Pope says no to blessing same-sex unions

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


Oh yeah, they have done a bang-up job of cleaning house.


March 18: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/report-catholic-church-abuse-released-germany-76529424
march 2: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/catholic-church-abuse-france/2021/03/02/0641a868-7b62-11eb-8c5e-32e47b42b51b_story.html
March 1: https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/investigations/david-hammer/new-clergy-sex-abuse-claims-against-archdiocese-pour-in-as-filing-deadline-arrives/289-2cd62057-d8cc-4f46-ac2c-9b68334597d0
February 26: https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/2/26/22302129/catholics-priest-child-sex-abuse-st-john-friary-james-ray-richard-mcgrath-hyde-park-augustinians


How many bishops have been fired for covering these scandals up? They admit that the abuse is wrong but they don't go after those who hid the abuse or fought the claims.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?


Did Fox News repent when they settled their lawsuits?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?


I get what your saying.

They should have a celebration of pedophila, greed and sodomy as one of their sacraments.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?


I get what your saying.

They should have a celebration of pedophila, greed and sodomy as one of their sacraments.


And make gay marriage a sacrament too!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?


I get what your saying.

They should have a celebration of pedophila, greed and sodomy as one of their sacraments.


And make gay marriage a sacrament too!


That’s the sodomy part of the celebration.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?


I get what your saying.

They should have a celebration of pedophila, greed and sodomy as one of their sacraments.


And make gay marriage a sacrament too!


Why specify gay marriage? I thought they wanted marriage to marriage?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?


Did Fox News repent when they settled their lawsuits?


Yes, I believe so. I think the entire building has been repainted. Not sure what color though...

Anonymous
Yeah, dioceses declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying victims does NOT square with the Act of Contrition. The church is led by pedophiles and child abusers. It’s a shame the IRS won’t rescind their tax-free status. By the pope’s logic, our government shouldn’t be blessing sin either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, dioceses declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying victims does NOT square with the Act of Contrition. The church is led by pedophiles and child abusers. It’s a shame the IRS won’t rescind their tax-free status. By the pope’s logic, our government shouldn’t be blessing sin either.


Ironically, the problem is the result of the Church's problems with sex. Imagine a world in which priests could marry. Imagine a world where women could be priests. Or a world where you could have a gay, married priest. The ranks would be filled with people who have a normal relationship with sex, and the pedophile problem would plummet. Instead we are setting up the requirements to drive these candidates away, leaving us attractive mostly to candidates with an abnormal relationship with sex.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/pope-same-sex-unions-licit/2021/03/15/8c51ee80-8581-11eb-be4a-24b89f616f2c_story.html

I can't say I am surprised, but it is another failure of the church to acknowledge science, namely that homosexuality is part of the natural order, and therefore it is part of God's plan.


The Church eventually accepted that the earth moved around the sun, so it's likely that it will eventually accept homosexuality.

Just don't expect it any time soon, even though many Catholic priests are themselves homosexual.


+ 1

I am pretty amazed that their pedophilia and sex abuse is mostly of young boys. And no one calls them out for that.

To be fair no one calls them out for the pedophilia either.
























Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, dioceses declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying victims does NOT square with the Act of Contrition. The church is led by pedophiles and child abusers. It’s a shame the IRS won’t rescind their tax-free status. By the pope’s logic, our government shouldn’t be blessing sin either.


Ironically, the problem is the result of the Church's problems with sex. Imagine a world in which priests could marry. Imagine a world where women could be priests. Or a world where you could have a gay, married priest. The ranks would be filled with people who have a normal relationship with sex, and the pedophile problem would plummet. Instead we are setting up the requirements to drive these candidates away, leaving us attractive mostly to candidates with an abnormal relationship with sex.



No. Pedophilia does not happen because of forced celibacy. Adult relationships may happen because of forced celibacy. Sexual abuse of boys and girls is not due to celibacy. Normal adults don't have sexual urges towards children and animals. Their attraction is towards other adults.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, dioceses declaring bankruptcy to avoid paying victims does NOT square with the Act of Contrition. The church is led by pedophiles and child abusers. It’s a shame the IRS won’t rescind their tax-free status. By the pope’s logic, our government shouldn’t be blessing sin either.


Ironically, the problem is the result of the Church's problems with sex. Imagine a world in which priests could marry. Imagine a world where women could be priests. Or a world where you could have a gay, married priest. The ranks would be filled with people who have a normal relationship with sex, and the pedophile problem would plummet. Instead we are setting up the requirements to drive these candidates away, leaving us attractive mostly to candidates with an abnormal relationship with sex.



No. Pedophilia does not happen because of forced celibacy. Adult relationships may happen because of forced celibacy. Sexual abuse of boys and girls is not due to celibacy. Normal adults don't have sexual urges towards children and animals. Their attraction is towards other adults.


I am not arguing about that. But if you take your candidate pool and eliminate everyone who wants to get married, the people you have left are going to include a lot of potential pedophiiles.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/pope-same-sex-unions-licit/2021/03/15/8c51ee80-8581-11eb-be4a-24b89f616f2c_story.html

I can't say I am surprised, but it is another failure of the church to acknowledge science, namely that homosexuality is part of the natural order, and therefore it is part of God's plan.


The Church eventually accepted that the earth moved around the sun, so it's likely that it will eventually accept homosexuality.

Just don't expect it any time soon, even though many Catholic priests are themselves homosexual.


+ 1

I am pretty amazed that their pedophilia and sex abuse is mostly of young boys. And no one calls them out for that.

To be fair no one calls them out for the pedophilia either.



The independent study found that the reason for this is that priests have more private access to boys than girls, not because of homosexuality.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If “God can’t bless sin,” then naturally God can’t bless a church led by child molesters. The Pope has lost all credibility.


It's different because the Church has repented for the sin of child molestation. They know it's wrong and have paid out large sums of money in legal settlements.

Same-sex couples wanting to marry in the Church are not repentant. They celebrate their homosexuality and expect other Catholics to do the same.


have they fully repented if they use bankrupt and statutes of limitations to shield assets?


Did Fox News repent when they settled their lawsuits?


If you want the church’s moral authority to be on the same footing as Fox News, that compassion makes a ton of sense. Of course, to a lot of people, both organizations are equally morally bankrupt
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