No One’s Coming

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:this is the reason we haven't grappled with climate change--we have such a difficult time placing value on future outcomes relative to present sacrifices.


Did you see this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ecowatch.com/amp/lockdown-air-pollution-temperature-2650268659

I’m not trying to start a debate - I think it’s complicated & just sharing info.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are you a teacher, PP?
If so - know that millions of women have given up jobs and career advancement to stay at home to help their children. Millions. We are, as women, employed at rates now from the 1970s.

So, if you are a teacher and refuse to work IN PERSON - QUIT. Stop collecting your pay other and benefits.

And stop the drama of “you are sacrificing” if you have to be in person. Are you a smoker, obese or above 65?
Move on.


teachers working in person will only give OP a small part of what she wants. She also wants libraries open for her kids to be able to go get books, and low cost swim classes meaning reopen the public indoor pools. And people want playdates, and sleepovers, and for their kids boyfriends to be able to come over.

So what you are asking for is for all the rules of the pandemic to be dropped, so kids can have their lives back.

When is all of that going to happen? When are we going to be able to take our kids to the mall, and Chuck E Cheese for a crappy birthday party, out to the movies? To the library for story hour?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Are you a teacher, PP?
If so - know that millions of women have given up jobs and career advancement to stay at home to help their children. Millions. We are, as women, employed at rates now from the 1970s.

So, if you are a teacher and refuse to work IN PERSON - QUIT. Stop collecting your pay other and benefits.

And stop the drama of “you are sacrificing” if you have to be in person. Are you a smoker, obese or above 65?
Move on.

No, but I am pregnant, so my risk of serious illness, mechanical ventilation, and death from COVID are elevated. Again, I’m a teacher, not a martyr. I am working from home until September, when I’ll decide whether or not to return, based on what’s best for MY family. Other women are not required to work under unsafe conditions so you can go back to work. That isn’t feminism. Again, you are not my boss and you don’t dictate the conditions of my employment. Feel free to quit your own job if you’re unhappy with your life-you don’t get to dictate how society runs during a pandemic. If you have a hard time managing your career and motherhood, then have a conversation with your husband about it.
It’s sad how our country has refused to fund schools and now expects teachers to be invested in “saving the economy” by putting their lives at risk. We know how we’ll be paid back-not at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you a teacher, PP?
If so - know that millions of women have given up jobs and career advancement to stay at home to help their children. Millions. We are, as women, employed at rates now from the 1970s.

So, if you are a teacher and refuse to work IN PERSON - QUIT. Stop collecting your pay other and benefits.

And stop the drama of “you are sacrificing” if you have to be in person. Are you a smoker, obese or above 65?
Move on.

No, but I am pregnant, so my risk of serious illness, mechanical ventilation, and death from COVID are elevated. Again, I’m a teacher, not a martyr. I am working from home until September, when I’ll decide whether or not to return, based on what’s best for MY family. Other women are not required to work under unsafe conditions so you can go back to work. That isn’t feminism. Again, you are not my boss and you don’t dictate the conditions of my employment. Feel free to quit your own job if you’re unhappy with your life-you don’t get to dictate how society runs during a pandemic. If you have a hard time managing your career and motherhood, then have a conversation with your husband about it.
It’s sad how our country has refused to fund schools and now expects teachers to be invested in “saving the economy” by putting their lives at risk. We know how we’ll be paid back-not at all.



What are you talking about? Most of the work force has returned to work in-person unless their jobs are able to be completed 100% online. Public school teaching can’t be done well for all kids 100% online. That is what public education needs to do so it needs to be done in-person.

Everyone is back to work in-person accepting some level of risk to keep their jobs. It’s not taking a risky job or being a feminist. It’s working and keeping a job in the post Covid19 world.

There will never be a time again where the risk of Covid19 in your workplace will be zero if you don’t have one of the rare telecommuting jobs which allow 100% remote work. Even then, you have to eventually leave your home and accept risk.

Who ever told people that we need to wait until the risk is zero? Thank goodness none of my doctor friends decided they needed to wait for that. Or grocery workers. Not to mention daycare providers.

And women are losing jobs at the highest rate since the 1970s because we have to juggle virtual schooling. Is standing up to the teachers union and the board of Ed keeping schools closed and demanding they open so we can somehow return to our jobs feminism?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you a teacher, PP?
If so - know that millions of women have given up jobs and career advancement to stay at home to help their children. Millions. We are, as women, employed at rates now from the 1970s.

So, if you are a teacher and refuse to work IN PERSON - QUIT. Stop collecting your pay other and benefits.

And stop the drama of “you are sacrificing” if you have to be in person. Are you a smoker, obese or above 65?
Move on.

No, but I am pregnant, so my risk of serious illness, mechanical ventilation, and death from COVID are elevated. Again, I’m a teacher, not a martyr. I am working from home until September, when I’ll decide whether or not to return, based on what’s best for MY family. Other women are not required to work under unsafe conditions so you can go back to work. That isn’t feminism. Again, you are not my boss and you don’t dictate the conditions of my employment. Feel free to quit your own job if you’re unhappy with your life-you don’t get to dictate how society runs during a pandemic. If you have a hard time managing your career and motherhood, then have a conversation with your husband about it.
It’s sad how our country has refused to fund schools and now expects teachers to be invested in “saving the economy” by putting their lives at risk. We know how we’ll be paid back-not at all.



What are you talking about? Most of the work force has returned to work in-person unless their jobs are able to be completed 100% online. Public school teaching can’t be done well for all kids 100% online. That is what public education needs to do so it needs to be done in-person.

