St Albans for black students

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one at STA has heard of this incident. No one.

Lol. You’re hilarious.

Just like no one heard of another Close school incident from a few years ago. The perpetrator from that situation remains and at least five kids left school.

The Cathedral schools will protect their brand and not your family or black child. I recommend you contact the press and let them know. WaPo and other news outlets will do a good job of protecting your minor’s identity. I know they are interested in your story. Also, consider transferring. Your child’s mental health is not worth the abuse he is experiencing.

It’s about time for the veil of darkness to come off. The only way for that to happen is to shine light on it.

+1

Maybe PP could shine a light on the incident from a few years ago as well. If sunlight is a disinfectant (and it is), then we ought to be letting the sun come out on all of this. Maybe it's time for STA to clean house with some families.

families.

You don’t want me to break the story. I’ll leave it to the excellent journalists in NY and DC. Believe me, they are working and will do a better job 😉

Regarding cleaning house, I agree - they should.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one at STA has heard of this incident. No one.

Lol. You’re hilarious.

Just like no one heard of another Close school incident from a few years ago. The perpetrator from that situation remains and at least five kids left school.

The Cathedral schools will protect their brand and not your family or black child. I recommend you contact the press and let them know. WaPo and other news outlets will do a good job of protecting your minor’s identity. I know they are interested in your story. Also, consider transferring. Your child’s mental health is not worth the abuse he is experiencing.

It’s about time for the veil of darkness to come off. The only way for that to happen is to shine light on it.

+1

Maybe PP could shine a light on the incident from a few years ago as well. If sunlight is a disinfectant (and it is), then we ought to be letting the sun come out on all of this. Maybe it's time for STA to clean house with some families.

families.

You don’t want me to break the story. I’ll leave it to the excellent journalists in NY and DC. Believe me, they are working and will do a better job 😉

Regarding cleaning house, I agree - they should.


Hahahahaha

Go get high to the attic, your parents won't notice

[Anonymous]

PP whose son was the victim of racial aggression, I am curious as to whether your raised this issue to the level of HOS?

Did the incident occur at the LS or US? You don't have to respond, but my sense is that US admins are better equipped to deal with racism than LS.

The HOS has made what seems a sincere attempt to address racism more aggressively. I find it hard to believe that he would hear your story and dismiss it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP whose son was the victim of racial aggression, I am curious as to whether your raised this issue to the level of HOS?

Did the incident occur at the LS or US? You don't have to respond, but my sense is that US admins are better equipped to deal with racism than LS.

The HOS has made what seems a sincere attempt to address racism more aggressively. I find it hard to believe that he would hear your story and dismiss it.

PP's story has about zero credibility so, even if heard, and even if investigated, it would most likely be dismissed as the fake story it surely is.

If true, there would be a ton of evidence and HOS would certainly have acted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP whose son was the victim of racial aggression, I am curious as to whether your raised this issue to the level of HOS?

Did the incident occur at the LS or US? You don't have to respond, but my sense is that US admins are better equipped to deal with racism than LS.

The HOS has made what seems a sincere attempt to address racism more aggressively. I find it hard to believe that he would hear your story and dismiss it.

PP's story has about zero credibility so, even if heard, and even if investigated, it would most likely be dismissed as the fake story it surely is.

If true, there would be a ton of evidence and HOS would certainly have acted.

I'm not sure it has ZERO credibility, but I find it hard to believe that the use of racial slurs (including the N word), combined with threats on a boy's life, combined with physical violence would be tolerated--at all--at STA, or anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP whose son was the victim of racial aggression, I am curious as to whether your raised this issue to the level of HOS?

Did the incident occur at the LS or US? You don't have to respond, but my sense is that US admins are better equipped to deal with racism than LS.

The HOS has made what seems a sincere attempt to address racism more aggressively. I find it hard to believe that he would hear your story and dismiss it.

PP's story has about zero credibility so, even if heard, and even if investigated, it would most likely be dismissed as the fake story it surely is.

If true, there would be a ton of evidence and HOS would certainly have acted.

I'm not sure it has ZERO credibility, but I find it hard to believe that the use of racial slurs (including the N word), combined with threats on a boy's life, combined with physical violence would be tolerated--at all--at STA, or anywhere.

I'd hope so. When I was there, anyone using that kind of language would not only have been disciplined by the school, but also by their classmates. If the parent reporting these issues would like, I'm on an alumni board that airs things like these. Happy to find a way to provide my contact information and help bring it to the attention of the school as part of our general oversight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a STA graduate from decades ago. I had multiple African Americans in my class, all of whom I consider to be friends, and some of whom I have maintained relations over the decades Some were athletic, some were not. Some were among the top students, some were not. Ask STA Admissions for the names of a few current parents.

