exits that did not interfere with the police investigation.


No one knew what was going on, until a fan was shot. Many left after the 6th inning, because the Nats were losing by three points. In the interim, there was a drive by. Nice.

Workers at the gate were not equipped to handle the situation, nor was any one there. If you watched the news coverage, it was NOT 5-10 minutes, but much more.

Why are you defending this crap?



The whole incident was 15 minutes from shots fired to them telling us we could calmly leave the stadium. About halfway through that they did make announcements that it was outside and to stay in.


Disagree. I spoke with other people there and the whole thing was about a half hour, whether you like it or not. Maybe you go through this all the time, maybe it is nothing to you, but people have a reasonable expectation that when a city builds a professional baseball park, even if it is in a bad area, that the fans will be kept safe.

Also, like it or not, there were all types of families t the ball park, maybe even some who (gasp!) look like you. Get over it. I hope that fan sues the city for a ton of money, and I hope it comes out of your tax money.

And yes, children should be safe, too, that goes without saying.

Boy, you people just want to fight each other. No wonder nothing has been done to fix this city. You can't get out of your own way.
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