Everyone is back to work in-person accepting some level of risk to keep their jobs. It’s not taking a risky job or being a feminist. It’s working and keeping a job in the post Covid19 world.

There will never be a time again where the risk of Covid19 in your workplace will be zero if you don’t have one of the rare telecommuting jobs which allow 100% remote work. Even then, you have to eventually leave your home and accept risk.

Who ever told people that we need to wait until the risk is zero? Thank goodness none of my doctor friends decided they needed to wait for that. Or grocery workers. Not to mention daycare providers.

And women are losing jobs at the highest rate since the 1970s because we have to juggle virtual schooling. Is standing up to the teachers union and the board of Ed keeping schools closed and demanding they open so we can somehow return to our jobs feminism?


Everyone is not back in an office.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you a teacher, PP?
If so - know that millions of women have given up jobs and career advancement to stay at home to help their children. Millions. We are, as women, employed at rates now from the 1970s.

So, if you are a teacher and refuse to work IN PERSON - QUIT. Stop collecting your pay other and benefits.

And stop the drama of “you are sacrificing” if you have to be in person. Are you a smoker, obese or above 65?
Move on.

No, but I am pregnant, so my risk of serious illness, mechanical ventilation, and death from COVID are elevated. Again, I’m a teacher, not a martyr. I am working from home until September, when I’ll decide whether or not to return, based on what’s best for MY family. Other women are not required to work under unsafe conditions so you can go back to work. That isn’t feminism. Again, you are not my boss and you don’t dictate the conditions of my employment. Feel free to quit your own job if you’re unhappy with your life-you don’t get to dictate how society runs during a pandemic. If you have a hard time managing your career and motherhood, then have a conversation with your husband about it.
It’s sad how our country has refused to fund schools and now expects teachers to be invested in “saving the economy” by putting their lives at risk. We know how we’ll be paid back-not at all.



What are you talking about? Most of the work force has returned to work in-person unless their jobs are able to be completed 100% online. Public school teaching can’t be done well for all kids 100% online. That is what public education needs to do so it needs to be done in-person.

Everyone is back to work in-person accepting some level of risk to keep their jobs. It’s not taking a risky job or being a feminist. It’s working and keeping a job in the post Covid19 world.

There will never be a time again where the risk of Covid19 in your workplace will be zero if you don’t have one of the rare telecommuting jobs which allow 100% remote work. Even then, you have to eventually leave your home and accept risk.

Who ever told people that we need to wait until the risk is zero? Thank goodness none of my doctor friends decided they needed to wait for that. Or grocery workers. Not to mention daycare providers.

And women are losing jobs at the highest rate since the 1970s because we have to juggle virtual schooling. Is standing up to the teachers union and the board of Ed keeping schools closed and demanding they open so we can somehow return to our jobs feminism?


Everyone is not back in an office.

No, and this is not a "post COVID 19 world" when thousands of people are still dying every day. Lots of holes in this argument. It's also laughable when people use medical professionals (who, by definition, are exposed to sick people through their jobs) as examples-where is the anger at the doctors whose offices were closed for MONTHS providing only BS telehealth visits? My father has chronic, debilitating pain and was unable to receive any treatment from March through July because the doctors were too afraid to show up in person, to work in a sterile controlled environment with one patient at a time. The vast majority of medical professionals do not work in the ER or in the ICU, so let's take all other healthcare providers off that hero pedestal. Many of them are still working primarily remotely to this day, making it basically impossible to schedule in person appointments for people who need medical care. So brave!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are you a teacher, PP?
If so - know that millions of women have given up jobs and career advancement to stay at home to help their children. Millions. We are, as women, employed at rates now from the 1970s.

So, if you are a teacher and refuse to work IN PERSON - QUIT. Stop collecting your pay other and benefits.

And stop the drama of “you are sacrificing” if you have to be in person. Are you a smoker, obese or above 65?
Move on.

No, but I am pregnant, so my risk of serious illness, mechanical ventilation, and death from COVID are elevated. Again, I’m a teacher, not a martyr. I am working from home until September, when I’ll decide whether or not to return, based on what’s best for MY family. Other women are not required to work under unsafe conditions so you can go back to work. That isn’t feminism. Again, you are not my boss and you don’t dictate the conditions of my employment. Feel free to quit your own job if you’re unhappy with your life-you don’t get to dictate how society runs during a pandemic. If you have a hard time managing your career and motherhood, then have a conversation with your husband about it.
It’s sad how our country has refused to fund schools and now expects teachers to be invested in “saving the economy” by putting their lives at risk. We know how we’ll be paid back-not at all.




What are you talking about? Most of the work force has returned to work in-person unless their jobs are able to be completed 100% online. Public school teaching can’t be done well for all kids 100% online. That is what public education needs to do so it needs to be done in-person.

Everyone is back to work in-person accepting some level of risk to keep their jobs. It’s not taking a risky job or being a feminist. It’s working and keeping a job in the post Covid19 world.

There will never be a time again where the risk of Covid19 in your workplace will be zero if you don’t have one of the rare telecommuting jobs which allow 100% remote work. Even then, you have to eventually leave your home and accept risk.

Who ever told people that we need to wait until the risk is zero? Thank goodness none of my doctor friends decided they needed to wait for that. Or grocery workers. Not to mention daycare providers.

And women are losing jobs at the highest rate since the 1970s because we have to juggle virtual schooling. Is standing up to the teachers union and the board of Ed keeping schools closed and demanding they open so we can somehow return to our jobs feminism?


Everyone is not back in an office.


Roughly 19% have the ability to telework fulltime.
https://www.shrm.org/resourcesandtools/hr-topics/benefits/pages/despite-reopenings-many-employees-will-keep-working-remotely.aspx
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