Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh was the republican hack for years, now he wants to be a boy scout, playing the "I don't know that woman" game?

Why god is laughing at Brett Kavanaugh

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/17/kavanaugh-supreme-court-ford-sexual-assault-219983

Democratic motive on full display in that article.

You don't get to hold the moral high ground at your convenience. Karma is a bitch.

Might want to get a mirror, look directly into it, and repeat those words.
-Not the PP

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Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or that the public pressure/GOP-Dem pressure behind closed doors is more than it seems.

Or that they don't give a shit and know that no matter what comes out in any hearing, Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

I don't think that's right. If that was the case they would have pushed through the vote. This took them by surprise. I think some combination of Sasse, Corker, Flake, Murkowski and Collins threatened defection without a hearing and all red state Democrats said no yes without a hearing.

They're counting on her not being credible because this is really stupid if they have any intention of confirming K. A public testimony of this assault will only make it more difficult to confirm him. Watching a woman publicly verbally describe an assault will be worse than reading it.

I think they picked Monday because they think that's enough time to dig up dirt but honestly the Republicans are stupid. If they wanted to seal this up before midterms they should have either forced a vote this week or cut K loose and go for another nominee.

Republicans CAN’T cut K loose. Trump nominated him. Only Trump can pull the nomination. And TRump always, always, always, always fights back no matter what. They have to vote him down (pissed Trump base) or vote him forward (pissed women). It is lose-lose. Mitch McTurtle didn’t want K to begin with. Right now, he would do anything in his power to make him go away.

I think that there are quite a few R Senators who hope more women come forward and this nomination becomes untenable. Because they are cowards and don’t want to have to vote.

PP, you do not even have the most basic idea how government works. No one can make Trump withdraw Kavanaugh, but no one can make the Senate give him a vote.

McConnell wants, more than anything, to keep the Senate in Republican hands. If he senses that confirming Kavanaugh in the face of these allegations will turn off voters, he will simply not schedule a vote.

Without a vote, Kavanaugh would withdraw himself in order to regain some semblance of normal life.

Kavanaugh will never again have any semblance of a normal life; nor will his family. This allegation - whether true or false - has instantly turned him into a pariah.

Many high profile types recently ousted by MeToo allegations are slowly creeping back into the spotlight. Even if Kavanaugh doesn’t get confirmed, he will likely retain his current position, feel a little local heat, then be back to normal.

Sorry, but if this accusation is false, he will never again be "back to normal." I imagine his daughters are already being mocked and bullied, by having a "rapist" as a dad - as I'm sure many parents in this area are telling their kids. He's a marked man. At this point, doesn't matter if he did it or not - most of you have already decided he's guilty. It's sickening.

She has presented a pretty convincing narrative which includes naming people present who were actually his friends at the time. Plus, no one would make up a rape story and add an extra witness, who is friends with the alleged assailant, to the room.

I’m sorry you are having difficulty accepting this, but people are believing him to be guilty because that is what the known facts support.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) misogyny is alive and well in this country and B) victims of sexual assault are incredibly brave to speak out against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this woman and attempted to discredit her is really gross.

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Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) feelings of jealousy and hatred of men are alive and well by many on this thread and B) victims of sexual assault accusations (not convictions) are incredibly brave to try to defend themselves against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this man (Kavanaugh) and attempted to discredit and convict him via one woman's accusations of attempted rape and suffocation after 30+ years is really gross.

So in your mind, women (and men) who defend the accuser’s right to be heard and not summarily dismissed and/or savaged and discredited equates to people who are jealous and hate men?

Okie dokie.

NOPE. Not what I said. I'm saying that I don't think the accused should be "savaged and discredited" either. And, yes, there have been a lot of DCUM posts on Kavanaugh threads that describe men--and Kavanaugh, in particular-- in an incredibly vile and negative way.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.

And his girls basketball team. If that were my daughter, I would be flipping my lid right now.

Of course you would. Because how dare a man with an unblemished record treat his daughters' basketball teammates to Supreme Court confirmation hearing! But no, you - you'd be hysterical with outrage.

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Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or they’re hoping against hope no more victims emerge.

There’s already chatter about additional people.

Links? Sources? Didn't think so.

There certainly have been many rumors today. Wait and see. Quite a few posters here yesterday were insisting Professor Ford would not go public.

To bad she didn't go public years ago, when there could have been a full investigation, either implicating him or clearing his name.

Indeed, well too bad people slander and drag accusers through the mud, slut shame them, ask about what they were wearing and whether they were drinking, suggest they had it coming or deserved it, suggest they encouraged it, suggest they just wanted sex and then changed their minds afterward, to name a few. Once that changes maybe more will come forward at the time of their attacks.

Well, certainly, victims - or alleged victims - would be more believable if they would report assault immediately rather than waiting decades and expecting to be believed without any corroborating evidence. I've been teaching my daughter that if she is ever assaulted, she *must* report it immediately if we hope to get justice. Waiting only makes it that much less credible within the justice system. Sorry you don't like hearing the truth.

Are you also teaching her that you will be sympathetic to her attacker and concerned about the repercussions of any reporting on him. Because, as you point out, it may just ruin the poor boy’s reputation.

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Anonymous wrote:She didn't even tell his name to the therapist.

This story just does not ring true.

Would you believe it if there were pics? No, I didn't think so. Because you think women are dirt.

Also why you're so eager to confirm a man hell-bent on repealing women's reproductive rights.

You saw the Franken photos and still don't believe it.

Last time I checked, Franken was sent home for being a naughty boy. Why isn't Brett being held to the same standar? Jim Jordon? Donald Trump?

Because, GOP.