I was a STA student and I left because of the culture and climate towards African Americans. I was not the only one. Ask STA Admissions what happened and why we left within the last three years. Also, ask them how many African American males teach academic courses. Thanks!

I know African American (and Jewish) kids that left but it was because of some of the families and boys not because of the faculty and administration. The new headmaster is wonderful. The person claiming to have screenshots. If that were true I think STA would have kicked them out because I know for a fact they have kicked out other boys when they were shown screenshots or other things that were written. Teachers are everywhere and even monitor the bathrooms so I don’t understand how you could have a physical bullying situation happening in school and not have them be aware of it. The faculty and administration are good people and I do not think they would allow this if they know. If this is really true and you have screenshots please contact the head of school about this. He would want to know and trust that he will take proper action.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a STA graduate from decades ago. I had multiple African Americans in my class, all of whom I consider to be friends, and some of whom I have maintained relations over the decades Some were athletic, some were not. Some were among the top students, some were not. Ask STA Admissions for the names of a few current parents.

I was a STA student and I left because of the culture and climate towards African Americans. I was not the only one. Ask STA Admissions what happened and why we left within the last three years. Also, ask them how many African American males teach academic courses. Thanks!

I know African American (and Jewish) kids that left but it was because of some of the families and boys not because of the faculty and administration. The new headmaster is wonderful. The person claiming to have screenshots. If that were true I think STA would have kicked them out because I know for a fact they have kicked out other boys when they were shown screenshots or other things that were written. Teachers are everywhere and even monitor the bathrooms so I don’t understand how you could have a physical bullying situation happening in school and not have them be aware of it. The faculty and administration are good people and I do not think they would allow this if they know. If this is really true and you have screenshots please contact the head of school about this. He would want to know and trust that he will take proper action.

Sta parent here. Ds is a minority. I agree with this assessment of the headmaster and faculty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a STA graduate from decades ago. I had multiple African Americans in my class, all of whom I consider to be friends, and some of whom I have maintained relations over the decades Some were athletic, some were not. Some were among the top students, some were not. Ask STA Admissions for the names of a few current parents.

I was a STA student and I left because of the culture and climate towards African Americans. I was not the only one. Ask STA Admissions what happened and why we left within the last three years. Also, ask them how many African American males teach academic courses. Thanks!

I know African American (and Jewish) kids that left but it was because of some of the families and boys not because of the faculty and administration. The new headmaster is wonderful. The person claiming to have screenshots. If that were true I think STA would have kicked them out because I know for a fact they have kicked out other boys when they were shown screenshots or other things that were written. Teachers are everywhere and even monitor the bathrooms so I don’t understand how you could have a physical bullying situation happening in school and not have them be aware of it. The faculty and administration are good people and I do not think they would allow this if they know. If this is really true and you have screenshots please contact the head of school about this. He would want to know and trust that he will take proper action.

Would they kick out the child of a faculty member?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a STA graduate from decades ago. I had multiple African Americans in my class, all of whom I consider to be friends, and some of whom I have maintained relations over the decades Some were athletic, some were not. Some were among the top students, some were not. Ask STA Admissions for the names of a few current parents.

I was a STA student and I left because of the culture and climate towards African Americans. I was not the only one. Ask STA Admissions what happened and why we left within the last three years. Also, ask them how many African American males teach academic courses. Thanks!

I know African American (and Jewish) kids that left but it was because of some of the families and boys not because of the faculty and administration. The new headmaster is wonderful. The person claiming to have screenshots. If that were true I think STA would have kicked them out because I know for a fact they have kicked out other boys when they were shown screenshots or other things that were written. Teachers are everywhere and even monitor the bathrooms so I don’t understand how you could have a physical bullying situation happening in school and not have them be aware of it. The faculty and administration are good people and I do not think they would allow this if they know. If this is really true and you have screenshots please contact the head of school about this. He would want to know and trust that he will take proper action.

Sta parent here. Ds is a minority. I agree with this assessment of the headmaster and faculty.

We aren’t talking about minorities. We are talking about black boys. Other minorities don’t of the same or even similar experience.

[Anonymous]

Has this boy no close friends on the Cathedral grounds? He has been attending classes on the Close for 10 years or more and does not have a group of friends in whom he can confide?If he had someone to talk to, word would have reached the administration in less than a week.

I'm wondering if the boy did something so egregious that he is ashamed to admit it and that he is under pressure from a friend to admit what he did. Just conjecture on my part.

And to the alumnus who wanted a BSU.....that proposal was shut down thirty years ago by a black administrator who foresaw the possibility of a WSU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has this boy no close friends on the Cathedral grounds? He has been attending classes on the Close for 10 years or more and does not have a group of friends in whom he can confide?If he had someone to talk to, word would have reached the administration in less than a week.

I'm wondering if the boy did something so egregious that he is ashamed to admit it and that he is under pressure from a friend to admit what he did. Just conjecture on my part.

