It's Over!!! MD Lifting Capacity Caps on Retail, Dining, Religious Services

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.

You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.

We'll just see won't we? The funny thing is that I'm not professionally qualified, yet I have been right about almost everything during the pandemic. And yes, if you only want to focus on hospitalizations and deaths the numbers aren't bad. But those are lagging indicators and the case counts doing up will drive those numbers up, especially with schools reopening. I can't belief that after all this time getting kids back into school isn't more of a priority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is so demoralizing. My kids are finally back in school and day care after 11 months, now that the holiday spike is over. Yet we're at a higher baseline, arpund 13-14/100k, than we have been since last May. Only 10% of the population is fully vaccinated, and opening everything up to full capacity means cases can only go up from here. We really couldn't wait to vaccinate more people and reduce our baseline? I want my kids to stay in school and I don't want to get covid from them because everyone else is packing restaurants.

But will they? The restaurants still need to maintain the minimum distance between tables, so I still don't think many will be back to pre-covid levels. Not sure what county you are in but MoCo, PG, and maybe even Howard are unlikely to go along with it.

I agree it would have been better to wait a few more weeks to make this move, but I'm not convinced its doomsday either. Rates have been falling even in areas that have been pretty open already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.

You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.

We'll just see won't we? The funny thing is that I'm not professionally qualified, yet I have been right about almost everything during the pandemic. And yes, if you only want to focus on hospitalizations and deaths the numbers aren't bad. But those are lagging indicators and the case counts doing up will drive those numbers up, especially with schools reopening. I can't belief that after all this time getting kids back into school isn't more of a priority.

I think Hogan feels his job is done in regards to schools- he offered his opinion that they should open and moved on to the text thing. He never really cared about schools, if he had he would have provided more consistent leadership as other governors did.

[Anonymous]

This makes absolutely no sense.
Schools open first, then bars etc... at full capacity.

Sigh, this is Maryland, so restaurants and bars prevail, apparently.

Hope the rest of Maryland makes a lot of money off people bringing Rona to the opening eating and drinking establishments. On Friday it's going to be like frat rush week, in any county that decides to open everything up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.

You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.

We'll just see won't we? The funny thing is that I'm not professionally qualified, yet I have been right about almost everything during the pandemic. And yes, if you only want to focus on hospitalizations and deaths the numbers aren't bad. But those are lagging indicators and the case counts doing up will drive those numbers up, especially with schools reopening. I can't belief that after all this time getting kids back into school isn't more of a priority.

I think Hogan feels his job is done in regards to schools- he offered his opinion that they should open and moved on to the text thing. He never really cared about schools, if he had he would have provided more consistent leadership as other governors did.

I think he has tried but his hands are tied in regards to public schools. He did step in when counties tried to shut down the private schools - as he does have some authority there.

[Anonymous]

It's going to be months before I can get a vaccine at this rate, and Hogan has just declared that this weekend will be the start of the St. Patrick's day drinking parties. Smh.

What the everloving freak is Hogan thinking? We can't get enough vaccines, so we will just let people crowd into bars to create herd immunity?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's going to be months before I can get a vaccine at this rate, and Hogan has just declared that this weekend will be the start of the St. Patrick's day drinking parties. Smh.

What the everloving freak is Hogan thinking? We can't get enough vaccines, so we will just let people crowd into bars to create herd immunity?

Yeah the timing is ridiculous- at least wait until after st. Patrick’s day!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want this over. I think this is a huge mistake. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm very worried.

Here are today's numbers, before the restrictions are lifted.

You do see that 9 people in the entire state were admitted to the hospital for COVID yesterday? And 14 died? As high risk folks get vaccinated, the case counts will be irrelevant. In fact, they will contribute to the herd immunity that you are seeking. If you are "very worried," it means that you are not qualified to make public health policy.

We'll just see won't we? The funny thing is that I'm not professionally qualified, yet I have been right about almost everything during the pandemic. And yes, if you only want to focus on hospitalizations and deaths the numbers aren't bad. But those are lagging indicators and the case counts doing up will drive those numbers up, especially with schools reopening. I can't belief that after all this time getting kids back into school isn't more of a priority.

I think Hogan feels his job is done in regards to schools- he offered his opinion that they should open and moved on to the text thing. He never really cared about schools, if he had he would have provided more consistent leadership as other governors did.

Hogan CANNOT force schools to open. Learn the laws of the state you live in. It’s the Board of education of each county that makes the decision. They are the ones that failed the students. Hogan can’t keep everything shut because the unions own the BOE.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's going to be months before I can get a vaccine at this rate, and Hogan has just declared that this weekend will be the start of the St. Patrick's day drinking parties. Smh.

What the everloving freak is Hogan thinking? We can't get enough vaccines, so we will just let people crowd into bars to create herd immunity?

Yeah the timing is ridiculous- at least wait until after st. Patrick’s day!

It makes absolutely no sense.

Hogan could have started reopening slowly *after* St. Patrick's day, working up to memorial day. I was so happy how Maryland was handling the situation, except for the vaccine rollout.

[Anonymous]

We now know who the Republican "base" is in Maryland, have fun partying this weekend!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so demoralizing. My kids are finally back in school and day care after 11 months, now that the holiday spike is over. Yet we're at a higher baseline, arpund 13-14/100k, than we have been since last May. Only 10% of the population is fully vaccinated, and opening everything up to full capacity means cases can only go up from here. We really couldn't wait to vaccinate more people and reduce our baseline? I want my kids to stay in school and I don't want to get covid from them because everyone else is packing restaurants.

