new Reade/Biden thread

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Anonymous wrote:This is not about Republicans, people.

It’s about whether Bernie supporters and Independents will go to the polls to vote for scummy Biden. I think not.

This is about rethuglicans who only care about the 1% and der Trump is the leader of them.

Vote Blue no matter who! Every vote counts so do not waste it by not voting or voting for some 3rd party candidate.

Sorry, but no. I cannot vote for that senile creep. I will sit this one out or go 3rd party.

Then you will essentially be voting for Trump. WHen will people understand that our elections often force us to either have no voice at all or vote for the candidate that we feel is the lesser of 2 evils? That's just the way it is, and you sitting this one out won't change a thing. One of them will still be president. If you want to take a stand against our process, then great! It does suck! But please find a way to do so in an effective way that won't result in 4 more years of Trump.

If you feel so strongly that this is correct (I don't, BTW), then you need to get on your party leaders to get him replaced. Biden is not the person for this campaign, or to run against Trump, or for the job of President. You know that as well as I do and yet "we" allowed this to happen.

Sorry, but no. If we have to live through four more years of Trump to make this point, I think the longer term end game is worth it.

If you actually believe this, you were never going to vote for a Dem anyway. You make absolutely no sense.

The PP above makes perfect sense. You just can't see it. We need a new candidate or November will be a disaster.
But you just keep whistling past the graveyard with Joe Biden and Chris Dodd

You mean Bernie, who couldn't get his mass of supporters out to vote for him? Or Warren, who didn't even win her own state? Who's this magical candidate who you think is going to swoop in and activate black voters, suburban women, independents, and these persnickety Bernie voters who hate everyone?

You know exactly who it is: Michelle Obama.

Ah, yes, she does seem so eager to run for president.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not about Republicans, people.

It’s about whether Bernie supporters and Independents will go to the polls to vote for scummy Biden. I think not.

This is about rethuglicans who only care about the 1% and der Trump is the leader of them.

Vote Blue no matter who! Every vote counts so do not waste it by not voting or voting for some 3rd party candidate.

Sorry, but no. I cannot vote for that senile creep. I will sit this one out or go 3rd party.

Then you will essentially be voting for Trump. WHen will people understand that our elections often force us to either have no voice at all or vote for the candidate that we feel is the lesser of 2 evils? That's just the way it is, and you sitting this one out won't change a thing. One of them will still be president. If you want to take a stand against our process, then great! It does suck! But please find a way to do so in an effective way that won't result in 4 more years of Trump.

If you feel so strongly that this is correct (I don't, BTW), then you need to get on your party leaders to get him replaced. Biden is not the person for this campaign, or to run against Trump, or for the job of President. You know that as well as I do and yet "we" allowed this to happen.

Sorry, but no. If we have to live through four more years of Trump to make this point, I think the longer term end game is worth it.

If you actually believe this, you were never going to vote for a Dem anyway. You make absolutely no sense.

The PP above makes perfect sense. You just can't see it. We need a new candidate or November will be a disaster.
But you just keep whistling past the graveyard with Joe Biden and Chris Dodd

You mean Bernie, who couldn't get his mass of supporters out to vote for him? Or Warren, who didn't even win her own state? Who's this magical candidate who you think is going to swoop in and activate black voters, suburban women, independents, and these persnickety Bernie voters who hate everyone?

You know exactly who it is: Michelle Obama.

Who has already said she doesn't want to do it and they'll probably find some young doctor to say she harrassed him when she was a hospital administrator. Or maybe we'll have a six-month long national debate about whether children should be forced to eat their veggies.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

You know the answer, this isn't hard.

Interns who violated the dress code in 1990 would have been handled the same as, or more harshly than, interns who violate the dress code today (wearing jeggings to the office today). They'd be sent home to get pantyhose. Nobody would be a repeat violator. Tara was on the Hill for months, so unless that day was her first ever day not wearing hose, I'm not buying her legs were bare.

Also, I worked on Capital Hill and the office manager--almost always a woman--had extra hose.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

You know the answer, this isn't hard.

