How common is a math or reading MAP score at the 99th percentile in this area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it easy to grow when your MAP score is high (maybe around like 260)?

Why are you asking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a student, when I was in 5th grade, I got 267(math). I did work hard. I need to know if it is a good score because no one will talk about them with me. Any suggestions?

You sound either slow, lack common sense, or are a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Likely to be admitted to a gifted program? Or just like everyone else so fine in general ed?

Gifted programs are lottery these days of the top 15% local norms. So if you're in the top 5% at a low farm school, you would be in the lottery pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Likely to be admitted to a gifted program? Or just like everyone else so fine in general ed?

Gifted programs are lottery these days of the top 15% local norms. So if you're in the top 5% at a low farm school, you would be in the lottery pool.

Umm, the top 15% at each grouping of schools they use for norming would be part of the lottery pool (assuming they meet the other criteria). Isn’t that what local norming means???
Norming the scores based on a local group? MCPS has said they norm based on FARMS rate… and has been consistent with 85 th percentile- so it’s the top 15% of each group, not 5% of one group, and a different percentage of another group. The big question is how many groups are there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It depends on where in MCPS. W clusters, probably not that uncommon. I think MCPS publishes PARCC scores by each schools. You can get a sense of what cluster/schools would have a high % of students with 99% MAP scores.

We've got plenty of 99% MAP scores in the BCC cluster and other parts of Maryland too.

Same.

No one from west Bethesda gets an into ti G&T/ CES now that they apply the “cohort rule”. If there are too many 99% people you “don’t need CES and should stay with your cohort at home school.”

CES is only for URMs that score above the masses as the badly performing cohort schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends on where in MCPS. W clusters, probably not that uncommon. I think MCPS publishes PARCC scores by each schools. You can get a sense of what cluster/schools would have a high % of students with 99% MAP scores.

We've got plenty of 99% MAP scores in the BCC cluster and other parts of Maryland too.

Same.

No one from west Bethesda gets an into ti G&T/ CES now that they apply the “cohort rule”. If there are too many 99% people you “don’t need CES and should stay with your cohort at home school.”

CES is only for URMs that score above the masses as the badly performing cohort schools.

~99.9%ilers at schools like that get into CES. (I don't know the actual number.)

[Anonymous]

Can't speak to the current situation, but until a few years ago the magnet kids were 99% a few grades up. 99% for the current grade is very common.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Likely to be admitted to a gifted program? Or just like everyone else so fine in general ed?

Gifted programs are lottery these days of the top 15% local norms. So if you're in the top 5% at a low farm school, you would be in the lottery pool.

Umm, the top 15% at each grouping of schools they use for norming would be part of the lottery pool (assuming they meet the other criteria). Isn’t that what local norming means???
Norming the scores based on a local group? MCPS has said they norm based on FARMS rate… and has been consistent with 85 th percentile- so it’s the top 15% of each group, not 5% of one group, and a different percentage of another group. The big question is how many groups are there?

This information is publicly available - it may be hard to find, but it was posted on the MCPS GEC (Gifted Ed committee) Facebook page. There is a list of all the schools at each FARMS rate tier (I think there are four....but don't quote me) and data showing what locally-normed percentile score was used at each tier. As I recall the cut-off for the lowest-FARMS rate schools was somewhere around 93rd or 94th percentile. So it's a bit more than top 5%. Also, it may be slightly different for math and humanities; it's been a while since I looked at it. The published info is for the 2021-22 school year; I don't believe we have this year's data yet. But it doesn't really change from year to year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It depends on where in MCPS. W clusters, probably not that uncommon. I think MCPS publishes PARCC scores by each schools. You can get a sense of what cluster/schools would have a high % of students with 99% MAP scores.

We've got plenty of 99% MAP scores in the BCC cluster and other parts of Maryland too.

Same.

No one from west Bethesda gets an into ti G&T/ CES now that they apply the “cohort rule”. If there are too many 99% people you “don’t need CES and should stay with your cohort at home school.”

CES is only for URMs that score above the masses as the badly performing cohort schools.

~99.9%ilers at schools like that get into CES. (I don't know the actual number.)

No, 99.9%ilers get identified for enrichment and placed in the CES lottery pool, but actual CES placement is by random selection from the pool. They are no different from 95%ilers. Note that local programs are different; I'm speaking only of the regional programs.

The only difference between Bethesda and higher-FARMS rate schools is that a higher percentile cut-off is used to place students in the "identified for enrichment" category.

Also, I don't want to really anyone's mind, but not all the schools in the lowest FARMS rate tier are in western Montgomery County!

[Anonymous]

Is 210 high in 2nd grade?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Likely to be admitted to a gifted program? Or just like everyone else so fine in general ed?

Gifted programs are lottery these days of the top 15% local norms. So if you're in the top 5% at a low farm school, you would be in the lottery pool.

Umm, the top 15% at each grouping of schools they use for norming would be part of the lottery pool (assuming they meet the other criteria). Isn’t that what local norming means???
Norming the scores based on a local group? MCPS has said they norm based on FARMS rate… and has been consistent with 85 th percentile- so it’s the top 15% of each group, not 5% of one group, and a different percentage of another group. The big question is how many groups are there?

Yes, the MCPTA folks posted the actual values on FB. It's something like the top 5% at a low farm equates to top 15% locally normed. They got this from a FOIRA and it's all public.

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Anonymous wrote:Is 210 high in 2nd grade?

look it up https://sites.google.com/view/nweapercentilecalculator

[Anonymous]

I teach in a different area and we get really excited to see a kid score in the 90th percentile and up. We typically see scores between 2%-40%. There's always a handful that score 50-70%. It's really rare to see anyone in the 90's. At least in my middle income school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I teach in a different area and we get really excited to see a kid score in the 90th percentile and up. We typically see scores between 2%-40%. There's always a handful that score 50-70%. It's really rare to see anyone in the 90's. At least in my middle income school.

In MCPS, scores for some areas/kids tend to go on the higher end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is 210 high in 2nd grade?

You can Google the percentile but not really. I recall my kid having 237 in Math in 2nd grade and that was pretty high.