But will they? The restaurants still need to maintain the minimum distance between tables, so I still don't think many will be back to pre-covid levels. Not sure what county you are in but MoCo, PG, and maybe even Howard are unlikely to go along with it.

I agree it would have been better to wait a few more weeks to make this move, but I'm not convinced its doomsday either. Rates have been falling even in areas that have been pretty open already.

Apparently, and I say this without reading the whole order, this action by Hogan also removed the abilities of the County execs to enact tighter measures than the state order.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so demoralizing. My kids are finally back in school and day care after 11 months, now that the holiday spike is over. Yet we're at a higher baseline, arpund 13-14/100k, than we have been since last May. Only 10% of the population is fully vaccinated, and opening everything up to full capacity means cases can only go up from here. We really couldn't wait to vaccinate more people and reduce our baseline? I want my kids to stay in school and I don't want to get covid from them because everyone else is packing restaurants.

But will they? The restaurants still need to maintain the minimum distance between tables, so I still don't think many will be back to pre-covid levels. Not sure what county you are in but MoCo, PG, and maybe even Howard are unlikely to go along with it.

I agree it would have been better to wait a few more weeks to make this move, but I'm not convinced its doomsday either. Rates have been falling even in areas that have been pretty open already.

Apparently, and I say this without reading the whole order, this action by Hogan also removed the abilities of the County execs to enact tighter measures than the state order.

Wow. You're absolutely right. The whole "local orders" provision expires on the 12th.

I wonder what this means for the other restrictions in MoCo orders. E.g., the mask provisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so demoralizing. My kids are finally back in school and day care after 11 months, now that the holiday spike is over. Yet we're at a higher baseline, arpund 13-14/100k, than we have been since last May. Only 10% of the population is fully vaccinated, and opening everything up to full capacity means cases can only go up from here. We really couldn't wait to vaccinate more people and reduce our baseline? I want my kids to stay in school and I don't want to get covid from them because everyone else is packing restaurants.

But will they? The restaurants still need to maintain the minimum distance between tables, so I still don't think many will be back to pre-covid levels. Not sure what county you are in but MoCo, PG, and maybe even Howard are unlikely to go along with it.

I agree it would have been better to wait a few more weeks to make this move, but I'm not convinced its doomsday either. Rates have been falling even in areas that have been pretty open already.

Apparently, and I say this without reading the whole order, this action by Hogan also removed the abilities of the County execs to enact tighter measures than the state order.

Wow. You're absolutely right. The whole "local orders" provision expires on the 12th.

I wonder what this means for the other restrictions in MoCo orders. E.g., the mask provisions.

Wow. Elrich is gonna be apoplectic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so demoralizing. My kids are finally back in school and day care after 11 months, now that the holiday spike is over. Yet we're at a higher baseline, arpund 13-14/100k, than we have been since last May. Only 10% of the population is fully vaccinated, and opening everything up to full capacity means cases can only go up from here. We really couldn't wait to vaccinate more people and reduce our baseline? I want my kids to stay in school and I don't want to get covid from them because everyone else is packing restaurants.

But will they? The restaurants still need to maintain the minimum distance between tables, so I still don't think many will be back to pre-covid levels. Not sure what county you are in but MoCo, PG, and maybe even Howard are unlikely to go along with it.

I agree it would have been better to wait a few more weeks to make this move, but I'm not convinced its doomsday either. Rates have been falling even in areas that have been pretty open already.

Apparently, and I say this without reading the whole order, this action by Hogan also removed the abilities of the County execs to enact tighter measures than the state order.

Wow. You're absolutely right. The whole "local orders" provision expires on the 12th.

I wonder what this means for the other restrictions in MoCo orders. E.g., the mask provisions.

Wow. Elrich is gonna be apoplectic.

Are we sure that’s right? I haven’t seen anything in the news about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so demoralizing. My kids are finally back in school and day care after 11 months, now that the holiday spike is over. Yet we're at a higher baseline, arpund 13-14/100k, than we have been since last May. Only 10% of the population is fully vaccinated, and opening everything up to full capacity means cases can only go up from here. We really couldn't wait to vaccinate more people and reduce our baseline? I want my kids to stay in school and I don't want to get covid from them because everyone else is packing restaurants.

But will they? The restaurants still need to maintain the minimum distance between tables, so I still don't think many will be back to pre-covid levels. Not sure what county you are in but MoCo, PG, and maybe even Howard are unlikely to go along with it.

I agree it would have been better to wait a few more weeks to make this move, but I'm not convinced its doomsday either. Rates have been falling even in areas that have been pretty open already.

Apparently, and I say this without reading the whole order, this action by Hogan also removed the abilities of the County execs to enact tighter measures than the state order.

Wow. You're absolutely right. The whole "local orders" provision expires on the 12th.

I wonder what this means for the other restrictions in MoCo orders. E.g., the mask provisions.

Wow. Elrich is gonna be apoplectic.

Are we sure that’s right? I haven’t seen anything in the news about that.

Page 3. Paragraph 1e -

“ Subject to paragraph I.e below, if a political subdivision determines that doing so is necessary and reasonable to save lives or prevent exposure to COVID-19, the political subdivision is hereby authorized to issue orders that are more restrictive than this Order (“Local Orders”):
i. requiring any businesses, organizations, establishments, or facilities (except schools) to close or modify their operations; and/or
ii. requiring individuals to remain indoors or to refrain from congregating.
e. Paragraph I.d above shall cease to be effective at 5:00 p.m. on March 12, 2021, at which time all Local Orders issued pursuant to paragraph I.d above shall become null and void.”