Interns who violated the dress code in 1990 would have been handled the same as, or more harshly than, interns who violate the dress code today (wearing jeggings to the office today). They'd be sent home to get pantyhose. Nobody would be a repeat violator. Tara was on the Hill for months, so unless that day was her first ever day not wearing hose, I'm not buying her legs were bare.

Also, I worked on Capital Hill and the office manager--almost always a woman--had extra hose.

What time of day did the alleged assault happen , did Tara ever say? If after normal business hours she may have taken off her hose.

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It’s so funny, I worked as an intern on the Hill in the early 90s and never remember a dress code with pantyhose . I mean, I was always dressed professionally with pantyhose, so so guess I never needed to be reminded to wear them. I would never think that would be an issue to attack her alleged assault claim.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

DC was more uptight in the 90s than it is now. My goodness, female attorneys were wearing pantyhose to court in 95 degree weather. I remember when I arrived 1997 and appeared at a status hearing with bare legs. You would have thought I committed a mortal sin based on the comments I received from the then long timers. I can only imagine that working on the Hill was not much better.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

You know the answer, this isn't hard.

Interns who violated the dress code in 1990 would have been handled the same as, or more harshly than, interns who violate the dress code today (wearing jeggings to the office today). They'd be sent home to get pantyhose. Nobody would be a repeat violator. Tara was on the Hill for months, so unless that day was her first ever day not wearing hose, I'm not buying her legs were bare.

Also, I worked on Capital Hill and the office manager--almost always a woman--had extra hose.

No I don't know the answer, and actually it is hard. I've been around a long time. People get away with stuff. They also get in trouble for stuff and do it again anyway. Or they take their pantyhose off when nobody is looking. Unless you personally know how strict Biden's office was in April 1993, you are just guessing.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

DC was more uptight in the 90s than it is now. My goodness, female attorneys were wearing pantyhose to court in 95 degree weather. I remember when I arrived 1997 and appeared at a status hearing with bare legs. You would have thought I committed a mortal sin based on the comments I received from the then long timers. I can only imagine that working on the Hill was not much better.

Sure, but you did it and you weren't sent home. I'm not doubting that pantyhose were the expected norm. Just doubting that it was IMPOSSIBLE for any intern on The Hill to EVER be bare-legged at ANY time.

I don't believe Reade. But it's pretty silly to argue she's a liar because we know she followed the dress code 35 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

You know the answer, this isn't hard.

Interns who violated the dress code in 1990 would have been handled the same as, or more harshly than, interns who violate the dress code today (wearing jeggings to the office today). They'd be sent home to get pantyhose. Nobody would be a repeat violator. Tara was on the Hill for months, so unless that day was her first ever day not wearing hose, I'm not buying her legs were bare.

Also, I worked on Capital Hill and the office manager--almost always a woman--had extra hose.

What time of day did the alleged assault happen , did Tara ever say? If after normal business hours she may have taken off her hose.

Oh FFS

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

You know the answer, this isn't hard.

Interns who violated the dress code in 1990 would have been handled the same as, or more harshly than, interns who violate the dress code today (wearing jeggings to the office today). They'd be sent home to get pantyhose. Nobody would be a repeat violator. Tara was on the Hill for months, so unless that day was her first ever day not wearing hose, I'm not buying her legs were bare.

Also, I worked on Capital Hill and the office manager--almost always a woman--had extra hose.

What time of day did the alleged assault happen , did Tara ever say? If after normal business hours she may have taken off her hose.

Oh FFS

What is wrong with PPPs question? It’s a valid question.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

DC was more uptight in the 90s than it is now. My goodness, female attorneys were wearing pantyhose to court in 95 degree weather. I remember when I arrived 1997 and appeared at a status hearing with bare legs. You would have thought I committed a mortal sin based on the comments I received from the then long timers. I can only imagine that working on the Hill was not much better.

+1. My well-known DC not-for-profit just got rid of the pantyhose requirement in the last decade (and yes, it was a subject of jokes and irritation among female staff). Before that I worked for another big not-for-profit that got rid of the panty-hose requirement in the early 2000s.

