I think that's exactly the issue. When you spank you've given yourself permission to vent your frustration with your kids physically. It's very easy for it to go from quick smack on the butt when they're 3 to beating the crap out of them when they're a mouthy 10 year old. So yes a lot of people who were spanked as children were in fact beaten because spanking is violence and violence escalates. To do it without anger and increasing violence takes a lot of patience and control, which if they had that, they wouldn't be hitting their kids. |
I disagree. If you decide ahead of time that you will do one or two light taps on the clothed butt, or whatever it is, and never escalate beyond that, it is fine in my opinion and can be a reasoned decision. Though I agree it takes patience and control. I just disagree with your contention that spanking automatically means you lack patience and control. |
It doesn't automatically mean that, but the reality is that a lot of people habe a tendency to lose their temper. A lot of people lack self awareness and knowing what they can and can't handle. A lot of people lack patience and control. And a lot of people can say ahead of time they're only going to do this and that, but when push comes to shove they take their anger out on their kid. It's too easy for it to go down badly. I think if you do it you're playing with fire. I know my parents loved us and I know they never intended for spanking to get out of control. But it doesn't change the fact that it eacalated over the years to the point that I was still being whipped bare assed by my father in middle school, and slapped across the face until I was in college and it occurred to me that what was happening would now be considered assault. |
Don’t project your abuse on to this and turn it into something it’s not. Leaving welts and bruises are very different than a smack on the bottom. Sorry if your folks abused you but the fact remains spanking is not abuse. For the record I didn’t spank my kid bc she pissed me off. I spanked her as a punishment. I don’t punish out of anger. Maybe that’s something you couldn’t ever understand coming from an abusive home. |
| I just can’t imagine hitting my kids or any kid for that matter. Especially as a reasoned, cold-blooded decision. Is it because you are bigger and stronger and they are dependent on you and so you know they can’t fight back? |
I'm speaking from experience with parents who thought like you do. It starts with a smack. She hit you then you hit her back and called it punishment. Had she been an adult it would be considered assault. Calling it spanking doesn't change what it is. |
Your lazy parenting, which is what hitting ("spanking") is, does ruin your kid's day. I promise. |
8 at very oldest but I can't remember. definitely not past 8. |
Says the parent with the kid who will tell them to “shut up” or call them a curse word. |
That’s sort of the point of punishment and consequences. |
I’m guessing there are just as many people who spank in a controlled and effective fashion and never “escalate to increasing violence.” Since you’re making a strong allegation based on numbers do you have data to support your position and how it compares to the number of people who don’t escalate? |
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Spanking is bad. End of story. It was made illegal in the UK. A woman who spanked her son and then hit him with a hair brush ONE TIME had him removed from her home.
The bigger issue is reporting and having a welfare network equipped to deal with the problem. |
We don’t live in the UK. End of story. |
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48, yes, occasionally, until maybe I was 8 or 9? I remember it making me feel very humiliated and shamed. More yellin than hitting though.
I do not spank but I do yell, and I am starting to think that might be worse. or at least as bad.
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34, yes by Latino parents. I was hit with belt, cords, flip flop, whatever was around. I sometimes had to kneel down too. My mom would sometimes stand by the door with a belt and scream at me to go to the other room. I would try to run through the door fast enough so the belt wouldn't touch me. As I got older I was just smacked/slapped.
I was very mouthy and disrespectful as a kid. |