How soon you forget, silly. Democrats led the charge to oust Franken. While some Republicans agreed, the vast majority of Dems decided he was just too immoral to remain in the Senate. Because of a stupid prank. You people are your own worst enemies.

Collins was leading the way on ousting him. Lest we forget her threshold. Let's see if she is consistent.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What does this have to do with anything? His wife and daughters aren't accused of anything.

You are a horrible and disgusting person. I certainly hope no one accuses any of your loved ones of anything; especially with zero evidence. Just their word.
-DP

You're a good person. I want it to happen to every idiot leftist on this board.

Not very Christ-like, there, trolly,

I'm not Christian.

no suprise, since based on your posts you are a bad hombre.

Some people need to experience what they do to others in order to fully get the impact of their behavior.

weak stream, bro.

And yet, true.
-DP

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Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh was the republican hack for years, now he wants to be a boy scout, playing the "I don't know that woman" game?

Why god is laughing at Brett Kavanaugh

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/09/17/kavanaugh-supreme-court-ford-sexual-assault-219983

Democratic motive on full display in that article.

Craziest line of that piece:

"...Neil Gorsuch—nominated by another president who took office under exotic circumstances after losing the popular vote—is not burdened by the unfairness of it all."

OMG. "Exotic circumstances?" Like winning the electoral college? Just stop.

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"Exotic circumstances"!! That's a great one. Liberals, you are nothing if not endlessly entertaining.

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Anonymous wrote:She didn't even tell his name to the therapist.

This story just does not ring true.

Would you believe it if there were pics? No, I didn't think so. Because you think women are dirt.

Also why you're so eager to confirm a man hell-bent on repealing women's reproductive rights.

You saw the Franken photos and still don't believe it.

Because I can see shadows. Can you?

I wonder if the number of victims will exceed your personal threshold for trashing victims, or if 20 could come out including one of the girls he coaches and you guys will still smear them. There really seems to be no bottom.

No one’s saying to string him up. We’re saying investigate it and if he’s guilty, he doesn’t deserve a place on the court.

DP. Actually, that's exactly what you're saying and exactly what you'd do, were it left up to you (which thankfully, it's not). You'd love to see this guy stoned in a public square. It's really unbelievable.

I can’t help that you’re willfully misreading through your partisan goggles. That’s on you. Bring on the investigation.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What does this have to do with anything? His wife and daughters aren't accused of anything.

You are a horrible and disgusting person. I certainly hope no one accuses any of your loved ones of anything; especially with zero evidence. Just their word.
-DP

You're a good person. I want it to happen to every idiot leftist on this board.

Not very Christ-like, there, trolly,

I'm not Christian.

no suprise, since based on your posts you are a bad hombre.

Some people need to experience what they do to others in order to fully get the impact of their behavior.

weak stream, bro.

And yet, true.
-DP

Fake news,bro.

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The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.

And his girls basketball team. If that were my daughter, I would be flipping my lid right now.

Of course you would. Because how dare a man with an unblemished record treat his daughters' basketball teammates to Supreme Court confirmation hearing! But no, you - you'd be hysterical with outrage.

But record is far from unblemished. Others have pointed out some of his misogynistic emails, and dogged defense of Kosinski. And that weird debt. And all the lies told under oath. And the thousands of pages of relevant documents that have been concealed. Roberts, Alito, and Gorusch didn’t have any of these issues.

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I could say exactly the same thing about those of you jumping on the bandwagon to condemn a man who has not been charged with any crime, nor found guilty of any assault. In your eyes, he was guilty the minute you read Ford's allegation. If I were ever accused of a crime, I'd be scared to death to have you liberals on my jury. Guilty until proven innocent, especially if one is a conservative male. That's the liberal way!

I am not assuming he is guilty - let Ford testify and the facts shake out. But she is a credible person and her allegations deserve to be examined. Also, I’m not politically a liberal, but even if I was, it’s sad that is where your mind goes.

It's entirely reasonable for my mind to go "there" after reading the nutty and nuttier posts by liberals on this forum who probably won't rest until Kavanaugh is castrated and committed to an asylum. And I'm an independent, btw. Traveling ever further to the right by the day.

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Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) feelings of jealousy and hatred of men are alive and well by many on this thread and B) victims of sexual assault accusations (not convictions) are incredibly brave to try to defend themselves against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this man (Kavanaugh) and attempted to discredit and convict him via one woman's accusations of attempted rape and suffocation after 30+ years is really gross.

So in your mind, women (and men) who defend the accuser’s right to be heard and not summarily dismissed and/or savaged and discredited equates to people who are jealous and hate men?

Okie dokie.

NOPE. Not what I said. I'm saying that I don't think the accused should be "savaged and discredited" either. And, yes, there have been a lot of DCUM posts on Kavanaugh threads that describe men--and Kavanaugh, in particular-- in an incredibly vile and negative way.

I've got no sympathy for Kavanaugh. He is a perpetrator of the politics of personal destruction. Karma is a bitch.

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The witness who couldn’t remember conversations from last month suddenly remembers a party he “didn’t attend”

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Anonymous wrote:Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) misogyny is alive and well in this country and B) victims of sexual assault are incredibly brave to speak out against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this woman and attempted to discredit her is really gross.

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Reading through some of these posts and reminded that A) feelings of jealousy and hatred of men are alive and well by many on this thread and B) victims of sexual assault accusations (not convictions) are incredibly brave to try to defend themselves against their attackers. The way some of the PPs have attacked this man (Kavanaugh) and attempted to discredit and convict him via one woman's accusations of attempted rape and suffocation after 30+ years is really gross.

THIS.