DC is very different from NYC and the rest of the US. We've been criticized for being behind in fashion....

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

You know the answer, this isn't hard.

Interns who violated the dress code in 1990 would have been handled the same as, or more harshly than, interns who violate the dress code today (wearing jeggings to the office today). They'd be sent home to get pantyhose. Nobody would be a repeat violator. Tara was on the Hill for months, so unless that day was her first ever day not wearing hose, I'm not buying her legs were bare.

Also, I worked on Capital Hill and the office manager--almost always a woman--had extra hose.

What time of day did the alleged assault happen , did Tara ever say? If after normal business hours she may have taken off her hose.

Oh FFS

What is wrong with PPPs question? It’s a valid question.

It's grasping at straws. And unless and until Tara offers clarification, nobody will know, so why speculate here.

[Anonymous]

Wow you people are hypocritical pigs if your defense of Biden raping a woman hangs on a dress code violation. He’s gotta go as the nominee. Trump will win for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow you people are hypocritical pigs if your defense of Biden raping a woman hangs on a dress code violation. He’s gotta go as the nominee. Trump will win for sure.

Well, fortunately, it doesn't hinge on that. He's not going anywhere. He's the nominee, warts and all. I think Biden will still win because Trump has set the bar pretty low.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on twitter brought up a valid point. She claims to have also been a senate staffer at the time and recalled that the dress code required women to wear pantyhose with skirts. Those of us who are old enough to remember pantyhose can verify that they were constricting enough to practically cut off circulation. It is hard to imagine that he was able to reach up her skirt and inside pantyhose far enough to penetrate. Especially while standing up in a hallway where someone could have walked by at anytime.

I'm from that generation and I remember thigh highs. Don't you? They were all the rage,
Any plenty of women have worn stockings with a garter versus actual pantyhose. Some do for health reasons.

Not in the early 90s

Yes, in the early 90s. My mother bought them for me. Who they hell are you to speak for all women and products?

I am someone who was in my early 20s in the early 90s.

And so was I! Yet, I was given and WORE thigh highs!

To work? LOL. Ok, maybe you did. But, literally, I don't know anyone else who did that. I wore a lot of tights and hose, though. As did most if not all the women I knew.

Why are you so stuck on this issue? I was a poor college student working at a nonprofit. My mom bought them for me and I gladly accepted her gift. Do you always make fun of other women and their clothing ? What a sad person you must be with little self-esteem.

Why don't you two start your own thread? Tara Reade has not said she was wearing thigh highs, she said she had bare legs. So you twits should take your personal spat elsewhere, maybe to the Fashion forum.

For the record, thigh highs are ridiculous.

They were a thing back in the 90's, and I wore them sometimes in the summer because they were cooler (especially in DC) and I have long legs so they fit me better. But I don't think most people did.

But her story falls apart for me because she says she had bare legs. No one had bare legs.

I don't believe Reade anyway, but this is an awfully slender point to hang. Of all the thousands of interns that went through Capitol Hill in the 1990s, it's hard to believe that not one ever violated the dress code.

You know the answer, this isn't hard.

Interns who violated the dress code in 1990 would have been handled the same as, or more harshly than, interns who violate the dress code today (wearing jeggings to the office today). They'd be sent home to get pantyhose. Nobody would be a repeat violator. Tara was on the Hill for months, so unless that day was her first ever day not wearing hose, I'm not buying her legs were bare.

Also, I worked on Capital Hill and the office manager--almost always a woman--had extra hose.

What time of day did the alleged assault happen , did Tara ever say? If after normal business hours she may have taken off her hose.

Oh FFS

What is wrong with PPPs question? It’s a valid question.

It's grasping at straws. And unless and until Tara offers clarification, nobody will know, so why speculate here.

Literally every post prior to yours was about the veracity of her accusation because she was not wearing pantyhose, in violation of supposed Capitol Hill dress code. I was asking what time of day alleged attack occurred because if it happened late in day after office staff left, she might have felt she could violate said dress code by taking off her pantyhose without being reprimanded.