And to the alumnus who wanted a BSU.....that proposal was shut down thirty years ago by a black administrator who foresaw the possibility of a WSU.

Oh dear Jesus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has this boy no close friends on the Cathedral grounds? He has been attending classes on the Close for 10 years or more and does not have a group of friends in whom he can confide?If he had someone to talk to, word would have reached the administration in less than a week.

I'm wondering if the boy did something so egregious that he is ashamed to admit it and that he is under pressure from a friend to admit what he did. Just conjecture on my part.

And to the alumnus who wanted a BSU.....that proposal was shut down thirty years ago by a black administrator who foresaw the possibility of a WSU.

I’m wondering if you’re the worlds biggest a**hole or just in the top ten. If you assume something happened as you do, speculating that it’s the kid’s fault is just gross. Call it conjecture all you want but your thoughts say more about you than this kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the poster whose son was victimized. We are by no means helicopter parents and my son by no means a victim. He had endured the situation for 9 months and said nothing. We later learned he went to school in terror everyday. He had always heard racial slurs bandied about but, he said, he just rolled with it as all the black boys do. Even the school admitted they’d come across incidents of racism but that my son’s case was by far the worst they had seen.
And I found out quite by chance. I was sick when I found out, scared out of my wits and felt so much pain for my son who had not known how to handle what was happening. He was scared as it got progressively worse but he didn’t not feel it was right given the rules they live by -“For the Boys” or was too scared (not sure now) to break ranks. He was not sure if telling someone would make things worse. He thought about going to the dean at the time because the physical abuse was getting worse but was still thinking about it, he said, when, just by some random turn of events, I found out. When we found out he was 60% relieved that now we know and 40% scared about what the fall out would be.
You see, he knew the school better than we did and he was right to be scared. We feel stupid for expecting the school to do the right thing. I remember his saying when it was all happening-I knew it would be like this. I knew they would try to play this down. I will end up losing my friends and nothing will be done. It was a nightmare and the truth of what happened is still not known to many people and those who know will never say anything.
What I will say is that the majority of the boys who knew what was going on during those 9 months knew only about the verbal abuse and they tried, as best as boys that age could, to stop it.
My dilemma is this: I know a great injustice has been done I know no one else should have to go through this and they will and this is my biggest motivation to bring this out into the open. However fighting such a system is hard. Will it get harder for him in the school’s effort to fight what is revealed? My son has been “punished” for inadvertently bringing a side of the school to light that they would rather not be exposed. I cannot wait for him to leave. He went through a lot of humiliation from the school and at one point it almost felt like he was the perpetrator -it was sickening. I can imagine how rape victims who are partly blamed simply because they are women feel and this is even worse in a way because there was no “he said she said”. The evidence was/is there in black and white and yet they tried to diminish it. How do you diminish a threat to dispose of someone because they are a “Nword” who is too uppity (their words)? But they did. And that is just the tip of the iceberg.
My other problem is the boy who did this. Is this something he continues to do or was it something he is now ashamed of and is truly sorry about? Should he have consequences that will definitely impact the rest of his life - no good university will accept him if this is public -(think the Harvard boy whose acceptance was withdrawn)? This is worse. Should I, with children of my own bring this upon another child? Yet how would I avoid this if I bring this to light publicly?
I just don’t know.
And the fall out continues for my son even outside what is happening at school. He is a different person whose eyes were opened to the reality of racism and the difficulty of really fighting it and being vindicated, by a system that is supposed to protect him. For which we pay $50k a year.

I wonder if Jeff Steele can share with us if the PP and the OP are one and the same ?

Just my observation that any parent with a child in a school and intending to keep them there would not post on DCUM to such detail as to self identify ----assuming they truly believe the Admin is a self protective as they allege.

This reads like troll bate from a professional ( a writer maybe ) who needs to solicit comments

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you considering the impact that this may have on the child the has bullied your son? Your primary concern needs to be your son. You can be certain that the other boy's parents have and will continue to make their son their priority. Stop being an apologist, and teach your son how to stand up for himself by being an example and an advocate for him. Your son has every right to exist and thrive at STA. If he has not due to his own shortcomings (if that is even a real thing) fine, but this does not appear to be the case. In the very least you should be transferring him to another school. I can't believe that a parent would be so desperate for an elite education that they would allow this situation to continue. What good is a STA education if his self-esteem is destroyed. I really feel for any child that is left to fend for himself in such a hostile environment without a courageous adult by his side, teaching him how to effectively push back. He and you are not helpless. Teach him how to grasp and leverage his power. Pulling back the curtain is sometimes necessary.

Because maybe the OP is a novelist ?

and your responses to their post are being added to their material

As many posters have said, including AA adults, this is not the school they went to being described.

It does read, however,like someone's conceived idea