WSJ: the Secrets of Elite College Admissions

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Anonymous wrote:Top 15 or "Ivy Plus" has been a thing for a while.

Ivies make 8
Stanford, Duke, MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Cal Tech (I guess?)...Hopkins? Makes 15.

I really can't think of a good reason to distinguish between Northwestern/Hopkins and schools like Vanderbilt, WUSTL, Rice, and Emory. Also, Caltech is better than MIT.

Ivy Plus is not top 15, it is 12 schools. Ivy Plus is defined as: Ivy League, Duke, Stanford, MIT and Chicago.

Defined by who for what? The Ivy league is and athletic conference with very very different schools included. Small rural Dartmouth is in the ivy league with Columbia University in one of the most urban environments available. So what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top 15 or "Ivy Plus" has been a thing for a while.

Ivies make 8
Stanford, Duke, MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Cal Tech (I guess?)...Hopkins? Makes 15.

I really can't think of a good reason to distinguish between Northwestern/Hopkins and schools like Vanderbilt, WUSTL, Rice, and Emory. Also, Caltech is better than MIT.

Ivy Plus is not top 15, it is 12 schools. Ivy Plus is defined as: Ivy League, Duke, Stanford, MIT and Chicago.

Duke really doesn’t deserve to be on that list. I’ve met so many rich idiot bros that went there, coasting on the coattails of their parents. Duke deserves to be dropped for CalTech or Hopkins.

[Anonymous]

“Ivies” originally designated the high hitting four horsemen:

IV = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia.

[Anonymous]

Example of freshmen class geo diversity at an elite school (MIT 2024): New England 8%, Mid-Atlantic 22%, South 16%, Midwest 12%, Southwest 11%, West Coast AK HI 20%, International 10%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Ivies” originally designated the high hitting four horsemen:

IV = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia.

even those 4 are quite different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Ivies” originally designated the high hitting four horsemen:

IV = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia.

When and for whom? Never seen Columbia lumped with HYP unless other schools were in the mix as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top 15 or "Ivy Plus" has been a thing for a while.

Ivies make 8
Stanford, Duke, MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Cal Tech (I guess?)...Hopkins? Makes 15.

I really can't think of a good reason to distinguish between Northwestern/Hopkins and schools like Vanderbilt, WUSTL, Rice, and Emory. Also, Caltech is better than MIT.

Ivy Plus is not top 15, it is 12 schools. Ivy Plus is defined as: Ivy League, Duke, Stanford, MIT and Chicago.

Duke really doesn’t deserve to be on that list. I’ve met so many rich idiot bros that went there, coasting on the coattails of their parents. Duke deserves to be dropped for CalTech or Hopkins.

Caltech is too small a school to make a splash, almost provincial

[Anonymous]

"Caltech is too small a school to make a splash, almost provincial."

??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Caltech is too small a school to make a splash, almost provincial

"The Jet Propulsion Laboratory is a unique national research facility that carries out robotic space and Earth science missions. JPL helped open the Space Age by developing America's first Earth-orbiting science satellite, creating the first successful interplanetary spacecraft, and sending robotic missions to study all the planets in the solar system as well as asteroids, comets and Earth's moon. In addition to its missions, JPL developed and manages NASA's Deep Space Network, a worldwide system of antennas that communicates with interplanetary spacecraft.

JPL is a federally funded research and development center managed for NASA by Caltech. From the long history of leaders drawn from the university's faculty to joint programs and appointments, JPL's intellectual environment and identity are profoundly shaped by its role as part of Caltech."

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/about/

I'm gonna say your comment reflects an "almost provincial" view of the world at large.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Caltech is too small a school to make a splash, almost provincial

Some DCUMers' view of the college world is essentially the same as this New Yorker cover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Caltech is too small a school to make a splash, almost provincial."

??

Cal Tech has 948 undergrads total. It is tiny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Ivies” originally designated the high hitting four horsemen:

IV = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia.

When and for whom? Never seen Columbia lumped with HYP unless other schools were in the mix as well.

If you check the USNews ranking, Columbia moves up and down trading places with Princeton and Yale, some years ranking higher than either of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Caltech is too small a school to make a splash, almost provincial."

??

Cal Tech has 948 undergrads total. It is tiny.

Being tiny, it just doesn't have the critical mass for anything. It's one dimensional. If all a student does is to focus on GPA and standardized test scores all his or her life, a reasonably smart student should be able to top out in one area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Caltech is too small a school to make a splash, almost provincial

Some DCUMers' view of the college world is essentially the same as this New Yorker cover.

That is hilariously true. I would include much of DCUM’s view of the world at large in that illustration, but with DC taking the place of NYC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Ivies” originally designated the high hitting four horsemen:

IV = Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Columbia.

When and for whom? Never seen Columbia lumped with HYP unless other schools were in the mix as well.

If you check the USNews ranking, Columbia moves up and down trading places with Princeton and Yale, some years ranking higher than either of them.

ok but Princeton is in quiet little Princeton NJ and Columbia is in NYC so regardless of year to year rank - they are not for the same kids.